23 Dec 2009

Gameday: Raptors vs Pistons – Nov. 23/09

It’s been a minute since the last Raptors game. With five weeks of back-to-backs in a row (2-3 on the 1st night and 1-4 on the second night) and the toughest part of our schedule behind us (the Western road swing and 16 road games overall) the Raptors still have a chance to close the gap to .500 by the end of 2009 with games against the Pistons (tonight and Sunday) and Charlotte. It wont be easy, but if there is some effort and consistency, this team can get to 15-18 heading into the New Year.

The Raptors currently have the 7th seed, gotta love the East right? Better yet, the Pistons have lost 5 in a row and are close to free-fall status, but sit half a game out of 8th (.407 seems good enough to get you into the playoffs).

The Raptors head into Auburn Hills to face the Pistons on the first night of a home-and-home. This Pistons team is on the same level as the Raptors: middle of the pack/can fall anywhere form 5th to 10th in the East depending on how they battle on a game by game basis. They are free-falling a bit, half in part to a tough road schedule they just came off, and the other half due to some nagging injuries to important players (Prince/Hamilton have both played only 3 games this season, Gordon’s been injured and almost everyone else is listed day-to-day).

Coming off a loss to Charlotte last night means the Pistons will have to come out of the gates with their guns blazing if they hope to have any chance of taking this one. Ben Gordon is key tonight, if he is injured again, finding that instant offense will get challenging considering Hamilton will probably sit too. If you remember the last game, when Wright checked in to cover Gordon, the Pistons struggled long enough for the Raptors to take full control of the game.

Detroits injury situation will dictate how much burn Wright gets. The guy’s been in the doghouse, but he plays solid defense and was the only reason Ben Gordon didn’t score more then he did last time. Both Gordon and Hamilton thrive on taking their man off screens and creating great scoring opportunities. I just don’t trust DeRozan/Weems/Belinelli to play the type of defense necessary to shut them down, I’m sorry. I know there is a huge love-fest going on for Weems now, but the guy is a 9th man off the bench kind of player, can’t expect too much from him.

I hate to say it, but with Calderon out, it seems as though the defense at the point guard spot has improved. Jack is playing at the same level, but Banks was right, he is a game changer on defense, lol. Ok, he’s no Artest, but he’s better then Calderon which means that Stuckey, and especially Bynum, wont be running as rampant as they were the last time out. Bynum especially makes me nervous with his speed and dribble penetration, Stuckey does a pretty good job of that too, but Bynum comes off the bench which makes that attack constant on the Raptors defense. He lit the Raptors up the last time, and we had no answer for him.

There isn’t much standing in the way of Bosh and Bargnani to both have big nights again. Villanueva is great, but he givs up as much as he takes and Ben Wallace only brings rebounding and some defense to the table (the Pistons are effectively short-handed on offense with Big Ben on the court).

The game will probably be ugly, but it is very winnable for the Raptors. The Pistons are on the second night of a back-to-back, injury ridden and in the midst of a 5 game losing streak. You really couldn’t set the stage any better. Not much of a leap here, but expect a win tonight. The Pistons don’t match-up well against us at all when they are healthy, much less when they are mangled.

Little did you know that today is Canada Basketball Day. Join a bunch of ball-loving folk for some pick-up action at Hoop Dome around 1:30PM or so, and then head over to SCC for Raptor Fan Fridays.

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  1. I agree with your post. The pistons are coming off a back-2-back and are missing their best players. This better be a W for the Raps.
    I would like to see Wright get some burn though and get out of the doghouse for some minutes tonight.

  2. RAPMAN says:

    It is funny that whenever we are too over confident, we lose… I have said that many times over and over, DONT JINX IT!

  3. Buddahfan says:

    My sense is that in watching the Pistons Jarebko could have big night. He is long and tenacious around the hoop with some very good moves. His one problem is that he is not that great a finisher around basket.

    However, I look for him to have a big night anyone unless the Raptors concentrate on blocking him out.

    When Atkins starts at the PG the Pistons offense is terrible. If Gordon and Hamilton play even if they don’t start expect to see Stuckey back at the PG and not at the #2 where he has been playing when Gordon and Hamilton are out.

    I think that without both Gordon and Hamilton the Raptors should put them away pretty easily. With on or both of them it will be tougher game.

    I am looking for Rasho to get some serious burn tonight for a number of reasons.

  4. anon. says:

    Also, keep in mind that Charlie V is dealing with plantar fasciitis right now, that limited him to 2/8 last night and is getting worse so Bosh NEEDS to dominate that match up.

    Even with Ben Wallace, the Raps can live in the paint tonight and if they get him in foul trouble, no one else on that team can contain the bigs down low.

    • Raps Fan says:

      I am expecting a very big night from Bosh. With CV31 in pain, 30/15 should be doable…just saying.

    • Buddahfan says:

      Actually Brown does a pretty good job defending the low post. He is also big and strong enough to back down all the Raptors except for maybe Rasho and Evans who unfortunately won’t be playing tonight or probably until January.

      Brown has trouble finishing and making his free throws but he get back you down and if he gets close enough has a very good chance of scoring.

      I expect to see a lot of Brown tonight hence the minutes for Rasho.

      • Raps Fan says:

        Good call. I am not worried about Brown getting post position at all though. He does a bit of this and that, but Marcus Banks is more productive in the paint then he is.

  5. TongueInCheek says:

    Quick point: Raptors are not 0-5 on second night of back to backs.
    They won Dec 4th in Washington(109-107) and then the next night, Dec 5th, in Chicago ( when they crushed them 110-78).
    It doesn’t change the point of the article, but thought we should give the raps their due for sweeping one of these sets (both on the road no less)!

  6. MC-Brad says:

    Wheres the podcast? I am still on Monday cause I havent had my fix yet

  7. Hardcore Raps says:

    Rapsfan, you really don’t seem to like those hustle guys eh? Weems, Bonner, JYD, Keon Clark, Pops last year…. Is it kind of like some people out there that are leaf haters simple because everyone else is a leafs fans sort of deal?

    Weems isn’t a Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan, but he has been very solid and reliable as of late, shooting a good %, solid on D, running the floor like nobody else on the team, and has had a fantastic chemistry with DD and Jack. I don’t think I would call him a 9th man…. if it wasn’t for Amir’s hustle and play lately I’d be thinking he would be the first guy off the bench.

    Although I will say when few others are putting in the extra effort, it really makes those that are stand out.

    • Raps Fan says:

      I have no problem with hustle guys, JYD and Keon Clark are some of my favourite Raptor players ever. I have a problem when it comes to calling Weems the answer at the wing. The guy can only play well in limited minutes, which fine, but giving him more minutes at the wing because we have no else could be a problem.

      • Buddahfan says:

        I think that the Young Guns can be effective for 5 – 10 spurts per half. Now that this group is developing into a positive force, it remains to be seen if it will continue, it might make more sense to have DeRozan come off of the bench with them so he can be fresher when the Young Guns are on the court.

        The problem is that the Raptors don’t really have anyone else that they can start at SG that can deliver on a consistent basis. I would be very very hesitant about starting Belinelli at this point at the SG and Wright would be even worse.

        Other than the Raptors inconsistent defense I think that their lack of production at the SG position is their biggest weakness.

        DeRozan’s game will continue to improve but I think it will take a couple of years before he can become a real consistent outside threat. I think he will eventually become one but eventually doesn’t solve the problem this year.

        • Buddahfan says:

          I did not mean to suggest that DeRozan can at this time deliver on a consistent basis. The Raptors don’t have any SG that they can rely on to do what a SG is supposed to do and that is put up big numbers on offense.

  8. Don says:

    15-18? If they win tonight, they might be looking at 16-17 heading into 2010

    • Raps Fan says:

      They play Detroit again on Sunday, expecting two wins in a home-and-home against a team that is in the same ballpark as you is not reasonable. They do have a chance at 16-17 though, and it should be the goal. We have a tough stretch of games in the new year to deal with.

  9. RaptorCowboy says:

    Well, I for one like the optimism. That being said, the Raptors had better win all three of these coming up, because they start the new year with a nasty first five games: @Boston, San Antonio, @Orlando, @Philly (I’m guessing we take this one), then Boston again.

    Sprinkle in Dallas, @Cleveland, and the Lakers and we have the makings of a renewed “Where is Bosh going?” campaign.

    I don’t realistically see us hitting .500 in January unless we win all the games we “should/could” win AND steal a couple. Here’s hoping though!

  10. Josh says:

    I know CV is hurtin but he always brings some fire to Raps games. Even if all he’s doing is launching 3’s he is a Raptors Killer. The offence is there between him, JJ and Stuckey. I’m kinda hoping they try and get Gordon and Rip into the game as rust and conditioning combined with taking minutes away from healthier “in the flow” guys could disrupt the Pistons enough to cover Toronto’s azz.

    Of course having said that RIP and BG will now not only play but combine for 60+points and a patented BG turnaround fade away buzzer beater for the dub.

  11. PM says:

    Tonight might be a good night for Belli to get going- hopefully he can get his stroke back, he shoots a mean PUNJABIIII!!!!! when his game is on (sorry, had to do it…)

  12. anon. says:

    Just another note-

    On the pistons 5 game losing streak, they’re only averaging 87.6 ppg and in their last 10 games (which included a 5 game win streak that preceded this losing streak), the pistons only scored 100+ in 3 games. Hopefully the Raps can limit their scoring again and make it 11-0 when keeping their opponents under 100 ppg.

  13. brothersteve says:

    Pistons could contain Bosh, Bargs, & Turk last time – There is no reason to believe they’ll do any better now.

    Pistons were only in the last game because of their guard play – If Gordon and Hamilton are out – Who’s going to carry the Pistons?

  14. JJTO says:

    If the raps come out and run the floor and go for the jugular this should be fairly easy. Hoping by the end of the night the piston’s will be the pissed-on’s.

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