Team motto: All for none | Toronto Sun
Jarrett Jack said his first concern was to attend to his fallen teammate.
"My first priority is gong to see if he's all right," Jack said. "After I did that I saw Hedo (Turkoglu) go up there (towards the Celtics) by himself, so I ran up there as well. I think we all have each others backs. I think the majority of us more or less crowded around Chris just to make sure he was cool and just all right."
Raptors head coach Jay Triano said he wasn't impressed by Pierce's actions.
"I just don't think that's very sportsmanlike," Triano said. "Great play 0but I don't think you need to stand there and taunt afterwards."
Raps defence disappears | Toronto Sun
Asked about the Celtics' 68 points in the paint, six shy of the season high set two nights earlier in Charlotte, Bosh questioned his team's collective will.
"That's just effort," he said. "Pretty much every night they are just getting into the paint at will and we can't have that. We just have to help each other out, close that paint off.
"You have to challenge a team to make all jump shots. That's what we talk about and we have to stick to that game plan, or rather not stick to it but just do it first and then maybe it will work."
Triano said the Raptors problems in the paint last night were more a matter of timing than any perceived lack of effort.
"We played them after they caught the ball instead of before they caught the ball," he said. "And their starting bigs didn't miss a shot.
"Both guys (Kendrick Perkins and Kevin Garnett) were perfect and we tried to come and double team, and they found another guy."
Raptors head coach Jay Triano reached the 82-game mark in his NBA head coaching career last night. With the loss, Triano's mark is 33-49. Oddly enough, Sam Mitchell and Kevin O'Neill both had records of 33-49 in their first 82 games with the team.
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Not sure exactly who he’s talking about because he wouldn’t names with his public criticism – if I had a guess, judging by the story and who spoke how, he was taking aim at DeRozan – and maybe it actually worked.
The game turned out bad – although losing to Boston at home is a rather predictable result – but the Raptors did play with far more verve and energy in the opening half than they had in Charlotte.
Wright’s seems to have become some of the conscience of this team and it’s good that someone’s speaking up. Now, if he was just a tad more productive in the actual playing of the game department, I bet everyone would be a little bit happier.
Feschuk: Raptors bow down meekly to Celtics 116-103 – thestar.com
"They changed the way the game was played in the second half. They didn't let us catch the ball. They took us out of all our sets. They beat us. They took the game from us," said Wright. "There's no other way to say it – we just got punked. We've got a lot of good players on this team but we're going to have to come together or teams are just going to continue to run us over like this. It's not going to get any easier. We all have to look ourselves in the mirror and take that individual challenge."
Excuse Bosh, who has heard this vow of valiance before, if he sighed at the post-game line of questioning.
"I'm tired of talking about toughness," he said. "We talk about it too much. We talk about everything too much. We've got to stop talking about it and just do it."
Raptors can’t keep pace with Celtics – National Post
"Just us talking to the team captains, going to them and me telling them, 'Hey, you've got guys in here eating popcorn and joking around before the game, and we go out there and lose by 40,'" swingman Antoine Wright said before the game. "It's a direct result of what's going on before the game, guys not coming in with the right mindframe.
"Chris is not that type of guy to directly say anything," Wright added of Bosh. "He talked to the right guys, and the message has been sent."
Raptors vs. Celtics – NBA Videos and Highlights
Celtics Slam Raptors, 116-103 – ESPN Video – ESPN
Ray Allen scored 20 points, Paul Pierce and Kendrick Perkins had 18 apiece, and the Boston Celtics beat the Toronto Raptors, 116-103
Was That Defense I Just Saw? – RedsArmy.com
Pierce got hit with a technical foul for taunting after the dunk. The Toronto coaching staff got all worked up – either because the refs didn't call an offensive foul on Pierce for pushing off with his left arm or they were pissed at Pierce for taunting an injured player. Pierce reacted so quickly, I doubt he was aware Bosh was injured. However, be prepared for some criticism.
Video-Paul Pierce Dunk On Chris Bosh – YouTube | NBA | Boston Celtics | Toronto Raptors
Paul Pierce threw down one of the better dunks you'll see this year last night against the Toronto Raptors, absolutely crushing Chris Bosh's face with a tomahawk jam. However, in what is becoming all too normal for the Celtics, he also acted like a huge jackass.
See, as Pierce went up for the jam, he kneed Bosh in the nuts, who crumpled to the ground. The knee was unintentional, of course, but Pierce staring down a writhing Bosh, was not. Unfortunately, no Raptors player decided to level Pierce for doing that. Makes me think Bosh probably won't want to remain a Raptor with teammates like that when 2010 rolls around.
The dunk heard ’round the NBA – EagleTribune.com
It was a moment that, no doubt, will not only be a fixture on Celtics highlight reels for years to come, but will be played endlessly throughout the NBA.
It will be talked about in any and every office in America like the results of American Idol, and repeated — attempted anyway — on basketball courts across the country.
If anyone still used video cassettes, the tape would be in danger of breaking.
It was a "Do you remember where" moment.
"Do you remember were you were for Paul Pierce's dunk?"
Taking advantage of Toronto's inability to defend the interior, Perkins went a perfect 8-for-8 to score a season-high 18 points off both assisted dunks and post-ups, allowing Toronto center Andrea Bargnani just seven points in the process.
"We played them after they caught the ball instead of before they caught the ball," Raptors coach Jay Triano said.
"Doc said this needed to be a real power game," Perkins said. "I thought, go attack early. The only negative about this game is that we didn't really get any stops, it wasn't the Celtics defense tonight."
Comcast SportsNet New England – Celtics Recap
Anyway, Sheed, who picked up technical foul No. 5 tonight, didn't feel Pierce did anything wrong to earn a technical.
“Paul didn’t say nothing. He just looked at him,” Wallace said. “You let the Golden Child do that, or one of the NBA without border kids (international players) do that, it’s all fine and dandy.”
He was pressed on who he was referring to as the “Golden Child.”
“Take a guess?”
Someone mentioned Cleveland’s LeBron James.
“I’m a straight shooter, now,” Wallace said. “I ain’t going to bull(beep) y’all.”
Telegram.com – Wallace Rips Refs
Wallace told referee Ed Malloy last night that Toronto’s Hedo Turkoglu flopped when Wallace was called for fouling him. Malloy then slapped Wallace with a T.
“The refs get scouting reports on us, certain players,” Wallace said. “They got to already know he’s a (darn) flopper. That’s all Turko-do do-do. That should have been a tech on him for flopping.”
Wallace said he didn’t throw his shoulder into Turkoglu or make hard contact, but Turkoglu fell to the floor and shouted.
“He acted like I shot him or something,” Wallace said. “That’s not basketball, man. That’s not defense. That’s garbage, is what it is.
“This game is watered down with all that flopping (stuff).”
Jessica Camerato | The Three-Pointer: Classic Sheed, In More Ways Than One
Bosh fell to the ground following the jam and Pierce was given a technical for taunting. Doc Rivers disagreed with the call and was also hit with a tech. After the game Bosh offered his perspective of the incident.
“I got kneed in my pelvic region,” he said. “I couldn't tell what was going on. I was looking at the ground pretty much.”
Wallace, however, had a different point of view.
“Oh somebody should have got some tissue to wipe Paul's butt because, you know, if you all get the meaning of that,” he said. “But it was nasty and I told him a couple of minutes ago, I said I didn't see any of the other games tonight but so far that's No. 1 for the week, probably for the month. It was vicious.”
Toronto Raptors vs. Boston Celtics – Recap – November 27, 2009 – ESPN
"We scored the first couple of baskets and then we were startled a little bit offensively ," Raptors coach Jay Triano said. "And their starting bigs didn't miss a shot. Both guys were perfect."
Chris Bosh had 20 points and 13 rebounds, Hedo Turkoglu also scored 20 points and reserve Jarrett Jack added 18 for Toronto. The Raptors have lost six of their last eight games, including a 116-81 loss to Charlotte on Wednesday night that was the worst in franchise history.
Celtics wear down Raptors – The Boston Globe
Turkoglu’s 3-pointer with 1:13 remaining gave Toronto a 55-54 halftime lead. Then, Turkoglu’s steal and dunk made it 61-57 1:22 into the second half.
The Celtics then made their defensive stand, as they went on a 15-1 run over a 5:32 span. Marquis Daniels’s layup off a Rajon Rondo assist capped a 25-4 run and gave the hosts an 82-65 advantage with 1:25 left in the quarter.
Inconsistent Celtics get bad Rap despite victory – BostonHerald.com
Pierce’s dunk over Bosh was simply a celebratory moment after the real work was done.
Celtics lack KO punch – The Boston Globe
Last night was a prime example of how difficult a 13-point victory can be. The Celtics played little defense in the first half, allowing Toronto to shoot nearly 67 percent in taking a 55-54 lead. Boston began by hitting 12 of its first 13 shots but it meant nothing because Toronto countered with dribble penetration and 3-pointers.
Boston Massacre « That’s what I’m saying, guy…
Calderon had nine points, four assists and three turnovers and Bargnani had seven points and four boards, negating strong efforts from Chris Bosh and Hedo Turkoglu, who each had 20 in the loss. After starting hot, Turkoglu didn’t help his cause by picking up his fourth foul of the night early in the third quarter, in which Toronto was outscored 33-17 and officially put to bed. In the past three games, the Raptors have been manhandled 105-64 in the third.
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Excellent point about the Raptors lack of fibre by Captain Jack Armstrong after Chris Bosh got punked by Paul Pierce Friday night. The Celts are cocky, but personally I don’t think the facial was an intentionally dirty play – knees collide sometimes, but Jack adroitly pointing out that the only rallying Raptor was Jay Triano – who’s backing of his team has never been questioned. Dirty or not, T’s or not, plays like that need to become a rallying point.
Raptors Game Recap – The FAN 590 Toronto
THE FAN presents highlights (courtesy Paul Jones) and the recap (courtesy Eric Smith) of a 116-103 Boston Celtics' win over the Toronto Raptors.
Chris Bosh – The FAN 590 Toronto
The four-time All-Star sits down with Jonesy for a 1-on-1 interview. Bosh talks about how the team is preparing to face the Boston Celtics after a disappointing effort against the Charlotte Bobcats on Wednesday night. He also talks about the difficulty of being on the road during Thanksgiving.
Raptors must show PRIDE – Hoop Heads North
After the game's conclusion, during ESPN's telecast of the Thunder/Bucks game, ESPN likened the Paul Pierce dunk on Chris Bosh (I believe it could have easily been called an offensive foul) to Deebo punking Red in the movie 'Friday'. When the highlight showed Pierce flexing his right arm while standing over a fallen Bosh, the in-studio ESPN host quotes one of the movie's more popular lines when Red exclaims: "My grandmama gave me that chain!". To me that just said it all. Seriously. The Raptors were called out on international televison by the 'worldwide leader in sports' as being punked and bullied!
Courtside – Antoine Wright calls out Toronto Raptor teammates
Now Friday night, Paul Pierce disrespected Chris Bosh by not only dunking severely on his head, but also by kneeing him where no man likes to be kneed, and then by staring him down.
Shockingly, no Raptor responded. Just coach Jay Triano. Credit Triano, showing good Canadian backbone, for letting Doc Rivers and the Celtics Pierce was acting like a bush league clown.
But that's the Celtics. Love them, and Celtics fans do despite their arrogance, because they get it done – or hate them, as most other NBA fans do because they are consistently classless.
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I am not a guy who likes to see a player get injured and … But it is so sad that Raptors did not knock Pierce’s ASS to injured list for a week or two. So Sad.
Unfortunately the ONLY thing Triano did right last night was his reaction to PP.
We better beat the Suns at home.. we got so close to beating them away… we gotta win this…
PHOENIX IS COMING IN TO SPANK US, AND SHOW US HOW THIS SO CALLED HIGH OFFENSE IS SUPPOSE TO BE PLAYED. CALDERON WILL GET BURNT ALL DAY TODAY. BARGNANI WILL BOUNCE BACK A BIT, BUT AGAIN NO DEFENCE EQUALS NO WINS!!
From hoopshype:
DARKO … COME TO TORONTO … WE NEED YOU …!!!!
a quote to take things into context:
http://busybeingfabulous.typepad.com/busy_being_fabulous/2009/10/quote-of-the-day-6.html
Alt Raps, Arse … if you are going to redesign the forum please consider eliminating the adolescent “like” button and shifting the “Reply” button in it’s place … and that should do it … thanks.
Thanks for the input. I actually agree.
There you go, don’t say we don’t listen.
I don’t know Amare is a great player and a tough player. He has been critical of Bosh in the past so now he will look to impose him will on Sunday.
Remember, Amare is the starting PF on his team in the tough West and can put up points but also his teams are winners. He’s a flat out better player then Bosh but people will never give him credit.
Amare is as good as Steve Nash wants him to be.
Yeah, because it’s all Steve Nash Amare has no talent. I guess New Orleans would win championships if only Chris Paul was on that team setting up his teammates.
we have all seen the Suns without Steve Nash… they are not the same team.
Not that Amare is a bad player…. but Steve Nash makes those guys play abover their level. Remember Marion?…. need I say more….
actually as sarcastic as you want to make that sound, its pretty correct. yes, new orleans would not win a championship without Chris Paul just as Phoenix would never win one without Nash. Nash and Chris Paul could use the help but Amare and David west would be stranded without either respective player. So, as much as you want to salivate over Amare’s dunks, his game play does not hold much when compared to a Bosh. At least Bosh has the common grace not to run his mouth off. Really though, thanks for the input (Sarcasm).
your right. but remember, as good as Nash is for Phoenix they still haven’t won anything with him either. checkmate
Bosh is better defensively then Amare. Offensively, Bosh slows down the offense by holding onto the ball too long. Amare on the other hand plays in the offensive flow and does not need for others to clear out near the basket to be successful.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=291127030
The Toronto Raptors:
“Where giving bad teams the confidence to beat good teams happens.”
(Although, I do think Charlotte is a sleeper in the East with Jackson)
Wow … nice changes to the comments section.
Those large purple boxes make it much easier to see which comments you have and haven’t read before.
Excellent changes, much improved.
Second the comment
trade: Bargnani, Calderon, Turk, and draft consideration to New Orleans
for: Chris Paul and Okafor
Addditionals: throw in Banks and Patrick O’B for someome in return or waive them and sign A.I. Also pick up Gay in the off season!?
Great trade for T-dot, why would NO do this?
Indeed, you get rid of 3 bad contracts (well, bargs arguably so), take one bad one in return, and get cp3? At least make a reasonable offer.
How is is bargnani’s contract bad. He is being paid 6.5 million this year. When his new contract kicks in he will get 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 million respectively.
Statistically in every category (50% FG, 40%+ 3-pt, 6.4 rb, 1.0 blks,90% FT) he has improved including rebounding (he is a pathetic rebounder but the numbers have improved including both offensive and defensive rebounds). He can score from any part of the floor and spread the defense.
Another thing to note is that Barg did not play centre when he played in Italy. When he came to the raptors, he was used as a small forward with Smitch yanking him at will and playing time was not given to him to develop. After two years of chaotic development, he then played on the second unit as centre subbing in for Jermaine O’Neal. It was not until the middle of last season that he played as centre for the starting unit. He has not played a lot of time at this position.
Barg will never be a great defender or rebounder. He lacks the instinct to be effective defensively as a centre. But it does not mean that he cannot learn how to play positional defense and improve his rebounding and help defense. Bynum (coached by kareem Abdul Jabbar) and many centres in the league have had special coaches to teach them to excel at their position. The raptors to date have not hired any coach to help him develop at the centre position. Maybe it is time they do. This small investment may pay off for both Barg and the raptors long term.
I suggested something similar in an earlier comment. However it is very difficult to trade a PPP player (Bargnani) and a BYC player (Paul), and certainly both at once is next to impossible. The Raps might be able to work out separate trades involving those players, like Bargs and filler for Okafor and Caldy and filler for CP3.
The Hornets might do it because CP3 might get tired of their incompetence, mismanagement and the lack of great players to run with and demand a trade. If the Raps were able to keep Turkoglu and some of the bench depth, the Raps would instantly be a contender, with all of their defensive and rebounding woes fixed.
I think CP3 might want to make sure Bosh would be there permanently too though, so I can’t see it happening until the offseason.
For those who are skeptical that CP3 would ever be traded, I point out that Garnett was, Lew Alcindor was, Charles Barkley was, and Drex was. All in similar situations — mismanaged franchises going nowhere. Barkley now says he should have demanded a trade years earlier than he did.
After the crap effort I’ve watched the last 2 games (actually the defense and effort has been crap most nights this year)… I’ll take this just to see some effort and get something for our laughing boy on the bench… A leader should never be giggling like a schoolgirl bitch on the bench when the team is getting hammered by 20 and he’s getting paid about $192,437.95 a freaking game AND he’s expecting a big raise next year
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yjlqqjc
hmmm link not working…
it was Bosh and Calderon for Biedrins and Monta Ellis, since it seems Monta is on the block at the moment. Only would have to see Bosh once a year in Toronto… cause you know he would absolutely kill us everytime he played us just like every other spurned superstar of the Raptors lol
I suggested that one too. Ellis is not as good as CP3 though, and is a shooter, not a facilitator.
MONTA ELLIS IS NICE.. ALL STAR GUARD IF HE’S IN THE EAST!!! NOT AS GOOD AS CHRIS PAUL, BUT COULD GUARD HIM BETTER THEN ANY GUARD ON THE RAPTOR ROSTER.
OCEAN says: Nov 29, 2009 at 11:41 am
“your right. but remember, as good as Nash is for Phoenix they still haven’t won anything with him either. checkmate”
Man, I am tired of people having such short memories. Steve Nash and the Phoenix Suns, in the glory days of the run and gun, with Amare, Bell, Nash, Diaw all playing to perfection were one unbelievably dirty hipcheck away from beating the Spurs. This was a series where the Spurs lost their reputation as a classy playoff team, and became the dirty Spurs. Not that the Spurs played poorly – they did not. But the Suns were right in there the whole time.
And don’t think that the Suns, although offence-based were not tough. Nash got bumped, grinded, checked, and he still played MVP caliber basketball. Bell was one of the grittiest 2-guards in the league at that time, even getting under Kobe’s skin a number of times.
Bruce Bowen kneed Nash in the groin, Bowen kicked Amare from behind, Horry thought he was playing football for a play. And what happened when Nash was hip-checked? The Suns lost two valuable players for a crucial game because they left the bench in a fury. And Horry, he got a measly two-game suspension.
If you don’t remember, look it up in google. Oh, and when Horry punched David West in the back in another game against New Orleans, when West was known to have back problems at the time, the crowd chanted ‘Horry’, thus tainting the rep of “Big (Cheap)-Shot Rob”
The Suns were a lot closer to winning than most people care to give credit for. I also happen to think that that recipe, that precise mixture of players with mismatch problems, toughness and agility will not be seen for many many years. Including this year’s version of the Suns, and this year’s Raptors.
I agree with what your saying. I’m not taking away the great play of Nash. But that’s the difference between a good team and a great team. Players stepping up, playing pshyical, fighting for position, holding, pulling, not quitting. As classy as San Antonio is as a franchise, they have some of the toughest players during there championship runs ie. Bruce Bowen. It’s not always the most talented team that wins, but the team that is willing to go out there and bust there ass, and take what they want. i guess nice guys/teams do finish last. those Raptor guys are real nice guys.