Comments on: Video: Bargnani’s effort and a question for Turk

By: shahinc

shahinc — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:53:28 +0000

Lets make a poll on here and see how many true fans rather have this video analysis with the current quality than NOT having anything at all.

By: Tim W.

Tim W. — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:29:43 +0000

Coaches aren’t fired for single games, at least not by smart GMs. And replacing one first time coach with another rarely makes any difference, unless, like the lottery, you sudden;y stumble upon Phil Jackson or Pat Riley, but even they aren’t miracle workers. They’ll still be stuck with players who are poor defenders and a front line with only one guy who can consistently rebound. I fail to see how changing coaches is going to help the core problems that face the Raptors, none of which have to do with coaching.

And sometimes the way to improve a team is not always the easiest way. Bad teams change coaches all the time, but it’s not until they get the right personnel that they improve. Larry Brown is a great coach, but without good players, Charlotte still can’t make the playoffs.

I still think patience is the best thing and while it was an awful, horrible game, it was still one game. mean, did anyone expect them to have a better record at this point in the season? Certainly not me, and I’ve always been fairly hopeful about the season.

By: 007

007 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:36:56 +0000

chuck, I made a spelling mistake, sue me. If it is whiny, I don’t see the problem, so is everything else.

By: chuck

chuck — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 18:09:25 +0000

nice spelling of genius, genious.
and way to not come across whiny or anything…that was good!

By: trizzo

trizzo — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:44:30 +0000

I think, because of his youth, most people are hoping that Andrea can improve his game for our future.

Maybe that is why they have the expectation that they have. Bosh may be gone, Jose is only going to get old.

By: poiter

poiter — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:55:28 +0000

What’s even more annoying is that just before wallace cuts, Hedo decides to move to the free throw line, where he is six feet away from any bobcat.

I don’t see how you can blame Bosh. He’s checking his man and looking at Jackson, waiting to help if he drives or box out his man for the rebound. Unless he has eyes in the back of his head, he has no way to help on that play.

By: 007

007 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:38:15 +0000

I hope the Raptors lose every f#cking game left. It’s fun listening to all you whiny f#cking bitches second guess every player, BC ,JT , MI and every coaching decision like you’re all a bunch of f#cking geniouses. If you had f#cking lives, you could watch the game, be disappointed and go on your merry f#cking way…sadly that is not the case. I bet you wish they had the dislike button again…losers!

By: Brandon

Brandon — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:13:13 +0000

That game was the kind of thing that got Sam Mitchell fired.

It’s a heck of a lot easier to fire a low-paid first-time coach than it is to change the on-court personnel.

Firing Triano and replacing him with another low-paid first-timer, or Iavaroni, who lost a lot of games in Memphis, would be a lot easier than dumping key players like Calderon and Bargs.

If Triano can’t get it done I expect that to happen.

By: OzRapFan

OzRapFan — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:27:20 +0000

Don’t insult Troy Murphy, He is a good example of a big man who plays outside who still averages over 9 rebounds per game. The sooner people realize that Bargnani is more like a Channing Frye (a good role playing centre who will never be a superstar) rather than like a Dirk Nowitzki the sooner they will stop being disappointed. Bargnani would be a great fit for a lot of teams but not the Raptors, not with the current lineup anyway.
He should be used more like Belinelli is, if his shot is on keep him playing if not sit him down.

I would say don’t trade him just yet, give Amir more of his minutes (he deserves them anyway)and maybe that will light the fire under his arse to want to put in more of an effort.

By: turnover4thbosh

turnover4thbosh — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:20:57 +0000

Well Arse, it did not take you long to crucify Barg. He plays terrible defense and because of him we lost. Thats what you want us to believe. In psychology we call it a defensive mechanism. Divert the attention from…well you know who.

What happened to our franchise player the last two games. When it becomes physical, our Bosh disappear. You should also look at your tapes again. The biggest push from Charlotte came when Amir and Bosh your two studs were playing and could not defend anyone.

Can’t wait to see the franchise stud muffin go up against Boston. LOL…LOL.

By: msmith04

msmith04 — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:01:41 +0000

Arsenalist,

The video breakdowns are great. Love them. Keep them coming.

By: Pizzaman

Pizzaman — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:01:01 +0000

I’m just not getting it. While the defensive lapses you point out in the above videos are pretty obvious I am still puzzled as to why you would single out Bargnani and Hedo. I just watched the game again to see if maybe I was blind the first time and just about every Raptor was pretty poor at the defensive end and I would say Bosh and Jose were the worst. On the offensive side the only players that had it going good were Amir and Bargs and of course like usual Bargs never saw the ball again after he finished the half with 15 points and was the only player to shoot a good percentage. He also went to the bench again with the Raps down by only nine and Bosh, Jose et al let the game completely slip away. Bosh of course tried his usual array of forced shots that have no chance but this time against a better squad didn’t get all the bs calls he usually gets so unfortunately they counted as missed shots instead of trips to the line without a missed shot stat. Jose showed the rest of the team how easy it is to turn the ball over and by then the game was over.
I get the ragging on Bargnani to play harder because he should but he’s far from the reason this team stinks. It starts with Bosh and Jose as they lead this team and they need to drive the bus, and unfortunately they are both rotten drivers. Anybody wanting to give Bosh max money is out of their minds.

By: Marc

Marc — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:48:44 +0000

Yeah… The time to start winning is now.

A win in October counts the same as a win in April.

By: Marc

Marc — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:45:04 +0000

Smitch tried.. didn’t work.

By: brothersteve

brothersteve — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:00:53 +0000

Most of the transition points came off of 13 steals mostly from Jose/Jack/Belinelli – can’t blame anyone for not getting back in time to defend those ones.

Unless you’re expecting Bargs to anticipate Jose coughing up the ball and running back to defend while Jose is going the other way!

That game was a stinker.

Bury it right beside Jay Triano’s line-up decisions on the night.

By: Dragan

Dragan — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:44:12 +0000

Not sure if he is fit to be a starter on any decent NBA team.

By: shahinc

shahinc — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:31:48 +0000

Nobody put a gun to you head and asked you to visit the site. You don’t like it, TOO Fucking Bad!!! Don’t visit here. Rest of us here value the effort that these guys are putting into this site and enjoy it.

By: yertu damkule

yertu damkule — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:18:34 +0000

read less doug smith. he preaches that mantra all season. ‘it’s only 30 games into the season…geez, give it some time.’ ‘it’s only 60 games into the season….’

By: yertu damkule

yertu damkule — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:16:46 +0000

well duh, though i think at this point, it’s not so much ‘learning’ as expanding/improving on already known/learned things. you can’t claim he needs to ‘learn’ how to box-out, since he plainly knows how to do it. he does need to improve at it, i’ll grant that, but the key – the absolute key – is developing the will to put in the work. at a certain point, all that’s learned can be thrown out the window, and it comes down to weather someone wants it enough. you can’t sit there & tell me that bargnani, right now, WANTS IT. and wanting it can’t be taught or learned, it’s something that comes from within.

By: Arsenalist

Arsenalist — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:17:35 +0000

Of course, thanks for having faith and using common sense, unlike dave9t5 who couldn’t resist passing up the chance of being a dick by stating the obvious.