Comments on: Raptors torn asunder

By: Jog

Jog — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:23:54 +0000

Um…no.

That’s what espn, yahoo, tsn, score, ten million other websites are for.

By: Jog

Jog — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:22:09 +0000

The Raps really, REALLY got bitched in this one.

Nothing less than a win against the Celtics will make amends for that pathetic beatdown.

By: Dragan

Dragan — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:03:27 +0000

“He’s a Business Man not a general manager. Make enough quick fixes every year to Jumpstart ticket sales and get the fans into a frenzy. He’s a genius at doing that. No sight, no vision.”

Good points. Aside from his first year, when we won Division title (due to crappy teams within division at the time), did you see anything to be optimistic about? Quick first round exits or no playoffs at all.

By: FAQ

FAQ — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:29:32 +0000

After enduring the Raptor debacle for 3 quarters last night, I switched over to the Heat-Magic game and watched it to the end … Mia 99 – Orl 98 … great finish !!!!

Tonight I’ll watch the Magic at the Hawks at 8 PM ET on TSN2 … which should be another good game. The Hawks are a true team with no “max money” player.

I think RR should do a recap on some of the more significant games other than the Raptors. That would really upgrade the quality of the website.

I suppose this is the difference between mindless t.h. fans and true bball aficionados …!!!

By: Dagon420

Dagon420 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:50:07 +0000

This team has too many Europeans on it. Let’s face it, we all know now that you can’t win in the NBA with a euro team. We need to trade either Calderon or bargnani or both.

By: weeeeems

weeeeems — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:41:28 +0000

This isnt about help. Bosh needs to call out his teammates Monta style.

By: Matt Nelson

Matt Nelson — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:48:30 +0000

We were just got blown out by 35 at the hands of the bobcats…

Last year Sam takes 30 in the chin @ denver and we’re calling for his execution…

35 to the bobcats is like 65 @ denver.

By: TheV@nM@n

TheV@nM@n — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:36:28 +0000

I was just using the Pippen thing as a figure of speach but you are correct, Bosh would not have made the Bulls!

By: Ghotte

Ghotte — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:34:23 +0000

How is it possible Joey thinks Pippen a tough small forward would be able to guard Bosh. Bosh would eat him up. Revisionist history aside don’t make Pippen out to be better than he was. Bosh works for all his points. Name another all-star big that has to do so much to get his points? Notice Howard averaging less than 13 points his last 5 games? Compare big men to big men.

By: Ghotte

Ghotte — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:28:24 +0000

No, we need Mark Messier. That true leader of men. Sorry, it’s not on one guy to be the leader. The Jordan’s and Kobe’s of the world are rare and even they need help. Remember the crappy Lakers of 2004/05?

By: siggian

siggian — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:12:00 +0000

Agreed. If all the current NBA players are in a draft, Bosh is going in the middle of the first round.

By: siggian

siggian — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:05:27 +0000

Hang on!

He was hardly thrown out of Phoenix. He did not see eye-to-eye with the new owner, so they agreed to part ways.

So, you think that the 47 win team of three seasons ago was a complete fluke? There wasn’t much left from that team when he got here and he threw together a team that ended up playing pretty well. Yes, it was ultimately flawed, but it still won 47 games.

Calderon and Bargnani’s contracts are not enormous by NBA terms. There are plenty of worse ones out there. Are they currently giving value for their contracts? Calderon is a definite no right now and Bargnani is a no or a maybe, depending game to game it seems. But I see Bryan being able to move either one if necessary (although what you would get back for them would be a sideways move at best).

Attendance is in the upper 1/2 or 1/3 of the league since he has been here so I don’t see where he feels the need to spike the attendance to please MLSE.

Do I think he has made mistakes? Yes, but most of the points you are making don’t fit the facts or make sense. Take a breath, think a bit, and then you can make arguments that make sense.

By: eastcoast

eastcoast — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:59:11 +0000

I’m not his biggest fan and think he’s way overrated defensively and relies too much on calls to be very effective in the crunch or playoffs. However your statement is as false today as it was four years ago.

By: Joey

Joey — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:43:27 +0000

And I said it 4 years ago, Bosh is the most overrated player in American Professional sports.

By: Boko

Boko — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:42:17 +0000

By the way, as a team, we’re 11th in Blocks Differential (YEA!), 18th in Rebound Differential, 21st in Points Differential, 24th in Assists Differential, and 28th in Steals Differential. It seems that the shorter our players are, the less they can compete in the NBA!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Joey

Joey — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:40:31 +0000

Scottie Pippen in his prime would have destroyed Bosh. Wouldn’t be a competition. Defense, offense, mentally, physically, toughness wise, Grit wise, leadership wise.

Bosh on those Bulls teams would not have seen playing time. Rodman, Harper , Horace Grant, Bill Cartwright were better players as well.

By: Matt Nelson

Matt Nelson — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:40:29 +0000

nice…Dave, you said it better than I.

By: Boko

Boko — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:24:35 +0000

Jay, when a player isn’t giving us effort on D, replace him with a player who will! It isn’t rocket-science!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Dragan

Dragan — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:17:14 +0000

Points 1 and 2 are totally legitimate. Blazers and Hawks are perfect example of point 1.

As far as the Raptors go, it is not time to blow the whole thing up yet, but the next 10 games may be perfect indicator about where this team stands.

By: j bean

j bean — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:13:23 +0000

This team is certainly not an old team. I’m still looking to the future with anticipation of better things and an evolution into a contender. If it takes a trade or two so be it but the last thing we need is to blow up the team and start with a youth movement. There is a lot of room for improvement with these players and I’m looking forward to some exciting enjoyable games. There are a lot of real b ball fans watching teams a lot worse than the Raps