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		<title>By: Watch Superman Cartoons Online &#187; Rr Ratings – Nov 4 Vs Det – Raptors Republic - Raptors Blog Espn &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-47424</link>
		<dc:creator>Watch Superman Cartoons Online &#187; Rr Ratings – Nov 4 Vs Det – Raptors Republic - Raptors Blog Espn &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John says: Nov 4, 2009 at 11:56 pm. It has nothing to do with effort as he is effectively boxing out his man, even when his rebounding numbers may not show it. Today was a reward for his hard work, bravo Andrea! &#8230;.. It&#8217;s fun when they spike it into the money seats but it&#8217;s much more valuable to block it inbounds or the ever rare but awesome “pick it outta the air ” type where the blocker just goes up and pulls it down. Reply. Edgar says: Nov 5, 2009 at 1:02 pm &#8230;Continue Reading [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John says: Nov 4, 2009 at 11:56 pm. It has nothing to do with effort as he is effectively boxing out his man, even when his rebounding numbers may not show it. Today was a reward for his hard work, bravo Andrea! &#8230;.. It&#8217;s fun when they spike it into the money seats but it&#8217;s much more valuable to block it inbounds or the ever rare but awesome “pick it outta the air ” type where the blocker just goes up and pulls it down. Reply. Edgar says: Nov 5, 2009 at 1:02 pm &#8230;Continue Reading [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 12:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what team that&#039;s attempting to be good acquires 9 new players?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what team that&#8217;s attempting to be good acquires 9 new players?</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44688</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What 5-0 team acquired 9 new players during the off-season, and has only 3 players from last season&#039;s spring training batch?  I&#039;m curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What 5-0 team acquired 9 new players during the off-season, and has only 3 players from last season&#8217;s spring training batch?  I&#8217;m curious.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 10:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m dreaming here, but I thought Jose was covering Stuckey and DeRozan/other 2s were on Ben Gordon.  And oh, Ben Gordon was destroying everyone, pretty much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m dreaming here, but I thought Jose was covering Stuckey and DeRozan/other 2s were on Ben Gordon.  And oh, Ben Gordon was destroying everyone, pretty much.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44684</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the Raptors had O&#039;Neal, who was not fully healed, and not much else.  Had O&#039;Neal been where he was before, then I think you might have an argument, but just because expectations were high and Colangelo says something does not mean the Raptors were that talented.  I think everyone can agree with that.  I remember many times during November, last season, watching as Bosh and O&#039;Neal were the only Raptors scoring or making an impact on the court.  Kapono couldn&#039;t hit even when he did shoot, Moon was not the player he was the previous season, Parker was a shadow of himself, Calderon was hurt and Bargnani was playing out of position at SF, and was playing as inconsistent as usual, anyway.  Do you really want to argue that that&#039;s a team that should have gone to the second round?  And can you honestly blame that on Bosh?  I think you stick LeBron on that team, instead of Bosh, and they barely make the playoffs.  

Had Moon played like he did the previous season, Kapono played like he did in the playoffs, Calderon not gotten hurt and Parker started the season better, then I think the Raptors very well COULD have made the playoffs, especially since they didn&#039;t end up that far out of them.

Now, once they traded for Marion and Bargnani started to play well, they played a lot better.  They had a legitimate starting five (although not much else), and won some games at the end.

And what about the season where Colangelo first came on board and made all those changes?  No one expected them to finish with 47 wins and win the Atlantic Division.  It&#039;s not always about how much talent you surround a player with, but what type of talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the Raptors had O&#8217;Neal, who was not fully healed, and not much else.  Had O&#8217;Neal been where he was before, then I think you might have an argument, but just because expectations were high and Colangelo says something does not mean the Raptors were that talented.  I think everyone can agree with that.  I remember many times during November, last season, watching as Bosh and O&#8217;Neal were the only Raptors scoring or making an impact on the court.  Kapono couldn&#8217;t hit even when he did shoot, Moon was not the player he was the previous season, Parker was a shadow of himself, Calderon was hurt and Bargnani was playing out of position at SF, and was playing as inconsistent as usual, anyway.  Do you really want to argue that that&#8217;s a team that should have gone to the second round?  And can you honestly blame that on Bosh?  I think you stick LeBron on that team, instead of Bosh, and they barely make the playoffs.  </p>
<p>Had Moon played like he did the previous season, Kapono played like he did in the playoffs, Calderon not gotten hurt and Parker started the season better, then I think the Raptors very well COULD have made the playoffs, especially since they didn&#8217;t end up that far out of them.</p>
<p>Now, once they traded for Marion and Bargnani started to play well, they played a lot better.  They had a legitimate starting five (although not much else), and won some games at the end.</p>
<p>And what about the season where Colangelo first came on board and made all those changes?  No one expected them to finish with 47 wins and win the Atlantic Division.  It&#8217;s not always about how much talent you surround a player with, but what type of talent.</p>
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		<title>By: wsg</title>
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		<dc:creator>wsg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  Absolutely.</description>
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		<title>By: verbatim</title>
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		<dc:creator>verbatim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we can fault Bosh for his play these first 4 games at all.  I see what you are seeing, and it is a pleasure to watch.  I am concerned that when we give the ball to Turk or Bosh, and the ball stays in their hands, the rest of the team just stands around.  This is not on Turk or Bosh, but on the other players and the coaches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we can fault Bosh for his play these first 4 games at all.  I see what you are seeing, and it is a pleasure to watch.  I am concerned that when we give the ball to Turk or Bosh, and the ball stays in their hands, the rest of the team just stands around.  This is not on Turk or Bosh, but on the other players and the coaches.</p>
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		<title>By: FAQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>FAQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last season, Bosh and Bargs were out of sync, and I thought that would carry over into this season ... but I was wrong.  I credit Triano or BC for convincing Bosh to share the ball more and to work on the offensive boards.

Bosh is scoring more than ever, and it&#039;s all because he&#039;s getting offensive rebound putbacks.  His extra (upper body) weight is helping him bull his way in for offensive rebounds but he is also making a supreme effort to fight for offensive rebounds and not only getting uncontested defensive rebounds.

I noticed Bosh doing these things in the first game of the season and he got 16 rebounds!  I only caught the 4th quarter of the Detroit game, but I was astounded when I saw Bosh getting the ball just inside the arc and facing the basket from about 20 feet ... a normally expected outside shot for Bosh ... but he passed it off (somewhat hesitatingly) to the wing and then ran to the basket where he got the offensive rebound and scored .. this would have never happened last season ...!!!

If you look at the individual player stats, you will see Bosh way up there on scoring and rebounds both offense and defense rebound!!  This guy is proving himself to be max money player and becoming an all-round player!!

What this has done for the Raptors is made the other players more effective, particularly Bargs, all because Bosh is quickly passing the ball for movement, and then crashing the offensive boards.  Somebody, perhaps BC or Triano told Bosh what he would have to do to be considered a max money player ... for the Raptors or some other team if he decides to leave.

Does anybody else see this as well ...???!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last season, Bosh and Bargs were out of sync, and I thought that would carry over into this season &#8230; but I was wrong.  I credit Triano or BC for convincing Bosh to share the ball more and to work on the offensive boards.</p>
<p>Bosh is scoring more than ever, and it&#8217;s all because he&#8217;s getting offensive rebound putbacks.  His extra (upper body) weight is helping him bull his way in for offensive rebounds but he is also making a supreme effort to fight for offensive rebounds and not only getting uncontested defensive rebounds.</p>
<p>I noticed Bosh doing these things in the first game of the season and he got 16 rebounds!  I only caught the 4th quarter of the Detroit game, but I was astounded when I saw Bosh getting the ball just inside the arc and facing the basket from about 20 feet &#8230; a normally expected outside shot for Bosh &#8230; but he passed it off (somewhat hesitatingly) to the wing and then ran to the basket where he got the offensive rebound and scored .. this would have never happened last season &#8230;!!!</p>
<p>If you look at the individual player stats, you will see Bosh way up there on scoring and rebounds both offense and defense rebound!!  This guy is proving himself to be max money player and becoming an all-round player!!</p>
<p>What this has done for the Raptors is made the other players more effective, particularly Bargs, all because Bosh is quickly passing the ball for movement, and then crashing the offensive boards.  Somebody, perhaps BC or Triano told Bosh what he would have to do to be considered a max money player &#8230; for the Raptors or some other team if he decides to leave.</p>
<p>Does anybody else see this as well &#8230;???!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cleveland was considered a top 3 team in the east for your information, but if thats not good enough lets look at what Bargs did last season in Boston.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0v3fUvZ0xg&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cleveland was considered a top 3 team in the east for your information, but if thats not good enough lets look at what Bargs did last season in Boston.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0v3fUvZ0xg&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0v3fUvZ0xg&amp;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kaan</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44673</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 04:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Became a Raptors fan when my man Turk got traded from Magic. One issue that bothered me last night was players wanting to do things on their own but end up missing shots. Poise and reading the defense is what this team needs. Otherwise, i am afraid well see inconsistent results thruout this season. Win feels good. I hope our gas for the next weeks&#039; games would be enough to get at least half of them in the W column. Go Raptors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Became a Raptors fan when my man Turk got traded from Magic. One issue that bothered me last night was players wanting to do things on their own but end up missing shots. Poise and reading the defense is what this team needs. Otherwise, i am afraid well see inconsistent results thruout this season. Win feels good. I hope our gas for the next weeks&#8217; games would be enough to get at least half of them in the W column. Go Raptors.</p>
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		<title>By: FLUXLAND</title>
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		<dc:creator>FLUXLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True enough, Hardcore. I&#039;m highly critical... I guess I&#039;ve just had enough of the same old same old. And I&#039;ve stopped running on hope a long time ago, although you are right...it seems there are better pieces on the team this year. I still don&#039;t believe they will we used properly or that they will gel. Some guys just don&#039;t mesh well with others, no matter how good they are individually or how good a team looks on paper. 

BC thinkers around too much, always mixing it up and I don&#039;t think that&#039;s a good long term plan.  Short term everyone gets excited and prays.. but its not a good long term plan.

As far as Jose - at the end of the day my mind cannot comprehend what this guy has been doing the entire off season. He does not look like someone who&#039;s been getting ready to play ball at a high level.  And if he needed time to rest, then why are we forcing him onto the team when he appears to be a liability on the floor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True enough, Hardcore. I&#8217;m highly critical&#8230; I guess I&#8217;ve just had enough of the same old same old. And I&#8217;ve stopped running on hope a long time ago, although you are right&#8230;it seems there are better pieces on the team this year. I still don&#8217;t believe they will we used properly or that they will gel. Some guys just don&#8217;t mesh well with others, no matter how good they are individually or how good a team looks on paper. </p>
<p>BC thinkers around too much, always mixing it up and I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a good long term plan.  Short term everyone gets excited and prays.. but its not a good long term plan.</p>
<p>As far as Jose &#8211; at the end of the day my mind cannot comprehend what this guy has been doing the entire off season. He does not look like someone who&#8217;s been getting ready to play ball at a high level.  And if he needed time to rest, then why are we forcing him onto the team when he appears to be a liability on the floor.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve X</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44659</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never been on this site before, but after reading some of the comments, this one about &quot;bonding with dad&quot; was pure gold.  I love how FLUXLAND initiates the conflict by acting like a punk and putting up the picture and you totally turn it around, burn him big time, and he quiets down because he has nothing clever to say.  Let that be a lesson, you come on here and play with fire by acting like a punk, then you&#039;re likely to get burned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been on this site before, but after reading some of the comments, this one about &#8220;bonding with dad&#8221; was pure gold.  I love how FLUXLAND initiates the conflict by acting like a punk and putting up the picture and you totally turn it around, burn him big time, and he quiets down because he has nothing clever to say.  Let that be a lesson, you come on here and play with fire by acting like a punk, then you&#8217;re likely to get burned.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44656</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really? I remember going into last season with a newly minted J.O.  I believe the mood around these quarters was second round of the playoffs - at the least.  In hindsight, yeah, we looked terrible last year.  But lets not forget what the expectations were at the actual time.  It was our most talented roster ever, in the eyes of our GM.  Not one respectable (i.e. paid) analyst working for a respectable (i.e. national) magazine picked the Raptors to do worse than the 41-41 season a year previous.  I remember reading interviews with Sam Mitchell in which he likened Bosh and J.O. to a new version of the Twin Towers - (a promise they did make good on - only more like the post-9/11 Twin Towers in New York, rather than the Duncan-Robinson combo).  

Take a look at Houston last year.  Even without McGrady, they adjust and make due.  That is one shitty roster.  Even without Yao.  Its just teams like ours that get dealt a bad hand and then start taking &quot;no&quot; for a muthafuckin&#039; answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really? I remember going into last season with a newly minted J.O.  I believe the mood around these quarters was second round of the playoffs &#8211; at the least.  In hindsight, yeah, we looked terrible last year.  But lets not forget what the expectations were at the actual time.  It was our most talented roster ever, in the eyes of our GM.  Not one respectable (i.e. paid) analyst working for a respectable (i.e. national) magazine picked the Raptors to do worse than the 41-41 season a year previous.  I remember reading interviews with Sam Mitchell in which he likened Bosh and J.O. to a new version of the Twin Towers &#8211; (a promise they did make good on &#8211; only more like the post-9/11 Twin Towers in New York, rather than the Duncan-Robinson combo).  </p>
<p>Take a look at Houston last year.  Even without McGrady, they adjust and make due.  That is one shitty roster.  Even without Yao.  Its just teams like ours that get dealt a bad hand and then start taking &#8220;no&#8221; for a muthafuckin&#8217; answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year, I don&#039;t count one team that was less talented than the Raptors last season that made the playoffs.  Miami has Wade, who&#039;s a top 5 talent, and some underrated role players.  Atlanta didn&#039;t have a top 15 player, but they were much more talented than the Raptors.  Philly also doesn&#039;t have a top 15 player, but were also deeper and more talented than the Raptors were last season.  Everyone else was clearly a better, more talented team.  

And giving the money to Bosh doesn&#039;t prevent the team from acquiring talent.  He&#039;s making $16 million this season, and the Raptors are one of the deeper, most talented teams in the East.  This year, it&#039;s not talent the Raptors are lacking.  If they aren&#039;t successful, it&#039;s the lack of defense and rebounding that will be their achilles heal.  You can blame Colangelo, but he could only do what he could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year, I don&#8217;t count one team that was less talented than the Raptors last season that made the playoffs.  Miami has Wade, who&#8217;s a top 5 talent, and some underrated role players.  Atlanta didn&#8217;t have a top 15 player, but they were much more talented than the Raptors.  Philly also doesn&#8217;t have a top 15 player, but were also deeper and more talented than the Raptors were last season.  Everyone else was clearly a better, more talented team.  </p>
<p>And giving the money to Bosh doesn&#8217;t prevent the team from acquiring talent.  He&#8217;s making $16 million this season, and the Raptors are one of the deeper, most talented teams in the East.  This year, it&#8217;s not talent the Raptors are lacking.  If they aren&#8217;t successful, it&#8217;s the lack of defense and rebounding that will be their achilles heal.  You can blame Colangelo, but he could only do what he could.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, I don&#039;t think anyone deserves that much money for playing a game for a living.  Yes, they help bring in lots of money, and should get a big piece of the pie, but $20 million for playing basketball?  That&#039;s ridiculous.  It&#039;s also ridiculous the the price they charge for tickets and the cost of the jerseys and other NBA merchandise.  Yes, people buy it all, but it doesn&#039;t make it alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, I don&#8217;t think anyone deserves that much money for playing a game for a living.  Yes, they help bring in lots of money, and should get a big piece of the pie, but $20 million for playing basketball?  That&#8217;s ridiculous.  It&#8217;s also ridiculous the the price they charge for tickets and the cost of the jerseys and other NBA merchandise.  Yes, people buy it all, but it doesn&#8217;t make it alright.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all your remarks.  Its the last sentence of your reply that gives me pause.  Somehow, even with less of a payroll and less talent and minus a &quot;Top 15&quot; player like Bosh, it seems some teams still make the playoffs.  (After all, 16 teams make it a year).  How do these guys do it?

I think in the absence of having a Lebron or a Duncan, you&#039;ve got to be strategic.  Just giving it to Bosh and hoping for the best has failed too many times in the past for my taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all your remarks.  Its the last sentence of your reply that gives me pause.  Somehow, even with less of a payroll and less talent and minus a &#8220;Top 15&#8243; player like Bosh, it seems some teams still make the playoffs.  (After all, 16 teams make it a year).  How do these guys do it?</p>
<p>I think in the absence of having a Lebron or a Duncan, you&#8217;ve got to be strategic.  Just giving it to Bosh and hoping for the best has failed too many times in the past for my taste.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44640</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea whether Bosh is good enough to be the best player or leading scorer on a Championship team, but I do know he&#039;s a better option than Bargnani is.  I know this by watching them both and I know that by crunching their numbers.  And I know the Raptors don&#039;t really have that much else to choose from.  

And it&#039;s not as if the Raptors have ever really surrounded Bosh with enough talent to see whether he can lead a team deep into the playoffs.  You can&#039;t say that the Raptors have not been successful BECAUSE Bosh has lead the team in scoring, only that Bosh has had to score so much because they have had no other option. 

Bosh&#039;s offense has been much better this season.  When the team is playing well on offense, he doesn&#039;t hold the ball or force things.  He&#039;s moves, passes the ball and scores in the flow of the game.  When Bosh does force the action, it was because the team is not scoring or playing well.  Basically, he&#039;s doing what the team&#039;s best player needs to do.  

He&#039;s not Kobe, LeBron, Wade. Duncan or Chris Paul, but the Raptors don&#039;t have players like that, and franchises can go a lifetime without ever getting guys like that.  Barring completely gutting the team and hoping John Wall falls on their lap, the Raptors have to make due with what they have.  Bosh, no matter how you look at it, is the Raptors best player and, at the very least, a top 15 player in the league (you could even say top 10, especially this season).  Until the Raptors get somebody better, they&#039;ve got Bosh, and a lot of teams don&#039;t even have a player as good as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea whether Bosh is good enough to be the best player or leading scorer on a Championship team, but I do know he&#8217;s a better option than Bargnani is.  I know this by watching them both and I know that by crunching their numbers.  And I know the Raptors don&#8217;t really have that much else to choose from.  </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not as if the Raptors have ever really surrounded Bosh with enough talent to see whether he can lead a team deep into the playoffs.  You can&#8217;t say that the Raptors have not been successful BECAUSE Bosh has lead the team in scoring, only that Bosh has had to score so much because they have had no other option. </p>
<p>Bosh&#8217;s offense has been much better this season.  When the team is playing well on offense, he doesn&#8217;t hold the ball or force things.  He&#8217;s moves, passes the ball and scores in the flow of the game.  When Bosh does force the action, it was because the team is not scoring or playing well.  Basically, he&#8217;s doing what the team&#8217;s best player needs to do.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s not Kobe, LeBron, Wade. Duncan or Chris Paul, but the Raptors don&#8217;t have players like that, and franchises can go a lifetime without ever getting guys like that.  Barring completely gutting the team and hoping John Wall falls on their lap, the Raptors have to make due with what they have.  Bosh, no matter how you look at it, is the Raptors best player and, at the very least, a top 15 player in the league (you could even say top 10, especially this season).  Until the Raptors get somebody better, they&#8217;ve got Bosh, and a lot of teams don&#8217;t even have a player as good as that.</p>
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		<title>By: joaquim</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44637</link>
		<dc:creator>joaquim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one more comment about the ratings.  how can you give amir 5?  He did what he was asked to do: rebound, play D and bring energy.  Not to mention that he didn&#039;t lose focus and try to do more to impress his former team (and he would&#039;ve been starting for the Pistons yesterday imo).  His rebounding avg was also pretty close to AB.

I know the ratings are subjective, but I sense a lot of angst and harsh evaluations of most players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one more comment about the ratings.  how can you give amir 5?  He did what he was asked to do: rebound, play D and bring energy.  Not to mention that he didn&#8217;t lose focus and try to do more to impress his former team (and he would&#8217;ve been starting for the Pistons yesterday imo).  His rebounding avg was also pretty close to AB.</p>
<p>I know the ratings are subjective, but I sense a lot of angst and harsh evaluations of most players.</p>
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		<title>By: TheR3dMenace</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44629</link>
		<dc:creator>TheR3dMenace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t feed the Trolls</description>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/11/04/rr-ratings-nov-4-vs-det/#comment-44621</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that Jose isn&#039;t out of shape. He&#039;s just not shooting well. I&#039;m sure he&#039;s as frustrated as anyone else, and as with all shooters he just has to keep firing away and eventually it&#039;ll fix itself. It happens to everyone, so if anything this is his chance to show that outside of spotting up he can prove valuable to the team in other, less tangible ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Jose isn&#8217;t out of shape. He&#8217;s just not shooting well. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s as frustrated as anyone else, and as with all shooters he just has to keep firing away and eventually it&#8217;ll fix itself. It happens to everyone, so if anything this is his chance to show that outside of spotting up he can prove valuable to the team in other, less tangible ways.</p>
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