Comments on: Top Ten things to do before opening night http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/ The Penultimate Toronto Raptors Fan Website Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:37:10 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: smushmush http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-43081 smushmush Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:52:25 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-43081 Sarcasm right. I love it. What I'm saying is that when you have a future All Star in Kevin Durant, a great point guard in Westbrook and good power forward in Green, the sky is the limit. All Oklahoma needs is change in thinking and mentality,that they are winners not bottom feeders of the conference, they are ready to do all it takes to play stifling defense(even Kevin Durant can play defense, he has long arms to cover opponents but he has not been asked to be committed to defense by their current coach).What's to say about Raptors:- 1.A #1 pick(Bargnani) can not be taught by any coach to play defense. Bargnani believes it is his to score points like Nowitzki but look lost on the floor on defense. It is excusable to him but definitely unacceptable for an NBA center. I don't blame Mitchell for benching him, he was not ready to change his mentality on defense.In addition, when you have got Colangelo on your side like Andrea does, you are untouchable which contributed to Mitchell's exit(the blown leads aside which we still have under Triano, coincidence? smh). Bryan felt his #1 pick was not given decent playing time when in actual fact, Andrea was not ready to change his mentality or make an effort on the defensive end.Modelling your game like Notwizki is nice Andrea but Notwitzki averages over 7 rebounds, when you equal that Andrea and Raptor fans, we can talk. 2. A franchise player that thinks he is the best power forward in the league and he is scaring soft Raptors by demanding for a trade. Bosh, how many rings do you have? Chris, how many NBA finals have you played in(so we can say you tried like Nowitzki, by the way Dallas and Nowitzki were robbed in that finals in 2006 by the referees)?Nada, nothing and zero. When you get a ring we can talk.You are very far on the line. The Fundamental(Tim Duncan) has 4 rings and the Big Ticket(Garnett) has a ring.This guy is another guy that can not have his mentality changed too. He is also a defensive liability. 3. A big man that has played or signed for 3 teams in 2 years(Detroit Pistons, Milwaukee Bucks and Toronto Raptors). He is being measured as a guy with lots of "potential" for a "3-4 year NBA player"(sarcastic intonation and ironic). Amir, ever wonder why you were sold by Detroit even with your "potential"? Johnson, ever wonder why you were benched and replaced with Kwame Brown(Kwame who?) when you were playing at Detroit?Amir, ever wonder why you were in 3 teams in 2 years? Amir, until you shed the "potential" tag and play real basketball, Amir and Raptor fans can't discus with me. This guy too is also defensively unfocused(proof-the Garnett blow by in the first or second Celtic game in preseason).Is this the guy you want to teach defense that is still riding on a "potential that may never be realized"(smh)?. 4.And a bunch of other scrubs that have no heart or passion for the game. How can you teach guys who only care about their paychecks and not the outcome of the game, defense? In conclusion, here is the difference between Raptors and Oklahoma City:- 1.Raptors are a bunch of soft nice guys that shake your hands, hug you and trade banters after having their ass handed out to them while Oklahoma City feels bad after a loss though they might still shake hands but no banters and hugs.And by the way, only having one rough guy(Reggie Evans) does not help, his attitude is not being picked up by other players.The other players still adopt the soft, nice and fair play team of the NBA(No wonder the team is a laughing stock and we are not even respected by bottom-feeder teams like Minnesota Timberwolves, smh) 2.Oklahoma City feels really happy after a win(especially the win against Raptors last year, all Oklahoma City players were see grinning from ear to ear). It shows that this guys value winning, their mentality and effort only needs to change. Whereas for the Raptors if we beat big teams like Orlando, Houston Rockets, San Antonio Spurs, we feel it is normal.Wins are not of value to the Raptor players, it seems only that their paychecks are only of value to them. Sarcasm right. I love it. What I’m saying is that when you have a future All Star in Kevin Durant, a great point guard in Westbrook and good power forward in Green, the sky is the limit. All Oklahoma needs is change in thinking and mentality,that they are winners not bottom feeders of the conference, they are ready to do all it takes to play stifling defense(even Kevin Durant can play defense, he has long arms to cover opponents but he has not been asked to be committed to defense by their current coach).What’s to say about Raptors:-
1.A #1 pick(Bargnani) can not be taught by any coach to play defense. Bargnani believes it is his to score points like Nowitzki but look lost on the floor on defense. It is excusable to him but definitely unacceptable for an NBA center. I don’t blame Mitchell for benching him, he was not ready to change his mentality on defense.In addition, when you have got Colangelo on your side like Andrea does, you are untouchable which contributed to Mitchell’s exit(the blown leads aside which we still have under Triano, coincidence? smh). Bryan felt his #1 pick was not given decent playing time when in actual fact, Andrea was not ready to change his mentality or make an effort on the defensive end.Modelling your game like Notwizki is nice Andrea but Notwitzki averages over 7 rebounds, when you equal that Andrea and Raptor fans, we can talk.
2. A franchise player that thinks he is the best power forward in the league and he is scaring soft Raptors by demanding for a trade. Bosh, how many rings do you have? Chris, how many NBA finals have you played in(so we can say you tried like Nowitzki, by the way Dallas and Nowitzki were robbed in that finals in 2006 by the referees)?Nada, nothing and zero. When you get a ring we can talk.You are very far on the line. The Fundamental(Tim Duncan) has 4 rings and the Big Ticket(Garnett) has a ring.This guy is another guy that can not have his mentality changed too. He is also a defensive liability.
3. A big man that has played or signed for 3 teams in 2 years(Detroit Pistons, Milwaukee Bucks and Toronto Raptors). He is being measured as a guy with lots of “potential” for a “3-4 year NBA player”(sarcastic intonation and ironic). Amir, ever wonder why you were sold by Detroit even with your “potential”? Johnson, ever wonder why you were benched and replaced with Kwame Brown(Kwame who?) when you were playing at Detroit?Amir, ever wonder why you were in 3 teams in 2 years? Amir, until you shed the “potential” tag and play real basketball, Amir and Raptor fans can’t discus with me. This guy too is also defensively unfocused(proof-the Garnett blow by in the first or second Celtic game in preseason).Is this the guy you want to teach defense that is still riding on a “potential that may never be realized”(smh)?.
4.And a bunch of other scrubs that have no heart or passion for the game. How can you teach guys who only care about their paychecks and not the outcome of the game, defense?
In conclusion, here is the difference between Raptors and Oklahoma City:-
1.Raptors are a bunch of soft nice guys that shake your hands, hug you and trade banters after having their ass handed out to them while Oklahoma City feels bad after a loss though they might still shake hands but no banters and hugs.And by the way, only having one rough guy(Reggie Evans) does not help, his attitude is not being picked up by other players.The other players still adopt the soft, nice and fair play team of the NBA(No wonder the team is a laughing stock and we are not even respected by bottom-feeder teams like Minnesota Timberwolves, smh)
2.Oklahoma City feels really happy after a win(especially the win against Raptors last year, all Oklahoma City players were see grinning from ear to ear). It shows that this guys value winning, their mentality and effort only needs to change. Whereas for the Raptors if we beat big teams like Orlando, Houston Rockets, San Antonio Spurs, we feel it is normal.Wins are not of value to the Raptor players, it seems only that their paychecks are only of value to them.

]]> By: Brain Colangelo http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42988 Brain Colangelo Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:01:05 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42988 the humour. the humour.

]]> By: J http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42980 J Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:21:47 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42980 It's called bottom-feeding for several years, and doing it in the right years. The Raptors have had middling picks the past while, and the one time they had a high draft pick, the draft was full of uncertain #1s (and don't give me that crap about Roy -- nobody would have picked him #1). Look at Atlanta. They drafted high year after year and finally after how many years of suckage, they're now a decent team. Sometimes, it has everything to do with luck. That is, unless you're the Clippers. And yes, Blake Griffin will probably suffer a major injury. It’s called bottom-feeding for several years, and doing it in the right years. The Raptors have had middling picks the past while, and the one time they had a high draft pick, the draft was full of uncertain #1s (and don’t give me that crap about Roy — nobody would have picked him #1). Look at Atlanta. They drafted high year after year and finally after how many years of suckage, they’re now a decent team. Sometimes, it has everything to do with luck. That is, unless you’re the Clippers. And yes, Blake Griffin will probably suffer a major injury.

]]> By: Macy O'Baston http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42979 Macy O'Baston Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:21:05 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42979 You hear that; OKC players have reached their potential, not like Amir & Bargs. Now all they need is a coach, management, and some new players! Man am I jealous You hear that; OKC players have reached their potential, not like Amir & Bargs. Now all they need is a coach, management, and some new players! Man am I jealous

]]> By: Daner http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42975 Daner Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:13:58 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42975 What are you sarcastic about FAQ or the clouds????? What are you sarcastic about FAQ or the clouds?????

]]> By: shahin http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42974 shahin Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:20:24 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42974 BC Rules :) and your posts are bunch of baseless garbage with no substance and nothing to back them up. BC Rules :) and your posts are bunch of baseless garbage with no substance and nothing to back them up.

]]> By: smushmush http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42973 smushmush Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:19:43 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42973 That's not the reason. Having an average Gm and management are the main reasons. Until these guys stop modelling us as the Suns of the East and getting players on the cheap with no passion for the game, we are going no where.Even Phil Jackson retiring from the Lakers going for a smaller team will choose Oklahoma City than us. Why? Because, these guys have a foundation that can be built upon, they have realized their potential unlike the Raptors Amir and Bargnani. All Oklahoma needs is a good coach to change their thinking and system and a management willing to pull suprise trades and waive players no matter their "star" status if they don't buy into the system. For the Raptors now, there are more issues to be addressed. That’s not the reason. Having an average Gm and management are the main reasons. Until these guys stop modelling us as the Suns of the East and getting players on the cheap with no passion for the game, we are going no where.Even Phil Jackson retiring from the Lakers going for a smaller team will choose Oklahoma City than us. Why? Because, these guys have a foundation that can be built upon, they have realized their potential unlike the Raptors Amir and Bargnani. All Oklahoma needs is a good coach to change their thinking and system and a management willing to pull suprise trades and waive players no matter their “star” status if they don’t buy into the system. For the Raptors now, there are more issues to be addressed.

]]> By: smushmush http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42972 smushmush Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:13:04 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42972 And a big man coach for Bargnani and Amir. That is a big gaping hole in the team. And a big man coach for Bargnani and Amir. That is a big gaping hole in the team.

]]> By: smushmush http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42970 smushmush Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:10:52 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42970 I think FAQ is just a sadist. By the way, he does have some truths. Toronto as a sport city really sucks(Maple Leafs winless, Jays not going to the playoffs again, last minute salvage for the playoffs for Toronto F.C. and a bad start for the raptors), how much worse can it get?(Even Cleveland has some success despite their 40 year title drought, infact Toronto teams are not in title talks). I think FAQ is just a sadist. By the way, he does have some truths. Toronto as a sport city really sucks(Maple Leafs winless, Jays not going to the playoffs again, last minute salvage for the playoffs for Toronto F.C. and a bad start for the raptors), how much worse can it get?(Even Cleveland has some success despite their 40 year title drought, infact Toronto teams are not in title talks).

]]> By: Brain Colangelo http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42966 Brain Colangelo Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:03:15 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42966 good one. cumulonimbus... ha ha ha. -BC PS. This is sarcasm. Thank you. good one. cumulonimbus… ha ha ha.

-BC

PS. This is sarcasm. Thank you.

]]> By: Marc http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42964 Marc Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:33:12 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42964 Your writing is as fluffy as a cumulonimbus cloud. Why don't you say something substantial for once? Your writing is as fluffy as a cumulonimbus cloud.

Why don’t you say something substantial for once?

]]> By: sauga_raptor http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42963 sauga_raptor Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:23:59 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42963 I've always wondered, are you even a fan of this team or just a hater??? I’ve always wondered, are you even a fan of this team or just a hater???

]]> By: Boko http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42962 Boko Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:12:34 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42962 That'll matter ONLY if we make the playoffs this year, win a series, & take the second series to a 7th game. Otherwise, BC's lustre is gone ... Bosh's status as a Raptor now depends on us playing reasonably well up to the end of November, and BC's status may depend on how we deal with reality over the ensuing months, with or without Bosh. BC will NOT be able to weather a third makeover that fails. Three strikes, and you're out, right?! That’ll matter ONLY if we make the playoffs this year, win a series, & take the second series to a 7th game. Otherwise, BC’s lustre is gone … Bosh’s status as a Raptor now depends on us playing reasonably well up to the end of November, and BC’s status may depend on how we deal with reality over the ensuing months, with or without Bosh. BC will NOT be able to weather a third makeover that fails. Three strikes, and you’re out, right?!

]]> By: FAQ http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42961 FAQ Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:23:39 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42961 People people people ... the only reason Triano got the job of head coach is because no other self-respecting NBA-experienced coach would even consider taking the job ... unless you are a Lenny Wilkens and get a pisspot full of money to do nothing much. Also, BC knew that Triano would accept the role of an interim developmental coach, until BC completes the total rebuild of the Raptors. I hope you people don't think that this is the team that BC is hoping will eventually mature into a playoff contender ... because this bunch of disparate players is only a stopgap measure to keep the team afloat as things evolve. People people people … the only reason Triano got the job of head coach is because no other self-respecting NBA-experienced coach would even consider taking the job … unless you are a Lenny Wilkens and get a pisspot full of money to do nothing much.

Also, BC knew that Triano would accept the role of an interim developmental coach, until BC completes the total rebuild of the Raptors. I hope you people don’t think that this is the team that BC is hoping will eventually mature into a playoff contender … because this bunch of disparate players is only a stopgap measure to keep the team afloat as things evolve.

]]> By: FAQ http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42960 FAQ Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:13:18 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42960 Absolutely, Raptoronto .... but let's not ignore the fact that miracles in the NBA are far and few between, because tough competition will expose your weaknesses ... and it's those weaknesses that interest me on this rebuilt team. Fans only yearn for the thrill of "wins" and "scoring"... all without confronting the reality that the opposition teams have proven veteran athletes ready to decimate the fledgling new Raptors. Noooo mercy .. believe it..!!! Good things take care of themselves ... it's the bad things that we must understand and confront in our fan-tastic minds ...!!! t.h. fans believe that only good must be said of the Raptors, because if anybody says something bad, that may become the reality and it's all the fault of somebody who said something bad about their beloved Raptors. You know ... childish mentalities who most likely never stepped on a court to play serious bball .. and facing a monster opposition team ....!!!!! Absolutely, Raptoronto …. but let’s not ignore the fact that miracles in the NBA are far and few between, because tough competition will expose your weaknesses … and it’s those weaknesses that interest me on this rebuilt team. Fans only yearn for the thrill of “wins” and “scoring”… all without confronting the reality that the opposition teams have proven veteran athletes ready to decimate the fledgling new Raptors. Noooo mercy .. believe it..!!!

Good things take care of themselves … it’s the bad things that we must understand and confront in our fan-tastic minds …!!!

t.h. fans believe that only good must be said of the Raptors, because if anybody says something bad, that may become the reality and it’s all the fault of somebody who said something bad about their beloved Raptors. You know … childish mentalities who most likely never stepped on a court to play serious bball .. and facing a monster opposition team ….!!!!!

]]> By: FAQ http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42959 FAQ Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:04:14 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42959 Triano said you can't fool these guys .. they know the score ... watch the 1 hour interview done with Triano on RaptorTV with him talking about his life and work in bball ... enlightening ... particularly his comment that the players know what is happening and what is going to happen. It's only the t.h. fans who desperately cling to their delusions and hero worship to make their fantasies real and unassailable ... faith and love ... love and faith ... in their beloved Raptors ....!!!! Triano said you can’t fool these guys .. they know the score … watch the 1 hour interview done with Triano on RaptorTV with him talking about his life and work in bball … enlightening … particularly his comment that the players know what is happening and what is going to happen.

It’s only the t.h. fans who desperately cling to their delusions and hero worship to make their fantasies real and unassailable … faith and love … love and faith … in their beloved Raptors ….!!!!

]]> By: Raptoronto http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42958 Raptoronto Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:23:51 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42958 Comments like this are what make me hate posts like this. There's nothing of value in this post for an NBA coach and it obviously was written in jest to outline that this team has problems to fix. Who's gonna teach Triano the triangle? It's not an easy system to learn and even tougher to implement and convince players as a collective team to run it. If a coach hasn't "lived" in the triangle, no chance of him using it with any success. ...and Bargs is quite good at boxing out, his problem is reacting to the carom; he's always flat footed and slow to get to the ball. Bosh is worse at letting his check slip in but great at anticipating the bounce and getting after the ball. Bosh benefits from Bargs box out's, while Bargs losing some for the opposite reason (combined with his slow reaction time). ...all these players perfected close outs in high school and it won't help improve help D and recovery (maybe avoid it but not in the NBA). Hard close out actually hurt this team last as players constantly over committed when trying to front their man (lack of athleticism can't be covered up for long). Understanding rotations, spacing and the strengths and tendancies of other teams and their players will help but it will take time. Let the real games begin...so we can discuss real basketball! Comments like this are what make me hate posts like this. There’s nothing of value in this post for an NBA coach and it obviously was written in jest to outline that this team has problems to fix.

Who’s gonna teach Triano the triangle? It’s not an easy system to learn and even tougher to implement and convince players as a collective team to run it. If a coach hasn’t “lived” in the triangle, no chance of him using it with any success.

…and Bargs is quite good at boxing out, his problem is reacting to the carom; he’s always flat footed and slow to get to the ball. Bosh is worse at letting his check slip in but great at anticipating the bounce and getting after the ball. Bosh benefits from Bargs box out’s, while Bargs losing some for the opposite reason (combined with his slow reaction time).

…all these players perfected close outs in high school and it won’t help improve help D and recovery (maybe avoid it but not in the NBA). Hard close out actually hurt this team last as players constantly over committed when trying to front their man (lack of athleticism can’t be covered up for long). Understanding rotations, spacing and the strengths and tendancies of other teams and their players will help but it will take time.

Let the real games begin…so we can discuss real basketball!

]]> By: Boko http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42957 Boko Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:54:01 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42957 Hmm, how about a full-time shooting coach for Wright, Evans, Johnson, DeRozan & Jack, and an effective defensive focus for Bargnani, Bosh, Turkoglu & Calderon (I don't know what'll work, though!). Hmm, how about a full-time shooting coach for Wright, Evans, Johnson, DeRozan & Jack, and an effective defensive focus for Bargnani, Bosh, Turkoglu & Calderon (I don’t know what’ll work, though!).

]]> By: TorontoForever http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42956 TorontoForever Sun, 25 Oct 2009 18:53:44 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42956 Arse, maybe you can replace Triano. Nice ideas. Arse, maybe you can replace Triano. Nice ideas.

]]> By: bhattmagandhi http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/25/top-ten-things-to-do-before-opening-night/#comment-42955 bhattmagandhi Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:27:18 +0000 http://raptorsrepublic.com/?p=11725#comment-42955 as much as these drills would help them, Triano won't be doing anything but team offensive & defensive sets. as much as these drills would help them, Triano won’t be doing anything but team offensive & defensive sets.

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