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		<title>By: sleepz</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/22/weems-5-derozan-0/#comment-42801</link>
		<dc:creator>sleepz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here here 2.0</description>
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		<title>By: sleepz</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleepz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here here!</description>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True but Bargs has expanded his game and is going into season 4.  Bosh seems to be what he is and doesn&#039;t seem to have added much, if anything, to his game for the past 2 seasons, maybe more.  We&#039;ll all know this year if Bargs is what he is (decent scorer, crap everywhere else) or if he makes a leap by lessening his weaknesses.  He&#039;s improved a bit defensively, so that&#039;s why people like me entertain the possibility he&#039;ll get better.  When it comes to rebounding, however . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True but Bargs has expanded his game and is going into season 4.  Bosh seems to be what he is and doesn&#8217;t seem to have added much, if anything, to his game for the past 2 seasons, maybe more.  We&#8217;ll all know this year if Bargs is what he is (decent scorer, crap everywhere else) or if he makes a leap by lessening his weaknesses.  He&#8217;s improved a bit defensively, so that&#8217;s why people like me entertain the possibility he&#8217;ll get better.  When it comes to rebounding, however . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if I can&#039;t get there on a streetcar inside 20 minutes, it ain&#039;t downtown.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is why Garnett was on him. He had games of incredible efficiency last year, I recall one against Chicago where he had 11 shot attempts and 25 points.&quot;

Actually, I would guess Garnett was on Bargnani because Bosh is quicker and RIvers didn&#039;t want Garnett and his healing knee try and guard Bosh.  Not to say that Bargnani isn&#039;t a tough guard, but Garnett is certainly not fully healed yet, or did no one notice the limp he still has?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is why Garnett was on him. He had games of incredible efficiency last year, I recall one against Chicago where he had 11 shot attempts and 25 points.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, I would guess Garnett was on Bargnani because Bosh is quicker and RIvers didn&#8217;t want Garnett and his healing knee try and guard Bosh.  Not to say that Bargnani isn&#8217;t a tough guard, but Garnett is certainly not fully healed yet, or did no one notice the limp he still has?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So basically, if Bargnani becomes a much better player, he&#039;ll be a star. Couldn&#039;t the same be said of Bosh, though? If he gets a couple of more post moves and gets better defensively, he&#039;ll be a top tier player. 

I can&#039;t help but notice that people touting Bargnani as a future star give him almost no limits on how he&#039;ll improve, but assume Bosh has hit his ceiling.  

Bargnani doesn&#039;t have any real reliable post moves and is a below average rebounder.  And there&#039;s no indication that will ever change.

Hey, if I was 6 inches taller, more athletic, with better skills, I could be in the NBA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So basically, if Bargnani becomes a much better player, he&#8217;ll be a star. Couldn&#8217;t the same be said of Bosh, though? If he gets a couple of more post moves and gets better defensively, he&#8217;ll be a top tier player. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but notice that people touting Bargnani as a future star give him almost no limits on how he&#8217;ll improve, but assume Bosh has hit his ceiling.  </p>
<p>Bargnani doesn&#8217;t have any real reliable post moves and is a below average rebounder.  And there&#8217;s no indication that will ever change.</p>
<p>Hey, if I was 6 inches taller, more athletic, with better skills, I could be in the NBA!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Okur&#039;s best season, he averaged 18 ppg and 9 rpg, and, in fact, topped out at 19 ppg per 36 mpg, as compared to Bargnani&#039;s 17.6 ppg.  Not sure where you&#039;re getting the information that Bargnani scored more than Okur.  There&#039;s sounding silly, and then there&#039;s making stuff up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Okur&#8217;s best season, he averaged 18 ppg and 9 rpg, and, in fact, topped out at 19 ppg per 36 mpg, as compared to Bargnani&#8217;s 17.6 ppg.  Not sure where you&#8217;re getting the information that Bargnani scored more than Okur.  There&#8217;s sounding silly, and then there&#8217;s making stuff up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I will admit that if Bargnani ever averages 25 and 8, he will be better than Bosh is right now.  And if Calderon averages 20 and 15, he&#039;ll be a top 3 PG.   Unfortunately, Calderon will never 20 and 15 and Bargnani will never average 25 and 8, so let&#039;s not even go there.  Bosh has a better chance of averaging 26 and 10 this season than Bargnani does at ever averaging 25-8.  He averaged a career high 6 rpg/36 mpg last season and is actually doing a worse job in the preseason.  It&#039;s incredibly difficult to become a better rebounder by the time you&#039;ve hit the NBA.  Guys either can or can&#039;t.  You might as well ask Shaq to become a three point shooter.

As to Bargnani being a good SCORER, as opposed to shooter, that&#039;s not really true.  He&#039;s a fantastic shooter, but he&#039;s simply not very good in the post.  I&#039;d love to know what his field goal percentage is off of post moves, but I&#039;m guessing it wouldn&#039;t be very high.  Now, with practice, Bargnani could very well become a good post player, but he&#039;ll never be a great one, because it simply doesn&#039;t come naturally to him.  And outside, he gets most of his shots off of assists.  He needs someone to set him up most of the time.  And when he does get the ball, he doesn&#039;t get to the line at a high rate.  

I started an explanation of this, but then realized I&#039;ve done it so many times, I should write it on my blog, and include the link...

http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/2009/10/what-makes-a-great-scorer/

It&#039;s a bit of a read.

Oh, and as for Bargnani&#039;s field goal, 3 point and free throw percentage, first of all, it was 45% FG and 41 3pt%, not the numbers you said.  And that&#039;s not bad for a center.  Sam Perkins, Terry Mills and Brad Lohaus had similar numbers over the course of their career, and not one of them ever made the All-Star team, by the way.  Then there was Bill Laimbeer, who did make the All-Star team, and averaging fairly similar numbers, but was also a great defender and had a career rebounding averaging of 9.7.  Oh, and Mehmet Okur has even better numbers from the field and 3 point line than Bargnani, but still manages to grab a few more rebounds a game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I will admit that if Bargnani ever averages 25 and 8, he will be better than Bosh is right now.  And if Calderon averages 20 and 15, he&#8217;ll be a top 3 PG.   Unfortunately, Calderon will never 20 and 15 and Bargnani will never average 25 and 8, so let&#8217;s not even go there.  Bosh has a better chance of averaging 26 and 10 this season than Bargnani does at ever averaging 25-8.  He averaged a career high 6 rpg/36 mpg last season and is actually doing a worse job in the preseason.  It&#8217;s incredibly difficult to become a better rebounder by the time you&#8217;ve hit the NBA.  Guys either can or can&#8217;t.  You might as well ask Shaq to become a three point shooter.</p>
<p>As to Bargnani being a good SCORER, as opposed to shooter, that&#8217;s not really true.  He&#8217;s a fantastic shooter, but he&#8217;s simply not very good in the post.  I&#8217;d love to know what his field goal percentage is off of post moves, but I&#8217;m guessing it wouldn&#8217;t be very high.  Now, with practice, Bargnani could very well become a good post player, but he&#8217;ll never be a great one, because it simply doesn&#8217;t come naturally to him.  And outside, he gets most of his shots off of assists.  He needs someone to set him up most of the time.  And when he does get the ball, he doesn&#8217;t get to the line at a high rate.  </p>
<p>I started an explanation of this, but then realized I&#8217;ve done it so many times, I should write it on my blog, and include the link&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/2009/10/what-makes-a-great-scorer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/2009/10/what-makes-a-great-scorer/</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit of a read.</p>
<p>Oh, and as for Bargnani&#8217;s field goal, 3 point and free throw percentage, first of all, it was 45% FG and 41 3pt%, not the numbers you said.  And that&#8217;s not bad for a center.  Sam Perkins, Terry Mills and Brad Lohaus had similar numbers over the course of their career, and not one of them ever made the All-Star team, by the way.  Then there was Bill Laimbeer, who did make the All-Star team, and averaging fairly similar numbers, but was also a great defender and had a career rebounding averaging of 9.7.  Oh, and Mehmet Okur has even better numbers from the field and 3 point line than Bargnani, but still manages to grab a few more rebounds a game.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more.  If he develops a couple of moderately reliable post moves and continues to make good decisions offensively he does become borderline unguardable.  If he developed defensively to the point where he was a decent PF/C defender and average rebounder he could be a star.  I think the chances of the former happening are decent.  I&#039;m not so sure about the defensive improvements.  I know he&#039;s a bit of a killjoy, but the Khandor piece linked here is a decent analysis of where Bargs stands now.

And to whoever suggested Pryzbilla as a guy to team with Bargs, yeah, that seems about right.  But if BC turns Bosh into Pryzbilla do the Raptors become the whitest team in the NBA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  If he develops a couple of moderately reliable post moves and continues to make good decisions offensively he does become borderline unguardable.  If he developed defensively to the point where he was a decent PF/C defender and average rebounder he could be a star.  I think the chances of the former happening are decent.  I&#8217;m not so sure about the defensive improvements.  I know he&#8217;s a bit of a killjoy, but the Khandor piece linked here is a decent analysis of where Bargs stands now.</p>
<p>And to whoever suggested Pryzbilla as a guy to team with Bargs, yeah, that seems about right.  But if BC turns Bosh into Pryzbilla do the Raptors become the whitest team in the NBA?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Baird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Baird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are at different points in their career.  Bargnani&#039;s potential could make him better than Bosh when he reaches the point in HIS career that Bosh is at NOW.  Your &quot;at this point in his career&quot; says it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are at different points in their career.  Bargnani&#8217;s potential could make him better than Bosh when he reaches the point in HIS career that Bosh is at NOW.  Your &#8220;at this point in his career&#8221; says it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Seeten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bargnani scares teams when he catches fire, because he&#039;s borderline unguardable, if you don&#039;t react to the shot attempt, its a 3 in your face, and if you go up, he&#039;s either going by you for a dunk, or he&#039;s leaning into you for a trip to the free throw line.

If the defender is small and quick, he has shown a desire to take him inside(at least to the top of the key, and shoot over him) and if he&#039;s big, its out to the 3 point line.

This is why Garnett was on him. He had games of incredible efficiency last year, I recall one against Chicago where he had 11 shot attempts and 25 points.

I understand the detractors, too, but I love watching Bargnani on offense. He&#039;s exciting, I have no idea what he is going to do, and 2 or 3 times a game, I jump out of my seat and say, &quot;WHAT?!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bargnani scares teams when he catches fire, because he&#8217;s borderline unguardable, if you don&#8217;t react to the shot attempt, its a 3 in your face, and if you go up, he&#8217;s either going by you for a dunk, or he&#8217;s leaning into you for a trip to the free throw line.</p>
<p>If the defender is small and quick, he has shown a desire to take him inside(at least to the top of the key, and shoot over him) and if he&#8217;s big, its out to the 3 point line.</p>
<p>This is why Garnett was on him. He had games of incredible efficiency last year, I recall one against Chicago where he had 11 shot attempts and 25 points.</p>
<p>I understand the detractors, too, but I love watching Bargnani on offense. He&#8217;s exciting, I have no idea what he is going to do, and 2 or 3 times a game, I jump out of my seat and say, &#8220;WHAT?!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Seeten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want the Vanilla Gorilla, Joel Pryzbilla.

Easily my favorite Center in the league.

His rebounding numbers are off the hook, he plays good D and help D, makes a reasonable salary, and knows his role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want the Vanilla Gorilla, Joel Pryzbilla.</p>
<p>Easily my favorite Center in the league.</p>
<p>His rebounding numbers are off the hook, he plays good D and help D, makes a reasonable salary, and knows his role.</p>
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		<title>By: Seeten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Okur only averages 17 ppg and 7.7 rpg. VL averaged more than that in the second half of last season, for ppg, so he&#039;s already surpassed Okur, for offensive ceiling.

I understand tempering your enthusiasm, but not to the point of sounding silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Okur only averages 17 ppg and 7.7 rpg. VL averaged more than that in the second half of last season, for ppg, so he&#8217;s already surpassed Okur, for offensive ceiling.</p>
<p>I understand tempering your enthusiasm, but not to the point of sounding silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Hardcore Raps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hardcore Raps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;Neal&#039;s contract is irrelevenat to the argument though (well I guess taking up 22 mil is always relevant but....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217;Neal&#8217;s contract is irrelevenat to the argument though (well I guess taking up 22 mil is always relevant but&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: LC009</title>
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		<dc:creator>LC009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, nearly 3/4 of the visitors to this site disagree with you.

One of the reasons why is that you are immensely downplaying Bargnani&#039;s abilities. For one, he has already become an above average one-on-one defender (much better against big centers than Bosh).

Secondly, he doesn&#039;t just shoot well, he SCORES well (and increasingly so). His offensive arsenal is still expanding, and he is already looking like a very versatile player offensively. This means that he can be a deadly mismatch for other teams to handle, and one of the reasons why Garnett was guarding him instead of Perkins (who would not be able to guard Bargnani on the perimeter and/or recover when he gets beaten out there).

Also, he is a better shot-blocker than Bosh.

If he improves his team-defence slightly, than he will already be at Bosh&#039;s level in that category.


Having said all that, let&#039;s play &quot;What if&quot; for a second. Suppose Bosh leaves and Bargnani becomes our focus on offense. Bargnani then averages 25 PPG and (let&#039;s say) 8 RPG. Who is the better player?

Bargnani&#039;s averages in 2009 were: (FG 0.47)  (3P 0.43)  (FT 0.82). Those last two stats are insane for a center. If he can be aggressive and more versatile this year, he will be an offensive powerhouse.

Also, if he can improve his rebounding to about 7 RPG, look for him to be a reserve All-Star.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, nearly 3/4 of the visitors to this site disagree with you.</p>
<p>One of the reasons why is that you are immensely downplaying Bargnani&#8217;s abilities. For one, he has already become an above average one-on-one defender (much better against big centers than Bosh).</p>
<p>Secondly, he doesn&#8217;t just shoot well, he SCORES well (and increasingly so). His offensive arsenal is still expanding, and he is already looking like a very versatile player offensively. This means that he can be a deadly mismatch for other teams to handle, and one of the reasons why Garnett was guarding him instead of Perkins (who would not be able to guard Bargnani on the perimeter and/or recover when he gets beaten out there).</p>
<p>Also, he is a better shot-blocker than Bosh.</p>
<p>If he improves his team-defence slightly, than he will already be at Bosh&#8217;s level in that category.</p>
<p>Having said all that, let&#8217;s play &#8220;What if&#8221; for a second. Suppose Bosh leaves and Bargnani becomes our focus on offense. Bargnani then averages 25 PPG and (let&#8217;s say) 8 RPG. Who is the better player?</p>
<p>Bargnani&#8217;s averages in 2009 were: (FG 0.47)  (3P 0.43)  (FT 0.82). Those last two stats are insane for a center. If he can be aggressive and more versatile this year, he will be an offensive powerhouse.</p>
<p>Also, if he can improve his rebounding to about 7 RPG, look for him to be a reserve All-Star.</p>
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		<title>By: Marz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here I am thinking it stood for Voshon Lenard... what? It made perfect sense to me! Former 6&#039;4&quot; raptor player that could shoot stuck in a 7-footers body? Ah w/e...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here I am thinking it stood for Voshon Lenard&#8230; what? It made perfect sense to me! Former 6&#8242;4&#8243; raptor player that could shoot stuck in a 7-footers body? Ah w/e&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raps Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raps Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VL was a nickname Arsenalist gave Bargnani, last season, which stands for Vegetable Lasagna (Seinfeld reference).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VL was a nickname Arsenalist gave Bargnani, last season, which stands for Vegetable Lasagna (Seinfeld reference).</p>
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		<title>By: Marz</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/22/weems-5-derozan-0/#comment-42672</link>
		<dc:creator>Marz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps O&#039;Neal the player wasn&#039;t the problem last season, but O&#039;Neal the contract was. As you say, if he was here with this year&#039;s depth we would have been in a much better position. But we can&#039;t have that depth thanks to his ridiculously large contract. Hedo&#039;s contract is less than half of O&#039;Neal&#039;s, and that&#039;s why this season we can afford to have players like Jarret Jack and Amir Johnson instead of Roko Ukic and Hassan Adams. 

So in short, O&#039;Neal was the problem last season. Trading for him meant having to rely on him and Bosh to be the ones to carry the team. That couldn&#039;t happen, not with their injury history + Calderon going down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps O&#8217;Neal the player wasn&#8217;t the problem last season, but O&#8217;Neal the contract was. As you say, if he was here with this year&#8217;s depth we would have been in a much better position. But we can&#8217;t have that depth thanks to his ridiculously large contract. Hedo&#8217;s contract is less than half of O&#8217;Neal&#8217;s, and that&#8217;s why this season we can afford to have players like Jarret Jack and Amir Johnson instead of Roko Ukic and Hassan Adams. </p>
<p>So in short, O&#8217;Neal was the problem last season. Trading for him meant having to rely on him and Bosh to be the ones to carry the team. That couldn&#8217;t happen, not with their injury history + Calderon going down.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/22/weems-5-derozan-0/#comment-42671</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;Neal wasn&#039;t the problem last season.  It was that, outside of Bosh and O&#039;Neal, not one Raptor would step up consistently.  The O&#039;Neal thing is considered a failure, but for the wrong reasons.  If O&#039;Neal was on this years team, with their depth and scoring ability, the result would be very different.  Yes, he got hurt again, but by that time, the dye was cast.  

And Bargnani certainly doesn&#039;t have a higher ceiling than Dirk because Dirk was always a good rebounder and half decent post player.  Plus, he got to the line at an excellent rate, despite taking so many outside shots.  Bargnani is not a good enough defender or passer to make up for his weaknesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217;Neal wasn&#8217;t the problem last season.  It was that, outside of Bosh and O&#8217;Neal, not one Raptor would step up consistently.  The O&#8217;Neal thing is considered a failure, but for the wrong reasons.  If O&#8217;Neal was on this years team, with their depth and scoring ability, the result would be very different.  Yes, he got hurt again, but by that time, the dye was cast.  </p>
<p>And Bargnani certainly doesn&#8217;t have a higher ceiling than Dirk because Dirk was always a good rebounder and half decent post player.  Plus, he got to the line at an excellent rate, despite taking so many outside shots.  Bargnani is not a good enough defender or passer to make up for his weaknesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim W.</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/10/22/weems-5-derozan-0/#comment-42669</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, who the hell is VL?  Pet peeve of mine using initials.  

As for Bargnani, I don&#039;t understand how a guy who has one single skill that is above average (shooting) can apparently have more potential than a 22-10 guy.  I also don&#039;t understand how a guy who might be one of the worst rebounders, pound for pound, in the entire league, can be considered a future star.  

Bargnani does one thing well.  Shoot.  That&#039;s it.  Besides being a horrible rebounder, he&#039;s below average in the post for a 7-footer, average, at best, defensively, and he rarely creates shots for himself (more than 75% of his shots last year were assisted).  Bargnani will never be considered a better player than Bosh if he can&#039;t rebound the ball at even an average rate, and there&#039;s no indication he will ever do that.  Bosh has a better chance at becoming an above average defender and 26 ppg scorer than Bargnani has of becoming an average rebounder and good post player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, who the hell is VL?  Pet peeve of mine using initials.  </p>
<p>As for Bargnani, I don&#8217;t understand how a guy who has one single skill that is above average (shooting) can apparently have more potential than a 22-10 guy.  I also don&#8217;t understand how a guy who might be one of the worst rebounders, pound for pound, in the entire league, can be considered a future star.  </p>
<p>Bargnani does one thing well.  Shoot.  That&#8217;s it.  Besides being a horrible rebounder, he&#8217;s below average in the post for a 7-footer, average, at best, defensively, and he rarely creates shots for himself (more than 75% of his shots last year were assisted).  Bargnani will never be considered a better player than Bosh if he can&#8217;t rebound the ball at even an average rate, and there&#8217;s no indication he will ever do that.  Bosh has a better chance at becoming an above average defender and 26 ppg scorer than Bargnani has of becoming an average rebounder and good post player.</p>
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