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		<title>By: pape's ow</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40676</link>
		<dc:creator>pape's ow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not sure when it starts (or whether it&#039;ll run on Macs) but NBA league pass broadband is supposed to be accessible in Canada this year. It&#039;s not too too much ($120/season last year) considering all the games you get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not sure when it starts (or whether it&#8217;ll run on Macs) but NBA league pass broadband is supposed to be accessible in Canada this year. It&#8217;s not too too much ($120/season last year) considering all the games you get.</p>
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		<title>By: whoknows</title>
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		<dc:creator>whoknows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tim hortons was good before once. before the whole wendys ownership thing. now yes it isnt very good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tim hortons was good before once. before the whole wendys ownership thing. now yes it isnt very good.</p>
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		<title>By: LC009</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40672</link>
		<dc:creator>LC009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well played sir. Touché!</description>
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		<title>By: LC009</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40671</link>
		<dc:creator>LC009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 02:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Justin in the sense that 50 wins is our best case scenario. By definition, that means being optimistic.

That being said, I think that our mostly-injury-free worst case scenario is 40 wins (worse if we have to deal with significant injuries).

Realistically, I would be very happy with around 45 wins this season, and so should any sensible fan. If Bosh resigns with that, we can have great continuity (from having our core group signed for several years) and a fairly young group of players that are still improving (Bargnani, Derozan, Belinelli, Johnson). That win total could thus grow to 50, maybe even 55 wins if several of these young guys develop well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Justin in the sense that 50 wins is our best case scenario. By definition, that means being optimistic.</p>
<p>That being said, I think that our mostly-injury-free worst case scenario is 40 wins (worse if we have to deal with significant injuries).</p>
<p>Realistically, I would be very happy with around 45 wins this season, and so should any sensible fan. If Bosh resigns with that, we can have great continuity (from having our core group signed for several years) and a fairly young group of players that are still improving (Bargnani, Derozan, Belinelli, Johnson). That win total could thus grow to 50, maybe even 55 wins if several of these young guys develop well.</p>
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		<title>By: macman</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40670</link>
		<dc:creator>macman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are a couple sites that offer live tv...

this is one: http://www.atdhe.net/

another is: http://www.justin.tv/directory?category=sports

there are also normally links on raptors republic homepage... quality is never that good but its better than nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are a couple sites that offer live tv&#8230;</p>
<p>this is one: <a href="http://www.atdhe.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.atdhe.net/</a></p>
<p>another is: <a href="http://www.justin.tv/directory?category=sports" rel="nofollow">http://www.justin.tv/directory?category=sports</a></p>
<p>there are also normally links on raptors republic homepage&#8230; quality is never that good but its better than nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: edgar_1220</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40669</link>
		<dc:creator>edgar_1220</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god I am still running Windows 3.1!  Netscape Navigator biatches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god I am still running Windows 3.1!  Netscape Navigator biatches!</p>
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		<title>By: Raps Fan</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40668</link>
		<dc:creator>Raps Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Trizzo, we will look into it. I actually think it is the videos we have posted on this page, been getting grief everywhere about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Trizzo, we will look into it. I actually think it is the videos we have posted on this page, been getting grief everywhere about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Buddahfan</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40667</link>
		<dc:creator>Buddahfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Johnson&#039;s career defensive rating is 100 compared to Wallace 101

Of course those are only numbers for what they are worth.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/2009.html

82games. com shows Johnson with a +5.4 on court production last season, best on the Pistons vs Wallace 5.0 2nd best on the Pistons.  Then again those are only numbers.

http://www.82games.com/0809/0809DET.HTM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Johnson&#8217;s career defensive rating is 100 compared to Wallace 101</p>
<p>Of course those are only numbers for what they are worth.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/2009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/2009.html</a></p>
<p>82games. com shows Johnson with a +5.4 on court production last season, best on the Pistons vs Wallace 5.0 2nd best on the Pistons.  Then again those are only numbers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.82games.com/0809/0809DET.HTM" rel="nofollow">http://www.82games.com/0809/0809DET.HTM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Toronto4Ever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toronto4Ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You would know all about Hamstrings wouldn&#039;t you Jose? xD Kinda bugged me how CB4 and Hedo didn&#039;t come. I understand how they both worked hard and CB has a bit of an injury but cmon Turk. We&#039;re not paying you 50 mil + to sit there and look pretty. Gah, hope this doesn&#039;t turn into a habit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would know all about Hamstrings wouldn&#8217;t you Jose? xD Kinda bugged me how CB4 and Hedo didn&#8217;t come. I understand how they both worked hard and CB has a bit of an injury but cmon Turk. We&#8217;re not paying you 50 mil + to sit there and look pretty. Gah, hope this doesn&#8217;t turn into a habit.</p>
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		<title>By: trizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>trizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t.  Mac&#039;s are only good for artsy things.  Sports are too low brow for the mac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t.  Mac&#8217;s are only good for artsy things.  Sports are too low brow for the mac.</p>
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		<title>By: trizzo</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40663</link>
		<dc:creator>trizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean it crashes ie8, not the entire operating system (thought i would mention the OS just in case).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean it crashes ie8, not the entire operating system (thought i would mention the OS just in case).</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50 wins is being very optimistic, 60 wins would be just be dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50 wins is being very optimistic, 60 wins would be just be dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: trizzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>trizzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note to the admin, this site crashes Windows 7 and IE8, had to install firefox.



Before you give me a computer lesson, and how firefox is better, etc, I am just pointing it out, becasue this site is geared to the general audience of sports, not techies, it would be nice if it was accessible to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note to the admin, this site crashes Windows 7 and IE8, had to install firefox.</p>
<p>Before you give me a computer lesson, and how firefox is better, etc, I am just pointing it out, becasue this site is geared to the general audience of sports, not techies, it would be nice if it was accessible to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tau Epsilon Nu</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40660</link>
		<dc:creator>Tau Epsilon Nu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Raps Fan
Wow, I don&#039;t recall another example of such a small training camp roster. At the LT + 15 guaranteed contracts = no interest in looking for a 12th to 15th roster spot occupier I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Raps Fan<br />
Wow, I don&#8217;t recall another example of such a small training camp roster. At the LT + 15 guaranteed contracts = no interest in looking for a 12th to 15th roster spot occupier I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Asif</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/09/30/training-camp-day-1/#comment-40659</link>
		<dc:creator>Asif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I enjoyed watching TMac playing bball and didn’t care for which team he played for … unlike small-minded fans who want to win at any cost … me me me me ….&quot;

I wish selfless heroes like McGrady knew what an amazing friend they have – a guy(?) who isn&#039;t afraid to stand up to the honking fools that can&#039;t see how stupid and selfish and greedy they are. Fans of teams are so stupid with their me-first, win-at-all-cost outlook. It&#039;s so selfish to not support TMac in his ongoing efforts to make the world a better place. All this dude has ever done is give and give. With him, it&#039;s never &quot;me...me... me..&quot;. It&#039;s more like, &quot;here... no, you first, ... please, I insist....&quot; If fans could just stop being so stupid for half a second they could learn a lot from this guy because he&#039;s obviously really huge-minded and is clearly above all this cheering for a team crap, which makes him better than everyone, especially you. Yeah, you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I enjoyed watching TMac playing bball and didn’t care for which team he played for … unlike small-minded fans who want to win at any cost … me me me me ….&#8221;</p>
<p>I wish selfless heroes like McGrady knew what an amazing friend they have – a guy(?) who isn&#8217;t afraid to stand up to the honking fools that can&#8217;t see how stupid and selfish and greedy they are. Fans of teams are so stupid with their me-first, win-at-all-cost outlook. It&#8217;s so selfish to not support TMac in his ongoing efforts to make the world a better place. All this dude has ever done is give and give. With him, it&#8217;s never &#8220;me&#8230;me&#8230; me..&#8221;. It&#8217;s more like, &#8220;here&#8230; no, you first, &#8230; please, I insist&#8230;.&#8221; If fans could just stop being so stupid for half a second they could learn a lot from this guy because he&#8217;s obviously really huge-minded and is clearly above all this cheering for a team crap, which makes him better than everyone, especially you. Yeah, you.</p>
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		<title>By: James Ballswin (Realizar)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Ballswin (Realizar)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether Bosh stays or goes next summer, I think he&#039;s going to give it his all this season - and that&#039;s all that matters and all we (fans/team/org) want to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether Bosh stays or goes next summer, I think he&#8217;s going to give it his all this season &#8211; and that&#8217;s all that matters and all we (fans/team/org) want to see.</p>
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		<title>By: James Ballswin (Realizar)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Ballswin (Realizar)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed. Enjoy! ;)</description>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thing?  Bad thing?

I&#039;m gonna say good thing.  Colangelo knew Hassan Adams was never going to play.  If that&#039;s the case, why even have him on the roster at all?

Maybe Doubs will get some burn this year.  I hope not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing?  Bad thing?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gonna say good thing.  Colangelo knew Hassan Adams was never going to play.  If that&#8217;s the case, why even have him on the roster at all?</p>
<p>Maybe Doubs will get some burn this year.  I hope not.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s called grey.  Get used to it, it&#039;ll be November before you know it.

If things go well this season, there&#039;s no reason why he wouldn&#039;t stay.  If they don&#039;t go well, there&#039;s no reason why we wouldn&#039;t try to move him.

Either or, somehow, we&#039;ll survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s called grey.  Get used to it, it&#8217;ll be November before you know it.</p>
<p>If things go well this season, there&#8217;s no reason why he wouldn&#8217;t stay.  If they don&#8217;t go well, there&#8217;s no reason why we wouldn&#8217;t try to move him.</p>
<p>Either or, somehow, we&#8217;ll survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree.  He wasn&#039;t being overly optimistic at all.  60 wins would have been overly optimistic.  50 wins might actually happen.  

We&#039;re all familiar with the 3 tier structure of the Eastern conference.  It might be unrealistic to think we can finish with a better record than the Orlandos, the Bostons, and the Clevelands of the East, but it is not unrealistic whatsoever that we finish with a better record than the Atlantas, the Philidelphias, the Detroits, what have you.

I&#039;m not saying they WILL reach 50, but I am damn sure if things fall into place that they CAN do it.

Go Raps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree.  He wasn&#8217;t being overly optimistic at all.  60 wins would have been overly optimistic.  50 wins might actually happen.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re all familiar with the 3 tier structure of the Eastern conference.  It might be unrealistic to think we can finish with a better record than the Orlandos, the Bostons, and the Clevelands of the East, but it is not unrealistic whatsoever that we finish with a better record than the Atlantas, the Philidelphias, the Detroits, what have you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying they WILL reach 50, but I am damn sure if things fall into place that they CAN do it.</p>
<p>Go Raps!</p>
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