28 Jul 2009

An Early Look at the 2009-10 Toronto Raptors

So the Raptors roster has filled out pretty nicely over the offseason. The team has made several nice additions while losing very few key pieces. However, after an extremely disappointing 2008-09 season, and a few obvious weaknesses still remaining, it is still difficult to tell just how well the Raptors will do in 2009-10.

Ranking the offseason moves of all NBA teams, ESPN’s Chad Ford said of the Raptors, who rank 8th:

Although I don’t think these moves suddenly make the Raptors a serious contender, I do think they’re a playoff team. Given last year’s disaster, that’s pretty significant.

But the term ‘playoff team’ means very little in a top-heavy Eastern Conference. With the power balance shifting from the West to the East this past season (an article for another time, but rest assured it happened), playoff-bound could mean a first round exit for the Raptors. In the East, behind powerhouses like the Celtics, Cavaliers, and Magic, the goal for most teams now appears to be 4th place. Not only does 4th place mean home court advantage in the first round, but it also means missing a first round matchup with either of the three aforementioned Beasts of the East.

So the question for Raps’ fans maybe shouldn’t be about Delfino, DeRozan, or 2010 Chris Bosh. Maybe we, as a collective, should be working to figure out if the 4th seed is a realistic goal for this team.

Considering the changes that accrue for a roster as offseason roster and philosophy changes are made, here is a look at the current roster based on previous performance, with the hope being to shed some light on how the Raptors stack up against the Heat, Wizards, 76ers, Bulls, Hawks, and Pistons (with apologies to those other teams).

Marcus Banks: “Laughin’ Straight to the” Banks’ $4.46M contributions can be summed up in one word: Ugh. I’d be surprised if he gets off the Inactive List this season. Last year he had a 7.83 PER, and he’s never had a PER close to 15.00 (league average). Hey, at least we’re on the hook for another year at that price tag!

Andrea Bargnani: “Il Mago” was paid this offseason. Paid. To the tune of $10M per season. Like I said, paid. Bargnani will make $6.53M this year before that extension kicks in. Last year his PER became razor close to the league average 15.00 (14.66) but things really started to look up in the second half of 2008-09, to the tune of 19.4-5.4-1.7-0.6-1.7 (P-R-A-S-B) with a 49.3% shooting percentage, 45.7% from downtown. Those numbers are mouth-watering and well worth the new price tag if he can pick up his defense and rebounding to any degree at all.

Chris Bosh: Not a lot to say about CB4, but the implicit goal of 2009-10 is to do well enough that Bosh stays for 2010-11 and beyond. He may not be a superstar, but he’s definitely a top-level player. His contract sees him earn $15.78M this year, so he’ll need to repeat his 22.7-10.0 (P-R) and 22.19 PER, but his leadership role and demeanor will be the real attributes tested this season.

Jose Calderon: Jose’s efficiency is something all point guards should strive for – he’s lead the league in assist-to-turnover ratio two years in a row, and he’s developed into one of the league’s deadliest shooters with a 61.3% true shooting percentage. His 18.88 PER is more than fine for his $8.22M contract, and the addition of Jarrett Jack should help ease his workload and keep him on the floor for 82 games.

DeMar DeRozan: He who shall remain nickname-less (for now) has been covered by yours truly. As I wrote last week (in my RR debut), DeRozan doesn’t need to be a superstar this year, but he will need to contribute immediately.

Quincy Douby: Q-Dubs probably won’t see a lot of run for the Raps this year, barring injuries, but for $0.86M he has potential as an end-of-the-roster fill-in. He’s not very efficient for a scorer (48.6 TSP and 10.26 PER), but he’s a deadly free throw shooter and good enough to score in streaks as a 12th man.

Reggie Evans: Evans is a rebounding machine. He can’t score, he can’t pass, and he doesn’t do enough to keep himself on the floor for long stretches, but he is constantly among the league leaders in Rebounding Rate. He put up 12.7 Rebounds per 40 and grabbed 19% of total rebounds when he was on the floor last year (14th in the league), making him a more-than-serviceable 4th big man for $4.96M.

Devean George: At 31 years old and with declining minutes the past two years, George was really just a salary-match in the Turkoglu sign-and-trade. George scores very little but can add veteran leadership and adequate wing defense if asked to, but it seems more likely he’ll play the Darrick Martin role or be trade bait at $1.60M expiring.

Jarrett Jack: The J-A-Double R-E-Double T (aka Angel) was a bit overpriced at a $4.5M starting salary, but I’m positive he’ll be worth it. He is a great friend of Chris Bosh, a great community member, and a great backup at the one- and two-guard. His PER has never reached the league-average 15.00 but he is a decent shooter, a great free-throw shooter, and a strong two-position defender. His contributions will, strangely, be a byproduct of DeRozan’s, as Jack will spell Calderon at the point and Wright/DeRozan at the two. Regardless of the minutes or the position, Jack is a monster depth addition to a team that sorely needed it.

Patrick O’Bryant: You would think, having been a lottery pick, that Irish Kobe would show some signs of development three years into his career. He really hasn’t, and size appears to be his only discernible ’skill.’ Patty O is on the books for $1.62M, which can’t even be considered a bargain given that his salary would be better used bought out to clear room under the luxury tax line (or for, say, Notorious PMB aka Prince Daddy Whale Slayer aka Pops Mensah-Bonsu). Like Banks, it would be a surprise to see O’Bryant on the floor much this year.

Hedo (Hidayet) Turkoglu: Turk was the marquee acquisition for the Raptors this offseason, part of a four-team sign-and-trade, and will be the team’s second highest paid player behind Chris Bosh at roughly $10M per season. Turkoglu is a great offensive weapon, though not necessarily an efficient one with a PER of 14.82. For the Raps, though, his key attributes are floor spacing (38.5% career three point shooter), his flare for the crunch time (top-50 in Production per 48 Clutch Time Minutes), and his offensive versatility (a sterling Versatility Index of 7.6 last year). His fit with the team is not being questioned; it’s a question of earning his sizable contract over the long haul and helping move the Raptors from also-ran to contender.

Roko Ukic: Roko Leni Loco appears to be an odd man out this year. Like Banks and O’Bryant, it appears he’ll be a member of the Inactive All-Stars, the D-League, or another franchise. Ukic struggled mightily last year, thrust into a back-up role after Wo-So (In Case Y’Aint Know So) ate it and was shipped out, and didn’t look a great deal better in Summer League. Colangelo has agreed to look for a new home for him, otherwise, Roko is a $1.35M trade chip (he has a player option at $1.45M he may decline to return to Europe).

Antoine Wright: Wright was acquired in the Turkoglu deal. While he was perceived to be a throw-in, he’s a huge grab for the defensively challenged Raptors, as he can guard three positions and isn’t an offensive liability. At $2.11M expiring, Wright will be a huge part of the team as DeRozan insurance, a defensive stopper, and/or trade bait.

Rasho Nesterovic: Arsenalist did a great job summing up Rasho’s role on this team. His personality and leadership cannot be understated, and that goes double for his unintentional comedy. As the team’s 3rd or 4th big man, The Slovenian Superman is a great value at $1.9M, a necessary defensive and rebounding presence, and a lovable goofy white guy on the team that may soon be named Bosh and the Lovable Goofy White Guys.

The 15th Man: Contract or not, I’m just going to assume this is Carlos Delfino. Livin’ Good ‘Loso probably isn’t worth the $4M or $5M he’s asking for, but with the Raptors technically unable to spend that money elsewhere it makes sense to give it to him in a short-term contract. Delfino is versatile on offense and defense, continues the theme of floor-spacers who can create their own shot, and has hopefully been humbled by an unhappy year in Russia to the point of being coachable for Jay Triano.

The overall theme here is that the Raptors project as a much better team than last year. While they haven’t managed to cover up any of their defensive problems from last season….well, y’kno, sometimes guys like a girl with a fat ass. More cushion for the pushin’, after all. If that lost you – point is, it’s okay to be optimistic about a team with obvious flaws, especially when the unspoken goal is the 4th seed in the East.

The difference between 4th and 8th in the conference won’t be an extra player or a D-League find. More than likely, the onus falls to Jay Triano to get the most out of a 10-man rotation that is long on depth but short on a clear playing time hierarchy.

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  1. imran says:

    we’re spending a lot of money but still unlikely to make it out of the 1st round. Are we destined for mediocrity???

    • Hardcore Raps says:

      its tough now that 3 of the top 4 teams are in the East now. While the west seems more competetive from 2-8(or higher) the east has become very polarized. If the raps exit the first round by losing to Orlando, Boston or Cleveland I wouldn’t be to upset.

      • dfp says:

        Well if they do play the aformentioned team, I too wouldn’t be too sorely disappointed if they lost. That being said, I would be disappointed if they didn’t come out with energy and at least make the series competitive. Besides if Raps get the Magic, Celts, or Cavs in the first round, it doesn’t mean all is lost, anything can happen in the playoffs, it only takes a hot streak of 4 wins.

        • Hardcore Raps says:

          I agree… if they don’t compete in a series against them it would be a disappointment. And no not all is lost, besides a win streak and injury could surely change things aswell.

    • Raven Twelve says:

      Doomed to mediocrity would be high praise for an organization that regularly overspends into the lottery. After last season we must aspire to mediocrity.

    • Chris says:

      No only the leafs have that fate

  2. Our core of Bosh/Bargs/Turk/Jose/DD, if kept in tacked (with Bosh being the only one not signed long-term) could legitimately propel the Raps to true title contenders in the next 2-3 years.

    The future looks bright!

    • RYE says:

      Yes I think over the next 2 years we should be concentrating on getting good playoff experience with the goal of competing for the finals in 3/4 years.

    • carter the dog says:

      in tacked? seriously?

  3. j bean says:

    Considering nine of these players are not white I don’t get your ‘joke’ about Bosh and the white guys. Anyway I agree that Triano will be responsible for getting the most out of this very nice lineup. There are a lot of options so there could be a few different looks than what we are assuming at this stage, especially when injuries take their toll.

    • Cassady says:

      But 3 of the 4 unquestioned starters are white guys, how many other NBA teams can you say that about?

      It’s almost like a bunch of Jamaican dudes in a bobsled: funny shit!

  4. Dan says:

    IS it just me, or if Hedo really the Turkish Harry Connick Junior? Take a look folks, seperated at birth!

    • Biff says:

      Hedo looks like Sloth from Goonies. Good thing his game isn’t so ugly! But seriously he has a crazy weird shaped head.

      • Azko says:

        I think he looks like a dinosaur; well, not as bad as Bosh but pretty ugly nonetheless…
        fitting though; he is after all a Raptor

  5. Cassady says:

    Good summary reading, and I like the use of the non-conventional, less obtainable statistics.

    About the playoff picture: today Steve Nash resigned with the Suns and said he wasn’t worried about jumping a playoff bandwagon ’cause “you never know what’s going to happen.”

    I liken that to the Raps; we’ve built something pretty good, and instead of being overly paranoid about what they’re doing in Boston, we should be confident about we have.

  6. Mohammad Ali says:

    Chris Bosh is a great player , I love his skills and the way he carries himself but is he a legit superstar, 9 out of 10 times when he has the ball at buzzer he chokes,I still remember Game 2 in Orlando, playoffs 2 years back, we could have stolen Home court advantage and that series would have become relevant if he didn’t choke, I have atleast 4 to 5 more examples. I dont think it will be the end of the world if he even leaves.Detroit did not have a superstar but they won a championship in the recent past because they had 6 to 7 guys that were that good right. Perhaps we need to add 2 boarder line all stars for 10 million each instead of paying him 20. Add depth and versitality. Having said this he is a great player but not a franchise player.

    • nadir says:

      He hasn’t performed well in games when it mattered most that be true. But it could be argued there has not been anything worthwhile here to begin with. If there is a supporting cast now, he won’t have any excuses. And if he goes up against the guy on the green team and still can’t do it, it’s done. But wouldn’t it be really exciting if he can? That would indicate something truly special.

    • Macy O'Baston says:

      The difference between Detroit & Raps: Pistons crunch time guys were wings that you can run off screens, take it to the hole, spot up and shoot, or pull up.

      Bosh is a 6′10 PF who is given the ball 20 feet from the basket (after their piss poor pick’n'rolls that never opened up a good look) and told to score.

      Who’s in a better position, the guards or the forward/centre? San Antonio, with the greatest PF ever, didn’t win any titles that way but fans expect the Raps to win that way.

  7. Mohammad Ali says:

    I hope Raptors learn to be consistent which they were not last year. I also hope they learn not to blow away leads like they did last year. They were not able to close properly.

  8. Biff says:

    My personal biggest problem when trying to take a look at the prospects of the 2009-10 season is having watched the majority of the Raptor games last year and feeling like the team (the entire team) would give up after the first quarter and try again in the 4th. This has nothing to do with their current prospects, but it has tainted my view of the team for the coming season.

    Realistically alot has changed, and this article illustrates that by breaking down the players on the team. I just can’t get the image of a team sulking on the court, and laughing it up on the bench during a blow out loss (and there were quite a few) out of my head.

    I think (assuming we retain Bosh) with the core pieces in place now the prospects of the Raptors being eastern conference contenders largely hinges on the development of two players. One player has shown us some development, Andrea Bargniani; although consistency is an issue it will hopefully be something he proves this year with consisten starters minutes. The other player is DeMar DeRozan if he can be a difference maker within a couple seasons I believe the Raptors have a legitimate shot at contending in the east.

    • RYE says:

      You are right and I agree. I don’t condon it but we can’t overlook the likelyhood that the players checked out on the season very early on. Their motivation was gone and frustration was high. A new season, with new players and new hopes and expectations will hopefully change the bad attitudes. A strong start will be imperative!

      • Biff says:

        “A new season, with new players and new hopes and expectations will hopefully change the bad attitudes. A strong start will be imperative!”

        Thats pretty much what I was getting at, I do hope and believe the Raptors will have a good amount of success this comming season.

    • FAQ says:

      This year’s roster will again have two entirely new players at starting positions .. Hedo and DeDe(?) .. at SF and SG. These are two crucial positions on any team that aspires to the playoffs.

      We know what to expect from Hedo, but after that it’s uncertain.

      We don’t know if DeDe will fly or crash in the NBA, and after him we have proven failures .. or at most average to below average players.

      So when 40% of your starting lineup is new players, you can’t assume there will be instant team play against NBA competition… because the players must jell .. like jell-o.

      • Biff says:

        And conversely 60% of our starting lineup will be returning players, yet I believe the overhaul of the bench will play a greater role in the Raptors success. Hopefully this coming seasons we don’t see a great drop off in the level of play from our second unit players as we did last year.

        I’d just like to see a more consistent effort over 48 minutes from the entire team. That’s what I meant in my original post about disappearing for the middle quarters of a game.

  9. Great, great post. The fourth seed is definitely something to aspire to. It’ll be tough, though. The Bulls (if coached right), the Wizards (if healthy), and the Heat (if they get Odom) should be right there with us. The Pistons and Sixers are wildcards, too.

  10. Raven Twelve says:

    The difference between charming imperfections on guys like Hedo or Harry Connick and side show freaks like Sloth is talent which in turn breeds success. There’s a reason Sloth was chained to the bench…

    I kill me.

  11. sam says:

    its ppg not per and banks never got 7.8 ppg last ear he had 2.8 and u dont knw nuthin about basketball causea league average isnt 15 ppg not all starters get that and if ur a bench and get 15 ppg ur pretty good

  12. Silverback says:

    Shaq showed up on WWE Raw last night. What’s going on with that guy? Has he officially crossed over into the Dennis Rodman zone? This is not a good sign for LeBron and the Cavs. I’m not impressed with their off season moves.

  13. j bean says:

    Regarding Bosh being a superstar who can raise the level of play around him, he has only demonstrated that for short stints during the season and not in the playoffs. How many of the top teams would trade their best player for Chris Bosh? That being said, this year is the best supporting cast he has had and Chris may be competing just to be the best player on the Raptors. But we have all seen players have career years during the last year of a contract and I’m predicting that Chris has his best year this season and that throughout his prime [which he is just entering]he becomes regarded as a superstar!

    • pablo says:

      Bosh hasn’t had the opportunity to be a superstar until this season. How many PF superstars can you name that have been on a team where they are the only one who should have the ball at crunch time? I think the Raps will be able to create a system where Bosh can get his points and rebounds at allstar level without the shame of always having to be the one missing a tough shot at the buzzer and losing the game. I don’t think he has the personality to thrive as the only great player on a team. Perhaps this year he’ll have enough help and it won’t be so lonely for him.

    • Sleepz says:

      How many of these teams wouldn’t?

      Has Chris ever had a talented group to play with? When he was arguably surrounded by some mid-tier talent they won their division.

      Everyone loves to question Bosh and his clutch play, or making players better around him but the facts remain he’s 25 and if this is his body of work over the last 4-5 years in the league I would like to think the next 4-5 are going to be even better once he gets tougher (needs more playoff experience and heartache) and his body takes on more mass due to age.

      And the naysayers that say he’s ‘peaked’? I like guys on my team that peak and keep on dropping 20 and 10 year after year.

  14. devyl says:

    i think bosh needs to become more intense, ala kevin garnet. as good as he is nobody is afraid of him defensivly, no stars i mean, avergage players dont wanna d him up, but when it comes to the good teams he needs to be THAT GUY. havin turk and bargs spread the middle should help him out but if DD has a ROY season we could be very dangerous

    oh ya lol at the shaq comment

  15. bearvon says:

    nice write up…

    those bargnani ppg and shooting #s for the second half are INSANE! i didnt realize last year that he was shooting that well in the second half…

    if he can improve rebounding/help d this team will win an extra 5 games at least…

    and whos to say he’s peaked offensively?

  16. FAQ says:

    Triano and staff’s biggest challenge will be to mould this bunch of disparate players into a functioning ‘team’ … not dependent on one all-star, franchise player to pull them out of the shit.

    IOW, this bunch of multi-millionaires will have to improve their bball IQ, instead of just living la dolce vita and not busting their butts and working their brainlets to the utmost.

    If Triano fails to provide the coaching necessary to achieve lots of wins by Xmas, he will be gonezo .. and BC will be on the trade trail again .. believe it.

  17. devyl says:

    bargs bargs bargs, i cant even call him discoUNT dirk anymore with this ridiculous contract, but maybe this is his year to step up, now that he’s gettin paid like dirk maybe we will see a lil flare in his game. is 7-8 rebounds with maybe 2 blocks a night, is that to much for a (#1 pick) 7 footer?

    • yertu damkule says:

      technically, ‘now’ he’s on the same contract he was last year, and will make a little under $7M this season (i think). the extension kicks in after this upcoming season.

    • Seeten says:

      Important to note he blocked 1.25 shots per game year, which isn’t a bad number, considering the way people were waved through to the rim by our perimeter guys.

      Bargnani isn’t as bad defensively as everyone seems to believe. Even his PnR defense isn’t *that* bad, when Calderon was keeping people in front of him, Bargnani was very noticeably improved.

    • Macy O'Baston says:

      Dirk’s getting paid $20M this upcoming season, 3x what Bargs is getting. Do you consider him twice the player Bargnani is?

      I guess 45% from 3 isn’t enough flare for you. You want some more flare then go to Chochkie’s.

    • DanH says:

      OK – couldn’t stand it:

      flare = an outward spreading shape; eg a flare gun

      flair = natural talent

  18. Rig says:

    In order for the Raps to be contenders, Bosh needs to shave his hair, grow a 4 inch goatee, lose another 5 1st round games and bait Calderon every time he doesn’t penetrate.

  19. devyl says:

    “If Triano fails to provide the coaching necessary to achieve lots of wins by Xmas, he will be gonezo .. and BC will be on the trade trail again .. believe it.”

    oh so very true

  20. Steve says:

    The good news in the East is the big 3 can become the big 2 real fast. Maybe Boston gets another year out of its aging, injury prone stars and maybe they don’t. But there is no long term with the Celtics and they have won 1, they might be done!
    And anyone who doesn’t think that is enough is nuts! A great gamble to win it all that worked.

    And the Celtics looking to Sheed as their key back-up when things go off the rails is an enormous risk – Looks like everyone forgot just how bad he can be when things don’t go his way – Conference finals vs Cleveland, Sheed didn’t just stop playing, he actually disrupted his team to the point where they couldn’t play either. Maybe he grows up now? But that’s a huge leap of faith!

    Right now, just looking forward to a great season for the Raps. Just make the playoffs baby! Anyone who can’t be happy with a real shot at post-season play after last year needs to give their head a shake!

    • FAQ says:

      Stop fantacizing about the playoffs!!!

      What do you think will happen in the first 25 games of the schedule?

      Will this bunch of disparate players jell into a team or will Mr. Max Money just go off on his own to pad his stats for the 2010 contract bazaar???

      • Marc says:

        Was “jell” on your word of the day calender for the past month?

        • FAQ says:

          If the new edition Ratpors don’t “jell” quickly, they will become “slops” … and then the tribal honking fans will hit the fan.

          • Hardcore Raps says:

            I would say tribal honking fans will keep honking…. cause thats what we do. We love our team…. honk honk!

            • Marc says:

              Honk X 2

              • CalibreMC says:

                Honk Honk Honk X3

              • FAQ says:

                Tribal honking fans wear their CB4 jersey to bed .. and then jerk off while fantacizing they can slam dunk … LOL

                Btw … you don’t “love” a team … you love women … but you tribal honking nerds don’t have women … just a CB4 jersey and shoes.

  21. devyl says:

    why didnt we at least TRY to get someone like avery jonhson, he coached dirk and harris, he knew how to get the most out of his team, we should have tried b4 fully giving the keys to triano

  22. devyl says:

    you think garnett will actually let him pull that shit in boston? no way, besides he respects the big 3 to much as well as doc rivers to try that again, look for him to fit in well in boston. starting or coming of the bench (witch he said he would do) he makes them so dangerous. who wants to go to the buckets and u got KG and Sheed in your face probably talking shit to you, could get under let intense players skin. we seen that b4 with KG and jose

    • Hardcore Raps says:

      I’m pretty sure Rasheed is one person KG can’t ‘control’. The league can’t do it, the refs can’t do it, coaches can’t do it, hell Rasheed can barely keep himself under control.

      that said… he has calmed down significantly from his early years. I think he’s a good fit in Boston aswell, but age can really bite players in the ass (and for big men quite often the knees).

  23. Toronto4Ever says:

    Nice article Blake, this gives me info on about 1-2 players I didn’t know about. Thanks.

  24. BlogMaster AD says:

    what about derozan, i love the kids game, but in his 1st year being thrown into the starting lineup is kinda a BIG gamble, i think alot of the raps success will be based on how efficient he is, and how well he is able to contribute. im not sayin 20 ppg but remember how much bargs helped in his rookie year, we need something simlular to that.. i know his dunks will be enough for TO to love him cuz we always fall in love with the average players that come here, but hopefully this guy gives us that extra energy and can knock down his jumpers, and he should have a few with the floor split up

    • Hardcore Raps says:

      I’d rather the raps take a chance and use him as a starter (atleast for a good stretch of the season). I’ve really noticed how much better young players develop when not only given minutes but also a starting role. Showing faith in your players will build their confidence…. and confidence goes alot further in sports than almost any ability.

  25. BlogMaster AD says:

    and everyone is forgettin about ATL for that 4th spot in the east

    • Marc says:

      They’ll be in the hunt for sure. 4-8 is up for grabs. Hell, even the Bucks might be able to squeeze in to the playoffs.

      The East will be very interesting this year.

      • Macy O'Baston says:

        THE BUCKS???

        I know that Ridnour-Redd-Bowen-Gadzuric-Bogut lineup looks terrible but believe me, it’s much worse. They won 34 games last year and traded their best player.

  26. Mike D says:

    Despite all of the movement, I do not think our starting line-up will end up producing much more for us than they did last year. I do, however, think our bench will be much, much better. Having Hedo shoot instead of Bosh in the last few minutes of the game will mean a few more wins for us, and not having Roko or Solomon on the floor will definitely mean more wins. So on paper, this looks to me like a .500 team with a .400 coach at the helm. Count us coming in somewhere between 6th and 9th.

    My great hope is that we do not resign Bosh to the max this off-season and Bargnani emerges as the teams primary offensive force – thereby making Bosh expendable. In my mind, we cannot build a contending team around a maxed out CB4. If we have Andrea at 10 million per for the next 5 years and we do not resign Bosh, we will have 20 million to go after other guys. This would be the way forward, in my view. Chances of this paragraph becoming reality….15%.

    • Sleepz says:

      So let Bosh walk and they become a better team? Interesting.

      • Sleepz says:

        and not interesting in a good way either.

        • Mike D says:

          I think I expressed the idea was to use the Bosh money to get other guys. And then become a better team.

          • sleepz says:

            Which players? Better players than him or a collection of lesser talents? Temas usually end up on the worse end of a deal when they trade the best player in the deal for a ‘collection’ of other players thinking they will now be deeper or a better team?

            Who would he be traded for that would make us a better team? If you are like other fans that think trading Bosh for Randolph and Biedrins and whatever other filler makes us a better team immediately or in the future, I think you will be in for some dissapointment folks!

          • sleepz says:

            Who would you then sign to make us a bettr team?

            unless you can get a top tier guy like Wade I’d rather continue to invest in a top-tier big man who hasn’t hit his peak yet.

            • Mike D says:

              Not really sure who to go after – Ideally I’d like a Hedo type player making 8 mill and a Gasol type player making 12. Probably not realistic, but whatever. I do know that you cannot compete with the elite teams salary cap wise when they are getting Lebron for the Max and we are getting Bosh. Bosh and a collection of garbage will get you 30 wins, while Lebron surrounded by garbage will win 50. Its like the Clevelands and Miami’s of the world are getting twice the value for the same money. The only way we can compete in the absence of such great players is to make up the difference on players 2-12 on the roster. We have to make smart signings at these positions to compensate for the fact that Tim Duncan or Kobe Bryant did not fall into our laps. That’s how we compete. If we sign Bosh for the same Cleveland signs Lebron for, we’ll never leapfrog them in the salary cap era. They’re simply getting way more for their money.

    • FAQ says:

      +1

    • ABRapsFan says:

      Mike D I think you are right. Bosh signed to a max deal would be a bad thing. Something awesome could be a sign and trade with New York. They get Bosh and/or POB/MoneyBanks and we get David Lee (I saw him speak highly of Triano on the score today) and Danilo Gallinari (isn’t he Italian?) in a sign and trade. Maybe we also get someone like Wilson Chandler to match saleries. No one else on the Knicks is even remotely attractive. haha. This would be half of the puzzle for the knicks too.

  27. Noah says:

    I really wish the raps would resign Pops. He was my favorite player last year.

  28. Andrew says:

    Hey how come there’s no mention of Pops Mensah-Bonsu? Does this mean he won’t be resigned? He gave the Raptors a huge boost last year.

    • Jdbar says:

      Probably not…no roster spot for him, since O’Bryant/banks aren’t going anywhere.

    • Arsenalist says:

      I feel we should waive O’Bryant and sign Pops to a one-year deal where he’ll be motivated to play. O’Bryant is useless and Pops is a much more mobile center than Rasho and could form a good partnership with Reggie Evans who he could also learn from.

      I know it sounds ridiculous by Pops could be a very valuable member of this team if his head is right and he’s getting the right instruction/mentorship from his teammates. Sign him.

      • BlogMaster AD says:

        i agree, we do always fall in love with the most untalented players, but pops is pure energy, something we’ve lacked for years

  29. Jog says:

    Actually when you lay it all out like that, that looks like a damn fine roster to me.

    The boys are back in town!

  30. Simon says:

    The awkward limerick nickname routine should probably be put to an end after this column. You’re like Paul Rudd in ‘I Love You, Man’.

    “Later Pistol”
    “See you later … Jobin”
    “Jobin?”
    “Fuck, I don’t even know man”

  31. spirow says:

    Honestly some of these american comentators are a bunch of idiots. . . They never give toronto credit when needed. . . He has us as the 8th playoff team? okay granted that boston and cavs are at the top and then even put orlando there but then after that who do u you put? Miami? who made no improvements so far to make their team better this off season. . . Bulls? who could grab a playoff spot forsure. . . Wizards? who will have a better season this year and expect them to make the playoffs. . . Toronto needs to make some noise and the world know that T DOT ain’t soft! straight up!

  32. k1dcanada says:

    wheres pops fit

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