There was some talk in the last couple of days that Carlos Delfino had rejected a 4M/yr contract offer from the Raptors who he hoped would add one million to the deal. The rumors began when Olé, one of the most prestigious sports newspaper in Argentina, published this article. It is translated by our good friend Raúl Ruscitti.
Right now Delfino is much more likely to return to Russia than to come back to the best league in the world. About his participation in the upcoming World Championship Qualifications, “It’s very difficult” Hernandez (Argentinian National Team head coach) said. Toronto didn’t make the offer he was expecting and in Russia he has a huge contract.
It’s cold and it gets even colder every time. His participation with the National Team isn’t expected but, the clock is playing against him. The same happens with his situation with the NBA that has been freeze in the last hours. Today, Delfino is more likely to be out of both than in. It’s a shame for the National Team and for Carlos who really wanted to come back to the best league in the world.
Goodbye NBA? Delfino didn’t like that Toronto, who at first showed interest in bringing him back because they remember his performance from the bench in the 07/08 season, left him as their last target of the market. They still haven’t offered him a reasonable contract. Khimky, where he is under contract for the next two years, pays him about 10 millions dollars, plus a house, a car (with a driver), and less taxes. Carlos was hoping that the Raptors offered him 5 millions per year. He doesn’t mind take half the salary he was earning in Europe and paid his buyout clause of $500,000 with his own money, but they offered less. Sources around him said that there are some other teams interested in him but none of their contract proposals satisfy him. Khimky already signed a good PG tandem (Raúl Lopez and Carlos Cabezas) and just in case, agree to add an American SG (Keith Langford), expecting him for their EuroLeague debut.
Goodbye National Team? Sources aren’t optimistic either about his presence in Puerto Rico “If he stays in Khimky, it’s even more difficult because the team wants him to rest and recover from his shoulder injury… They haven’t even sent the airplane tickets for him to travel to Italy to make a medical test so we can know how his injury is healing”. Sergio Hernandez knows this “I talked to him two days ago and he told me that it’s still unknown. But I count him inn. He has time until the 24th” the national team head coach explained. The setback on subjects like his future and his injury really bothers him. “He told me that his shoulder still bothers him, even when he goes out to run”… He could be a very important loss to the team, but they still have hope.
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$5M for an injured reserve? He may be worth $3M, but there will probably be some better value for players as we get further out into free agency.
Nevermind Delfino. His heart isn’t in it. Bring in Von wafer.
I agree. We probably need a big man- Rasho or Glen Davis, Davis would be perfect at centre of the bench (he can shoot the ball, rebound, takes up room in the paint). Screw Delfino, hes way too expensive.
Glen Davis and Reggie Evans as the only big men off the bench to get real minutes? They’re both listed at 6′8. Remember Miami’s trouble last year with a tiny frontcourt? What we need is a big body who can somewhat hold their own against the bruisers like Shaq, Howard, Yao, etc so Bargs doesnt get killed all night with them….
An Eric Dampier type? Where is Shawn Bradley when you need him?
Why are we even debating bring in Oliver Miller….er… Glen Davis when he’s a restricted free agent on a team who has said they claimed they will retain him for anything reasonable, nevermind that our capspace doesnt exist for such a signing…. ditto for Kleiza & Denver.
buddy you couldn’t have said it better Von Wafer would be a great idea!!!
I really like this insight Raptors Republic is getting from Raul into the Carlos Delfino situation.
If the Raps choose to roll the dice with DeRozan, Wright, 2Pac2, and occasionally Jack at the 2, I personally don’t think that would be the end of the world. I am very interested in seeing what Wright and DeRozan can do at the SG spot for the Raps…plus Douby seems hell bent on sticking in the NBA, and it seems that he has recognized that it is now or never time. It’s good to have desperate players.
Delfino would be a nice piece, sure, but I think you can only over pay so many guys before it comes back to bite you.
If the Raps get Jack and bring back Rasho and call it a day, they have had a very good off season.
Delfino for 5 ??? Do u think that is a good deal ?
Delfino for 5 is bad. It would create a situation where too many players are overpaid on the Raps. If Delfino is only willing to accept 5 at a minimum, the Raps should forget it. I think taking starting the season with DeRozan, Wright, Douby and Jack (part time basis) at the SG is fine.
“2Pac2″ HAHA nice!
comparing what he’d make in a real league against the ridiculous contract he got from khimky is just stupid – i doubt there’s a team in the league other than the raps who would offer him close to what they did, let alone what he thinks he ‘deserves.’ really, carlos? what have you EVER done in the league that suggests you’re worth even half of what the raps have offered? seriously, get over yourself. if he wants to play in the NBA, he has to realize he’s not gonna get near what he got in russia…and if that’s a problem then stay the fuck there. i think most would rather have kleiza anyway (esp. since douby is looking like a potential rotation player, and they look likely to nab jack). whether they can get him for what they have left (if they do, indeed, acquire jack) remains to be seen, considering they’re still looking at frontcourt options as well.
If we write off Carlos…
And assume Jack is signed for max raises at exactly 20 M over 4 years (to free up as much of the MLE as possible this year)…
Then:
MLE = $5.854 M
Jack = $4.439 M (+4.793/5.177/5.591 = 20M over 4 years)
Leaves: 1.415 MLE, 1.99 LLE
So: does Kleiza come for 1.415 for one year? Or perhaps a 5 year, $8.3M (1.66 per) contract?
Or do we low-ball Rasho with the 1.415M per year (2.943 over 2 years), and hope Kleiza signs for the LLE (1.99M for one year, or 4.139M for 2 years)?
Since the vet min is ~1.2M (IIRC), these seem to be the best two options.
Would Rasho come for ~1.5M per? Would Kleiza come for either option?
Also, feel free to substitute any desired free agent’s name into the above calculations – if say you want Barnes instead of Kleiza, the same restrictions will apply.
I’m pretty sure that if the Raps sign Jack, the chances of signing Kleiza are minimal.
As much as Kleiza may want to be in TO, he’s an RFA and Denver has the right to match – which they likely will since they have shown interest at keeping him at the right price.
Barnes Baby !!!!!
Forget Delfino. What I’d offer him is getting lower by the minute. I’m actually now off the Delfino wagon since Douby is playing better and seems to have some desire to play in this league. I’d give whatever we can manage to Matt Barnes now. He played for 800K last year and seems destined to go for about the same or a little more this year. We can offer him the remaining portion of the MLE and the opportunity for playing time as backup SF. I’m not a Kleiza fan but if he can be had on the VERY cheap somehow, just like Barnes, then he’d be a decent 3/4 sub.
We NEED a backup centre—big baby all the way
Let’s not get too aroused by anything that happens in summer league. I remember a year ago when Marco Belinelli was going to light up the NBA.
Doug Smith piped in saying that it is simply a financial negotiation and typical of contract talks. He presumes there is a middle ground that might be reached.
In other words, he is really saying…. I don’t have a fricken clue, and my sources are drying up while I am on vacation and I am really pissed off. Where is that God Damned waitress with my drink.
LMFAO
You wonder if Delfino’s versatility to fill in at the 1 and 2 spots is more redundant now with Douby’s play. I think the Raps would be better off going after Kleiza, who is more of 2-3-4 player (as opposed to Delfino’s 1-2-3). And the offer to Jack is really handcuffing the Raps, its way too much. Jack and Douby are also somewhat redundant as well, although we need Jack as a solid backup to the PG position.
The Raps should have gone after a cheap vet for the backup PG (e.g. Anthony Carter), then had most of the MLE to sign a guy like Kleiza or Barnes. Then they could throw the LLE at Rasho.
Disagree.
Jack is a great move.
Seeing as he can play both guard postions you could realistically go with mainly a 3 guard rotation of Jose/Jack/Derozan (asuming Derozan is ready to be a solid rotation player)
Jack is a very good player and we needed help at the 1 and the 2 and Jack can help us at both and is a good defender (something this team needs more then anything is PG defence)
We still have options and they are still some players left. Every one is all crazy for Big Baby but I would rather take Leon Powe on the celts over Davis. Despite the injury concern as I could see Powe being a great first big of the bench over Reggie Evans who I would rather see as the 4th/5th big with Rasho.
GO RAPS!
That’s right I said it Leon Powe.
I love his game…
If we do keep Jack, I’d rather more depth at 3 like Barnes or Kleiza than another 1-2 in Delfino. That would mean more minutes for the rook and more rest for Big Turk.
The more I think about it, I bet BC, not Delfino, is holding up the deal until Tuesday. If we sign Jack, Delfino will be the fourth or fifth guard: 2 years, 6 million, or not at all. If the Pacers match, Delfino becomes the third guard and will get some of Jack’s money: 3 years, 15 million.
I would like to see the Raptors sign Jack, Rasho (2 years, 4-5 million), and Barnes (1 year, whatever we can over the minimum).
You are probably right.
Very astute observation. If we have Jack as backup PG, then Delfino is not needed as much. At that point, if Jack is a Raptor, we could use a slashing/rebounding wing like Barnes. What a lot of people on this site are forgetting or do not understand, is that just because Bosh, Bargs and Turk start, doesn’t mean they will all sit at the same time. The offence will always run through one of them, so the second unit would need players to compliment them. Plus, you will never find a scoring SF for minimal money. Not gonna happen. And we need to address rebounding from the wings and Barnes would do that.
Thoughts?
If we get Jack, I don’t see the minutes for Delfino unless the rook can’t play. Hopefully rook’s minuutes will increase as the season progresses and he’ll be playing 20-25m by the end of the season. Calderon, DeRosen, Jack and Wright is a good 4-man guard rotation.
I don’t really like Delfino (6′6), DeRosen (6′7) or Wright (6′7) playing much time at SF. I’d rather Barnes (and George) because of his size (6′8), toughness and shooting for 10-12 minutes a night.
No D George he is so done….
George is done? Ok, well, I don’t think Barnes is coming, so after Hedo we have Wright and Derozan. I think they both will have trouble with bigger 3s.
By “one of the most prestigious sports newspaper (sic) in the country” I presume you mean Argentina? You never established…
Yes, that’s what i meant, sory for that
1: Calderon, Douby, Jack, Roko
2: DeRozan, Douby, Jack, Wright
3: Hedo, DeRozan, George
4: Bosh, Evans, Bargs
5: Bargs, O’Bryant
I didn’t include Banks, because, well, he sucks or players we haven’t signed (other than Jack).
From this it’s obvious that we need a 3 and a 5. DElfino is more of a two which we have the most of and personally I think he is a third option to DeRozan and Wright. Wright because he doesn’t jack up ill called for shots so the shot-dominant front court would get more opportunity, and DeRozan because he has a higher ceiling (by far) and needs burn to get better.
Douby is the question mark IMHO. If he can continue to make shots like he did at the end of the Bucks game, than he could be the surprise of our roster much like Pops was at the end of last year
I agree. I’d now go with Barnes and Rasho if possible. I’d say your lineup combos are good but I’d also put Bosh in at C at times for a smaller lineup.
Douby over jack?….are you high?
At this point I’d like to see this:
1: Calderon, Jack, Douby, Roko, Banks
2: DeRozan, Wright, Jack, Douby
3: Hedo, DeRozan, Barnes, Wright, George
4: Bosh, Evans, Hedo, Bargs
5: Bargs, Rasho, Bosh, O’Bryant
This starting lineup can avg 80+ points. Surely that bench could get us 20+ extra points….which ain’t not bad.
like previous years, i’m more concerned with defense then putting up points.
also, i don’t know if douby is ahead of roko ont he depth chart at point. the guy has been having a great summer league…but really, the investment in the pg spot is on roko, not douby.
There hasn’t been much investment in either, really. Roko’s been around for an extra 1/2 season, big deal. They’ll both likely be gone after this season anyways.
Roko’s 24. He’s not young. Let’s get out of the mindset that he needs time to develop. This team is built to win, not ween crappy players along (like when Jose was new to the league). The best players should be playing, and I expect that to include Derozan off the bench.
JYD is high on some “Back from the grave Tupac” weed. It most be the skankiest skunk, to believe just cause Douby is proving he belongs a spot on the team, that he is higher than Jarrett Jack in the Raptors rotation. Are you serious Q over Jack, the guy who was averaging about 20 points for the second half of last season in the REAL NBA not the scrub summer league?
Why not look into players like Matt Barnes or Marquis Daniels…either would get the job done, and for cheaper..
delfino wants a million dollars more ? no way . let him rot in desperate housewives !
I fully expect Denver to match any offer up to the MLE for Kleiza,so I think it’s a moot point discussing him, assuming the Jack signing goes through.
I don’t really like Barnes either, as he’s more of the rugged rebounder type,not a scorer. With Rasho (likely) and Evans already on the 2nd unit, we need to get some scoring from the SF position, to compliment Jack and DeRozan (assuming Wright will start at SG for his defence).
If Delfino doesn’t come back and Jack is indeed signed for most of the MLE, one player I think the Raps should make a run at is C.J. Miles from Utah (BC was rumored to be interested in him when all the pre-draft rumors were circulating). He’s basically 3rd on their SF depth chart behind Harpring & Kirilenko, and Utah is definitely in cost-cutting mode in order to pay Milsap. Maybe BC could offer Utah Ukic & George for Miles; Ukic could backup Deron Williams at PG and George would either be waived or included in any Boozer trade, saving Utah $2.35M (Miles $3.7M – Ukic $1.35M = $2.35M)
I like any minor 2-for-1 deal for the Raps, as it opens another roster spot for BC to resign Mensah-Bonsu as well.
I still fail to see the reason why we care about bringing Pops back. I love his energy, I love the fact the fans like him, but it stops there. Short of bringing him back and putting him in a suit for 70 games and using him as an insurance policy, I can’t see him bringing anything to this team worthy of 10-12min for every game.
I agree that he’s not going to play 10-12 mins a game, but I like that he gives us a more athletic option at the backup PF spot, alongside Evans. Against certain teams or in certain lineup configurations, I could see him getting as much time as Evans, based on matchups.
Say the Raps find a way to open a spot for him, by getting rid of Banks/George/O’Bryant, then they sign Jack & Rasho and resign Delfino. I envision this 12-man lineup, being able to matchup against any team in the NBA:
PG: Calderon, Jack, Ukic
SG: Wright, Delfino
SF: Turkoglu, DeRozan
PF: Bosh, Evans, Mensah-Bonsu
C: Bargnani, Nesterovic
The reason you sign Pops (besides he will be relatively cheap) is when the team is down or playing poorly you through him in for some energy. He is a momentum builder, ball chaser and rebounder. He doesn’t need to score often… he just needs to grab that ball and run the floor.
Right now we do not have an energy guy (again)… Pops did a great job filling that role last year.
I agree about Kleiza but I think you are wrong about Barnes. He can score every bit as well as Delfino or Kleiza.
u tube Matt Barnes,he can bring it…
I agree, Barnes IS a scorer that can also rebound and defend. He is a good spot up shooter that would mix well with Jack for the drive and kick on the second unit.
And I don’t think Denver will go anywhere near the MLE for Kleiza.
I remember when I first noticed Matt Barnes, I was like that dude plays with heart and determination. That is the kind of guy I would like to have on my team. A guy who gets after it. So I say screw it, why not, let’s dump negotiations and try for Barnes instead of Delfino. I know you are reading this Bryan Colangelo. You listened to “The Fruitman” and it broughth fruit, so why not listen to the fans. I think the consensus on this page is clear, Carlos Delfino is not worth 5 million for this year, probably not even 4 million, especially if he is gonna sit out injured for any period of this season, which is highly probable. So get on the horn, call up Barnes’ agent and see if they are interested.
Yea I like your thinking. But how about BC offers Utah George and Banks for miles, then Utah moves Banks and Boozer to Miami who said they have some interest in him. Pull another three teamer. This way everyone is happy and the Raps get rid of the 4 Million Dollar Carcass.
Nice idea, not too sure how anxious Miami is to have Banks back though. That would be hilarious however.
Just because Bosh, Bargs and Turk start, doesn’t mean they will all sit at the same time. The offence will always run through one of them, so the second unit would need players to compliment them. Plus, you will never find a scoring SF for minimal money. Not gonna happen. And we need to address rebounding from the wings and Barnes would do that.
Plus, if the Rap’s planned on bringing back Pops, then why isn’t he playing in the summer league? The guy is a one trick pony. Has no shot, and once defences figured him out last year, he had a lot of shots blocked. Remember?
Why not Marquis Daniels then? He scores n rebounds..
Once Jack signs, the Raps have no money for him. I don’t see any way possible that he signs a contract under $1.99M, which is all we could offer him. There are bound to be lots of other teams that would be willing to pay him more than that.
Daniels’s 3-point percentage last year was .200.
BC ain’t going to sign anyone that was involved in a shooting
Before Raps offered Jack 5 mil a year they had about $12 mil to spend including exceptions. Once Jack signs and he will, they should have about $7 mil left if they choose to spend it all.
I think it’s too early to consider Delfino a goner… Doug Smith actually made a good point – it’s not rare for players to say they’re disappointed in an offer. If we’re only talking about a $1 million difference, a compromise may still be reached.
He’s stated he wants to play in the NBA and wants to play in a system that plays “European style” basketball like the Raptors or Knicks. I still think we have a shot, here.
If losing him means giving his minutes to Quincy Douby, I really hope he comes back.
Quite honestly I’m tired of hearing the term Euro Style…I just want a player that wants to be here…I dont think we should be blowing anybody to play here….if Carlos wants to get stroked stay home !!!
Even 4 millions is too much in this Market for Delfino.
Calgary, why would you start Wright? Delfino probably isn’t coming unless we raise his contract.. which I wouldn’t. The rest looks fine..
You should check Tim Chisholm’s article on TSN about this, he did a great job laying out all the reasons:
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/Tim_Chisholm/?id=284469
To summarize:
Bosh, Bargnani, Turkoglu and Calderon all need to get the ball a lot and don’t give the Raps a ton of defense. The ideal starting SG should be a player who’s good defensively, doesn’t demand the ball, won’t take stupid shots, won’t turn the ball over and has veteren savvy. Wright fits this description very well – similar player to Dahntay Jones and the role he played in Denver last year, by shutting down openents’ SG and letting Melo and Billups control the offense.
DeRozan – too much pressure put on him in starting role and he needs time to learn the system, especially on the defensive end… also, he’ll likely be the backup SF behind Turkoglu, given the current Raps roster
Delfino – needs the ball to be effective, which won’t happen if he starts… the 2nd unit also needs to have some scoring, which he could be counted on to do, along with Jack & DeRozan
Wright – I am not saying Wright is one of the best 5 players on the Raps, but the starting lineup isn’t just about putting your best 5 players on the floor all at once (think about Manu Ginobli in San Antonio). Wright would complement Bosh/Bargnani/Turkoglu/Calderon the best and gives the starting lineup exactly what it’s missing – defense and unselfish play. It’s all about creating chemistry with each lineup and having good balance on both starting and 2nd unit.
I think a 2nd unit with Jack, Delfino, DeRozan Evans and Nesterovic would be very effective. Jack would dominate other backup PG (similar to Calderon 2 seasons ago), Delfino/DeRozan would provide scoring punch and Nesterovic/Evans would grab rebounds and provide tough inside defense.
Totally agree, Wright should start. Let DD develop on the second unit against other teams’ second units. Bring DD along gradually. Then after the all star break if DD is ready, then he can start. But I wouldn’t let an unproven rookie defend the 2 spot in this league. No Way!
Very well said..
Agreed!
Calgary makes the most solid points, agree on every aspect of the post..lol @^^^^^ Saying the 3 team trade with Miami and Utah would go down… Pat Riley would never take Banks’ contract back… NEVER…
Tim Chisholm is the best Raps reporter out there.
He’s good.
Out of the mainstream newspaper beat writers, I’m most partial to Michael Grange. The guy is very even keel, and far more objective than some of his colleagues at other papers.
Yes, you sometimes can’t write what you want to say or what you think should be said because of the fact that you have to talk to the athletes every other day, but Michael Grange is the best at calling it how he sees it, or at least in my opinion.
I like Grange too. He’s #2 with a bullet!
This is another great article with intersting insight…. In response to the comments so far though, I just want to say, let’s not get ahead of ourselves about Douby being a rotation player just yet. Yes he’s having a good summer league so far, but that’s all it is, is summer league! In my opinion, to make any decision on any other ‘real’ rotation player (Delfino might not be worth $5M, but he could definitely hold his own out there against other teams’ bench players) based on Douby’s play so far would be very short-sighted.
Altman here is another question to you, haha lots of questions.
Would you rather have Kleiza on your team or Delfino if you had to choose. How much do you think Kleiza would want to come to the Raptors, and could we afford to get him instead of Delfino?
I don’t know why but I really think Kleiza could be really good in the Raptors uniform. First of all he is just stepping into his prime, and he would get much more minutes than he did last year with the Denver Nuggets if he comes here. Also he would fit in very well in our very ethical team and city.
I think he has been drinking a little too much vodlka in Russia. 5 million a season for Delfino would be way overpaying. The one season with the Raptors , he shot less then %40. He only deserve 3 mil per year. Anything more would be overpaying him. I think it’s time we go for Kleiza.
This team needs more rebounders as Arsenalist pointed out recently. One guy to consider is Jamal Magloire. Guy is old and slow but can still clean the glass and he’s a big body. I’d also look at Joe Smith, Chris Wilcox and Ike Diogu for close to the minimum. Believe it or not those guys might be better options than Rasho who is a poor rebounder for his position/size, though he does a lot of other things well, including taking out Reggie Evans after Reggie slew footed Bosh a few years ago.
I just puked in my mouth to think we actually offered him $4M / season and he rejected it. BC you’ve done so much good this offseason don’t go wasting your midlevel on SH*T!
How many more signs does bc need in order to realize that delfino is a BAD idea.
Ive stated it a billion times, but its worth mentioning again…
Somebody please explain what REALLY positive things they remember about delfino during his 1 year in tdot?
I remember him dribbling at the top of the key and then hucking a 3…after that my mind goes blank.
If this guy actually plays the 3 which we need, than youre telling me he was incapable of winning the starting gig over jamario moon????
Now we want to pay him to come back to a team that needs him less and less each day?
Screw that. Ill take barnes and rasho, thank you.
A Positive recall. Delfino was going down court got stripped, but he turned around and pursued. He blocked the layup from behind.
Chemistry and system are key in basketball. I suspect that Delfino would fit in better with a Jay system than a Sam system.
I’ve got a strong and out-of-nowhere feeling that the pacers will match jack’s offer.
They will try a sign and trade with miller in this days, if nothing happens, they’ll match the offer, they like the guy
Welcome Kleiza then
I am on the fence on the bigs, but am leaning toward Chris Wilcox instead of Rasho. He’s more of a gamble but has some upside (if the coaches do their job) and a ton of athleticism and mobility. Here’s Hollinger’s scouting report:
“Wilcox is a wonderful player as long as he’s within a couple feet of the basket. He shot 61.1 percent in the immediate basket area, his second straight year over 60 percent, but was barely half as accurate (30.9 percent) any time he stepped further away. Watching him play, it’s apparent why this is — he’s an outstanding finisher but has no post game or left hand and doesn’t shoot well.
Wilcox is a poor defender who can be outmuscled by bigger forwards and doesn’t make a great effort to use his quickness to shut down screen-and-roll plays or chase shooters. He’s an outstanding leaper who blocks his share of shots and does a decent job on the boards, and he seemed to be in better shape last season and gave a bit more consistent effort. That said, one still gets the impression he’s underachieving at this end — underscored by the fact that he only drew three offensive fouls last season.
Offensively, he is deadly when he can take a pick-and-roll pass and go right down the lane for a finish, uncorking monstrous right-handed dunks when he can get a running start. The Sonics posted him up at times, but he’s not as comfortable in this setting, relying on a jump hook where he essentially palms the ball way over his head and releases a not-terribly-accurate shot once he realizes he can’t dunk it.”
He’s a UFA and could likely be had for somewhere between the minimum and the LLE. I am not aware of any interest from other teams, although I wouldnt be surprised if the Knicks wanted him back since he’s great for the fast break system…
I’d like to see Colangelo prioritize quick big men over slow footed centers. The team badly needs a big man who can cover the pick and roll, and someone like Rasho or Magloire isn’t going to be that guy.
I also think the Raptors need to be a running team next year. They need to find a way to get some easier baskets, because their defense + rebounding look like problem areas. A quicker big man helps here too.
Running teams run because they get stops. The Rap’s didn’t get stops last year. It’s hard to run when you are always inbounding the ball.
Golden State runs off made baskets just fine. As do the New York Knicks, Indiana Pacers and the Phoenix Suns.
Those teams play at some of the quickest paces in the league — by pace factor, they’re the top four teams in the NBA in terms of possessions per game — and each one of those squads is a poor to very poor defensive squad.
And how many of them had winnning records last season?
If Colangelo can’t reach a reasonable multi-year contract with Delfino … then I think BC should give Delfino a one year $5 million contract.
The team needs Delfino next season and they have the cap flexibility to sign him. They do not need him in the future if his contract demands are too high.
A one year $5 million deal is mutually beneficial.
That’s was I was thinking as well but Delfino has two more years guaranteed in Russia (apparently at 4m net USD per). He won’t sign a contract for less than 2 yrs to come back.
In this market we might be able to snag an equal talent for the BAE. I like Delfino’s versatility but he needs to lower he’s demands or he’s going back to a tier 3 league I don’t think he truly wants to play in.
okay, another question:
We have a team option to keep O’Bryant for 1.6 million. Why don’t we waive that option, since we don’t really need him as he played pretty poorly in summer league. This way instead of 12 mill we would have 13.6 mill free in cap space. Now I think we would have enough to get Kleiza or Barnes don’t you think?
Another thing, why don’t we pull a sign and trade for Jarrett jack, so everyone would be happy. We would save our MLE for another player and Indiana would get Douby, POB, Devean or cash to be satisfied. AT least they didn’t let their guy walk, and we didn’t use our MLE. I don’t know why BC doesn’t do that.
I also think we could pull off a sign and trade for Barnes or Kleiza. Why do we HAVE to get them as FAs?
I think the O’Bryan contract is partially guaranteed for half his salary ($800k), so we’d only save that amount.
And we don’t have any cap space, just the MLE and LLE.
But I do like your idea for sign and trades…they’re just tricky, and its not like we have anything of interested to trade back. So that would mean draft picks…
Those teams don’t necessarily want to let those players go, they just may not be able to afford to keep them. Since those teams will need to take on the same amount of salary back in a trade I don’t think they would pay our scrubs instead of keeping the players they actually want. My hope is that one of Kleiza or Barnes falls through the cracks and takes the BAE for a year or two…seems unlikely but it’s all up in the air right now.
Also pretty sure that POB’s full salary (or a large portion of it) is now guaranteed as of July 1 so waiving him doesn’t relieve the Raps of his salary…unfortunately.
Some Matt Barnes toughness for y’all…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdIFxl5wjs
Love this guy for the team…