Same starting lineup as yesterday and it’s 12-9 Pistons early with Quincy Douby once again trying to make an impact off the dribble. A couple drives leading to a couple fouls, he’s still doing the primary ball-handling for the Raptors. Ukic is the other guard and he’s basically passing it to Douby most of the time and has missed a three of his own. Douby’s shot is looking decent today.
DeRozan is sporting some old school Jordan’s and his handle in the open court looks decent. Smush Parker has come into the game for Ukic, let’s see if he decides to make this his game again. Raptors are trying to give the ball to O’Bryant in the post but he can’t seem to make anything of his touches. The more I see him the more he looks like a waste of a roster spot.
DeRozan just hit a sweet fallaway jumper (excellent form), the man uses his size will in one-on-one matchups, something O’Bryant needs to do more of. For the Pistons, Austin Daye is lighting it up. 17-15 Pistons. Daye just got a rebound over O’Bryant for a offensive rebound score. Raptors rebounding looks brittle, very brittle.
Smush Parker misses his first three. Brent “Air Georgia” Petway is in the game too but hasn’t had the same impact like yesterday, mostly because the guards are dominating the ball. Parker tried to run the pick’ n roll and turned the ball giving the Pistons the last shot of the quarter but their attempt was blocked by Petway at half-court. 26-23 Detroit.
David Doblas, the Spanish forward is trying to show us his post skills, he did this yesterday too, good hard spin move to draw the foul. Jesus Christ, Austin Daye is showing us a mid-range game, a drive game and some rebounding, would not be shocked to see him get minutes for the Pistons this year. The announcer is now giving his ideas on drafting high school players (he’s saying, they can enter but they shouldn’t be allowed to be selected in the lottery).
Roko with a terrible pass into the post, probably needed a bounce, results in a turnover and FTs for Detroit. Roko’s in there handling the ball now with Douby at the off. Patrick O’Bryant blows a jumper than misses defensive assignment. Ekene Ibekwe hits a mid-range jumper, this guy’s release is very slow, no way he gets that shot off in an NBA game. 32-26 Detroit with 6:55 left in the second. Ibekwe with a nice drive and left-handed finish over unknown Euro on the Pistons. Good showing today, he’s even trying to play some defense, nice of the chap.
Haha..Douby just rejected some one-trick pony at the three-point line and then rainbowed one in. We got a little battle going. The unknown Euro just scored on O’Bryant – technical one-on-one move. So far the main player ratings: Douby: A, Ukic: C, O’Bryant: C, Parker: B.
Douby now breaking his man off the dribble, after yesterday’s terrible first half he’s been quite good. Smush Parker turnover, out of control and leaving his feet to pass. A point guard needs to be very careful in how he chooses to showcase himself and Parker needs to calm down and play the team game rather than show his individual offensive talent. Random note: Announcer says Magic will “crash and burn” next year, he’s saying Miami, Cleveland, Dallas and Orlando went too fast to the Finals and that’s not good for them.
Douby now with 11 points after scoring on a drive after catching the pass from Parker. The guards are hogging the ball for the Raptors. 44-36 Pistons. We’re running a freestyle offensive, no real sets.
They say one of the reason DeMar DeRozan left college early is to help out his mother who is sick. He’s had a very low-key game, just a couple points on a fallaway jumper, Douby and Parker are the ones doing all the ball-handling and they’re refusing to pass it unless they really have to. DeRozan finally made a move of intent by driving, missing and putting back his offensive rebound. We’re leaving Michael Bramos wide open on the perimeter who is killing us.
Brent Petway is described as a power forward in a small forward’s body. He hit a nice little power fadeaway after using his body to create space. He’s probably the only non-roster guy that will make Colangelo think about a training camp invite, at least so far.
The half ends with Douby using a Patrick O’Bryant to drain a deep three. It’s 49-44 Pistons at the half. Jay Triano interview coming up. I’ll try to summarize.
- Says defense is still a key for the team. We need the rebound to run. Says there’s enough talent on the team to play multiple styles.
- Says its reasonable to think that DeRozan could start at the SG come opening night. His strength is the mid-range game and he’ll be able to find seams in the defense to exploit using his athleticism.
- They asked him if Bargnani got too much. He’s obviously defending it by saying that Bargnani’s proven himself whenever he’s gotten consistent minutes. He’s praising his shot-blocking ability and his man-defense, and saying he’ll only get better.
- Says Ukic will be fine, last year we wanted him to be the third guard but he ended up being the second guard. Says he’s got a great feel for the game.
Now they’re talking to Bryan Colangelo:
- Says they’re evaluating every player in the summer league, not just the players on the Raptors.
- Says agents are in his ear as we speak talking to him about the Raptors’ MLE.
- Says the whole 4-team trade got sparked off with Marion rejecting a contract offer. Says the best part about the deal might’ve been retaining the MLE and LLE thanks to Orlando playing ball.
- Says we are negotiating with Carlos Delfino and that we have withdrawn the qualifying offer so he’s more marketable to other teams too.
- Says the MLE could be used on a back-up point-guard (as Roko hits a shot) and that we’re evaluating Roko very closely.
- BTW, Darren Washington just had a massive dunk for the Pistons. He’s been a real physical presence for them. Raps down 10.
- Says Steve Nash talked a lot about Jay Triano when they were in Phoenix. Ha, Nash was biggin’ up Triano before Colangelo even knew him.
- Jesus, Darren Washington just got an athletic block on what looked to be a sure layup. Wow, this guy is making an impact. Colangelo says he likes him a lot and reminds him a little of Jamario Moon.
- The Raptors had settled on DeMar DeRozan three weeks before the draft and Colangelo believes he has “star quality” and is a great kid. Colangleo met his parents and everything and thinks he was raised right. Says coming out of USC will help tremendously. Says his psychological profiles and background-checks were great.
- Roko just attempted a step-back 25 footer with plenty of time on the clock. What was going through his mind? DeRozan got an AND1 on the break, good composed finish, fairly easy though. It’s 63-54 Pistons with 3:18 left in the third.
Back to the game, Jonas Jerebko (Sweden) is another Piston who is making a name for himself with his slashing. It’s an 8 point game after Douby knocks down two more FTs. Singletary just scored on Smush Parker, Parker just looks like he wants to play offense.
DeMar DeRozan hits a three – great stroke. I thought jump shooting was his weakness? Another Raptors turnover with Smush on the watch leads to a break but soon after it’s DeMar DeRozan again. Very composed FT line move where he leans in for the AND1, can you say high basketball IQ?
This Doblas guy from Spain doesn’t do anything spectacular but give him the ball in the post and he’ll treat it with respect and get to the FT line. Austin Daye with a deep three, this guy’s making the league no problem. It’s 73-66 Pistons at the end of 3.
BTW, announcer is very arrogant. Says USA basketball needs to be #1, nobody else deserves it. Punk ass b*tch.
Brent Petway made a wing three off some Douby work to cut it four but the Raptors can’t get the offensive rebound and energizer bunny Darren Washington gets the offensive rebound and gets to the line. Douby with another step-back three to cut it to a 2 point game. The Swede misses a running hook but Washington once again gets the rebound and gets to the FT line. Our rebounding is terrible. More missed FTs for Detroit, it’s keeping us in the game.
Douby drove the ball and passed it back into the paint to nobody, turnover. The Raptors offense runs much better when Roko’s not touching the ball. For the sake of this game we should just let Douby to the ball-handling and create, having Roko do dumb shit isn’t helping. Speaking of, Roko turnover after leaving his feet to pass. Next possession, Douby finds DeRozan in transition for the jam. It’s a four point game as DeJuan Summers shows his size inside.
Patrick O’Bryant with a soft 21 foot jumper, he’s playing his outside game in summer league. If he can’t throw his muscle here, when can he throw it? The Swede with a turnover, a blemish on an otherwise pretty good game.
DeRozan once again shows his smoother jumper, this time from the top of the key. Roko ties the game with a patented floater.
Jarret Jack is rumoured to be signing for the Raptors. Apparently that’s what Antonio Harvey thinks after talking to Bryan Colangelo.
Clay Tucker with a couple hoops to give the Pistons a five point lead before Douby executes another one-on-one drive. I wonder if that’s what we’re looking for from him, one-on-one is nice but what happened to the team game? The only wing consistently passing is DeMar DeRozan, probably because he’s the most secure about his spot on the roster. 84-81 Pistons, three minutes left.
DeJuan Summers with another three, he’s playing within the system for the Raptors. DeRozan had a chance to cut it to two with a baseline jumper, got the space using the fake but missed the jumper. Showing good patience with the ball, not rushing things and playing composed.
Patrick O’Bryant was one again given the ball in the post but traveled on a post move. Not good man, not good. Douby with another one-on-one score and soon after O’Bryant finally makes a proper post-move – a hook shot over a shorter guy. Raps down 3 are forced to foul.
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91-87 is your final. Check boxscore.
Roko: Another poor game. Leaving his feet to pass, not showing an ability to drive, taking some questionable jumpers and not coming close to running a team. C-
Douby: Great one-on-one game, terrible team game. He’s the great NBA 3-on-3 player ever and today he played like it, not sure how much the Raptors will be impressed with his selfish display. Still 21 points get him a B+.
Patrick O’Bryant: Should be dominating in stretches like certain Pistons, but can’t find his footing, confidence and coordination. C.
Parker: Didn’t get his jumper going early, had a couple turnovers. Not good. C
DeRozan: 20 points, 4 rebounds and all in rhythm. No ball hogging, no selfish play. Had a nice jumper going, a couple good leaners in the paint, good ball-handling and most of all, very confident in his approach to the game. He looks like a 7-year veteran out there. A.
Thanks for swinging by.
59 Raps
jawai?
traded
If you go on NBA.com summer league you’ll see on him on Mavs Roster, but since the deal was done after the summer league roster, he is still listed in Raps lineup
I have to say, De Rozan’s mid-range jumper is a thing of beauty. Good seperation, elevation, and silky smooth off the wrist. It is NBA ready right now. He also had one really nice drive and finish off the glass.
For sure. DeRozan has great shooting mechanics. I think he has the ability to be a lockdown defender in his prime years.
Mad hate on Ukic Arse….
:O how arrogant are these Announcers… They said how USA Basketball is the best and how everyone else should play for second place. Wow man they are not helping the world’s view on Americans…
right on! Just plain ignorant
This is OUR game! WE created it! USA! USA! USA!
Man, Patrick O’Bryant is terrible. He is slow on offense and defense, made a couple really stupid plays, and seems disinterested. He better not play a single minute in a real NBA game. The Piston’s summer team seems really fluid and on the same page – nice passing plays and cuts. The Raps seem all over the place and have no real plan.
I was blown away when the announcer said “when USA is not #1, the game suffers”. Actually, quite the opposite is true. Arrogant american twat.
I thought BC said that Roy has developed into the best from the 2006 draft class and not Bargnani? He said he wasn’t sure if anyone would have drafted Roy 1st overall at the time, but he has emerged as the best player in that draft class. He then went on to say Roy may be the best of previous draft classes as well. Did I hear incorrectly?
That’s what I heard too. Roy was the best of the draft, not Bargnani.
I heard Roy not Bargnani as well
And Ukic still holds his hips like a woman…..
Just heard Rick on NBA TV say that if Ukic can make that tear dropper consistently that he will get more minutes. What a joke, as that is the one shot that Roko already has under his aresenal. It is all the other shots he needs to work on lol.
box score?
http://www.nba.com/summerleague2009/games/boxscore.jsp?gameId=1520900005
If you close your eyes when listening to DD’s post-game interview, he sounds exactly like Wince.
Man, you are right. Tha that is pretty scary. One thing for sure, when Demar hits the floor, he will get up quicker than Vince can call for his Mommy.
Rick just said that with Demar starting at the 2 he will be in the running for the ROY. I agree, as he will be surrounded by experienced, veteran players in the starting lineup, and as long as he gets (earns) the minutes, he could give Blake a run for his money. At the same time, he will hit the rookie wall, and being what would be his sophomore year in College, it is asking him a lot. I will be happy to see him contribute and improve his game, and the ROY is really pretty irrelevant in the scheme of things.
He’s still very young, the veteran presence in the roster and the locker room will help him to grow a lot. Like i said before, i want him to start but the same way ariza started over odom last year. I still think that delfino is a much better and complete player right now, Carlos coming from the bench can be the scoring presence the second unit needs. To close a game, i will go with carlos for now.
About his role, i will extreamly happy if he can be the energy guy around some many talented players in the starting five, a good defensive stopper who could guard the other team’s best perimeter player. That’s all i could as a 19 year old player in his first profesional experience and that’s a good thing, you don’t want to put too much pressure in a teenager
Jarret Jack is a restricted FA with a $2.9 qualifying offer from Indy, and he is only 6′3-197lbs. He has reportedly replaced TJ as the starter in Indy. BC would have to make a 3 year offer to him near the MLE. As a SG he would be eaten alive by Kobe, VC, DWade, and other SG’s etc.
I don’t imagine they would use him as a SG – more likely back-up PG, combo at most. I like his game. Pretty efficient game, solid on D.
I am a little bit confused now about our future intentions. If Delfino comes back we’d have 3 excellent ball-handlers and creators/passers: Jose, Hedo and Delfino. Why do we need Jack? Are we going to trade Ukic? We have a big hole to fill at PF: if Bosh goes down I don’t like Evans as a starter. We should go after a Wilcox or Kleiza as an insurance against an injured Bosh. I know Kleiza is a SF however he can fill in at PF and stretch the floor.
Agree with that. We don’t need another pg, in case roko fails to perfomr nicely, just turn the back up pg duties to carlos and hedo, after all, jose will play 35 min a night.
We need to spend in a back up SF, kleiza sounds good, but not great. What about the rumor of Nachbar instead of Kleiza? they play the same position but are very different types of players, plus Nachbar will come much cheaper. Anyone knows if the nets sign him to a qualyfing offer or something? he has been playing in russia last year but i think the nets still hold his rights
We need a PG badly….. Ukic is not a proven backup and Banks does not deserve to wear a uniform. THIS has to be addressed. Hedo and Delfino can be point forwards sure…..but they can not guard PG’s and if and when Jose gets hurt we need a solid backup not to mention Jack can play the 2 and is good basketball player.
Great signing but Pacers will most likely match.
The one reason they may not match is: they just signed D Jones, and all ready have TJ Ford, Diener, Rush, Granger, Dunlevy signed at the PG and wing postions.
But they seem to like Jack more then TJ at the end of last season.
Jack is a great conbo guard and would be a great rotation player for this team for years to come.
Come on Bird let us have him….
Indiana won’t match…price tag is too high @ 4yrs/$20 million. We definitely needed a solid backup pg for all the reasons you mentioned and Jack fits the bill. Kudos again for BC. Its going to be an exciting year and it still appears that Delfino, Rasho and Kleiza will be added to the roster.
Awesome signing Jarrett Jack, Pacers are silly to let him go with Granger knee problems.
At what cost is this a great signing? are we going to offer the full MLE? no one knows its a signing unless its done and he is offically a Raptor.
I would like them to sign Delfino before they do another signing; i think should be their number 1 priority.
What if Rasho is signed in Europe for 3-4 mill? If we offered Jack full MLE then we can offer Rasho only LLE for his last NBA contract. We have only 4 bigs on our roster and only 3 are NBA ready. I have no doubts the brass know that so I have to trust them to do the right thing.
I have a questions for the fans: if I remember correctly Jack requested to be moved from Portland because he didn’t get the starting position. Can anyone confirms? I don’t want to see another Jose-TJ situation in the locker room. It killed our team 2 seasons ago.
They are no BIGS worthy of the MLE.
Milsap and Lee deserve more and everyone else deserves less.
Look Rasho will come here relax as the back up center and between Bosh, Andrea, Evans, Rasho there is no real need to sign a huge chunk of cash to another big.
We could sign a low salary to a Mikki More or Jamal Maglore or Skinner or Pops as our 5th big and gulp Patrcik Obryan can wear a suit.
The Raps have Jose and proven backup and at the 2 they have Wright who is a rotation player at best and Derozan who may need some time.
A combo like Jack is perfect.
THe guy can play to check out his minutes and gamelog. He is solid.
Promise to take Tinsley for George and Banks if Pacers don’t match the offer to Jack.
LOL
Was nice to see for myself a bit of what DeRozan might be all about and I have to say, I’m impressed all to hell. Quite enjoyed the commentary along with it – nice job, Arsenalist. Now, instead of thinking ‘I don’t know’ every time I look at the vote box on whether DD should start or come off the bench, I can make a choice. I’m voting ‘start’.
LMAO @ the raptors quest to make the Pacers even less black.
If Jack signs… man that would make my day. Been a big fan of this guy for a couple years now.
I say Bird matches by the end of the weekend….
Fuck you Larry………let us have him………….you swine…………
Bird is an A-hole, he will just match it out of spite.
bird will let him go… he wants the pacers as white and irish as the celtics… lol… damn swine boy!!!
We did him a favour with the JO trade. He owes us!
Let God help Colangelo once again. Jarett Jack and Roko Ukic are simply not same class of player. Jack is just average player. Not that he doesn’t belong to NBA league (like Banks or Ivey don’t), but there’s zillion players of Jack’s quality, especially at PG. While Roko is predestined to be good starter one day. OK, if he’s patient and willing to learn, like for example … Calderon was. I can see no good reason for overpaying career backup instead of trying to develop Roko.
God already helped with Shawn Marion turning down (for him insane good) contract offered by Colangelo. Then struck by a light Turkoglu changed his heart at 5 minutes to 12 leaving Pritchard empty handed. And if now Bird matches that Jack offer … well, then we’re talking about really lucky man. Bird just might do it, he had not many flashes of brilliance as GM (in fact he had none, but let’s show some respect to one of the greatest players in the history of the game).
As for Rasho, why would he net less than $1 million a year from Raptors deal if he can get 3 times more in Europe? Yes, he lives in Toronto, and he would play for few bucks less for Raptors, but that’s too big paycheck difference. OK, there’s players that would do that. For example, no one but Ukic recently turned down Greece powerhouse Olympiakos offer. That two seasons offer would bring to his account 3 times more money over 2 years than his NBA rookie contract. But those are mostly young players hoping for lucrative second NBA contract after rookie one expires.
uh, dude, your euro is showing. hold onto the roko dream, ’cause, i’m afraid, that’s all it is…a pipe-dream. i’m just not sure he’s going to get over the bad habits he’s developed over the last few years playing overseas.
Jack is a solid backup PG ukic may or may not develop into one. Look Ukic can stay and be the 3rd PG if he outplays Jose of Jack he can earn minutes very unlikely though.
Jack is great…..you should educate yourself on him first the guy is a good rotaion player…. Ukic is not a rotation player he may be one day but he may not be. We need a backup now……
Jarret Jack played 42% of his minutes at SG in 2008-2009 according to 82games.com, and he played much better at that spot than he did at PG. This is important to note, as it means primarily Jack is a SG, but he is capable of filling in at PG in case of injury, or in limited minutes, ala Anthony Parker in 2008-2009.
This signing isn’t lighting me on fire, but it isn’t “Terrible”.
well I can see Bird not matching because of TJ Ford… I don’t think he was to pleased coming off the bench last year. Not to mention Jack and TJ got into during a game last year…
Some other notable Jarret Jack information, courtesy of 82games.com.
Crunch 29% .510 37% 5% 3.0.
29% of his usage came in crunch time, where he shot 51% on 2’s and %37 on 3’s, scoring 3 of his 13 ppg in crunch time.
These are stats sorely needed on the Raptors.
jack is a good player
WE NEED A FUCKING BACKUP CENTER!!!! WE
DONT FUCKING HAVE ONE!
FUCK.
GEEZ…TAKE A PILL! THEY WILL GET ONE SOONER THAN LATER…MOST LIKELY RASHO.
ESPN reports 4 years $20mil for Jack.
Worth it to keep Bosh happy?
One thing that Bryan has shown so far, is that he does not BS. When he says he will build a team around Bosh that will make him want to stay, he was not kidding. This was 100% done with CB4’s input, and it is now a fait accompli that Bosh will reup with us. Indy will not be matching it due to their own cap limitations coming up.
BC is making excellent moves in hopes of keeping Bosh…meanwhile Pat Riley is waiting for a commitment from Wade before he improves his team. It’s pretty obvious who the better GM is.
Seems like a shrewd move by BC. The nice thing about it, no matter how it plays out it will benefit the Raps in some way.
I’m going to assume BC isn’t an idiot and realizes that the Pacers have a lot of point guards with redundant skill sets and have stated they don’t want to pay the tax. So there’s a good chance BC lowballed this, something on the order of 3.4-3.6 to start, with .4 mil raises for 16ish mil over the contract – a nice raise for Jack and a good contract to get in a summer with not a lot of money left this year or likely next either. If Indiana goes cheap and doesn’t match, Jack gets to ride along with a team on the upward swing and back up a starting point that potentially can’t handle starters’ minutes, and Toronto finally gets it right with the Slow / Fast PG combo. Jack may not be the passer Ford was, but he’s a much better defender and that’s what this club needs a lot more of. The idea of a Jack, Delfino and DeRozan backcourt off the bench with Antoine Wright starting (which as Tim Chrisolm pointed out the Raps might be crazy not to do) sounds like it has the potential to bring a lot of solid point of attack defense to mix and match with whatever starters happen to be giving you the best pick and roll mismathces that night.
On the other hand, if Indiana does match then you’re saddling them with both Jack and Ford, who basically bring slightly different versions of the same game. You’re also kicking Roko in the ass with the motivation boot and maybe driving the price down on Delfino’s services as well to counter the fact that he’s no longer restricted. Maybe you’re handing Jack to Indiana for cheap, hopefully you’re not playing chicken over an outsized contract. Regardless, unless BC is doing something crazy like offering 4.5 per year over 4 years, then this should benefit the Raps.
Actually, 5 mill per year over 4 years, so he must be a lunatic lol. In order to secure Jack, BC obviously felt that he had to come up with the $ and length to make the Pacers let Jack go.
I’m not a big fan of the contract length or size, but I feel like it’d be a moveable contract in the future. If we tank, he could be traded without too much difficult IMO.
And in the meantime, he fits this roster perfectly.
i can smell o’bryants vagina from here.
ew.
I once predicted that Jermaine O’Neal, Shawn Marion and Jarrett Jack would play for the Raptors at some point in their careers.
My friends said I was a fool.
NOW I LAUGH!
But seriously, a signing of Jack and a decent backup C (I’m loving Rasho – was absolutely SOLID during the ‘07 season for us) and Colangelo has officially won my heart. The next two seasons will be very intriguing indeed…
Hahaha….reported first on Raptors Republic!!! Press pass please?
Very unexpected but I guess he could be nice insurance for injury at the point.
we need insurance at the C too