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		<title>By: khandor</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31732</link>
		<dc:creator>khandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 04:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is what it is,

Ironically, your supposed answer to the question asked doesn&#039;t actually answer the specific question at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is what it is,</p>
<p>Ironically, your supposed answer to the question asked doesn&#8217;t actually answer the specific question at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31703</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know.  I can&#039;t help myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know.  I can&#8217;t help myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31700</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it actually.  You should keep it or something like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it actually.  You should keep it or something like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31699</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean to Orlando or to New Jersey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean to Orlando or to New Jersey?</p>
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		<title>By: Seeten</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31697</link>
		<dc:creator>Seeten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Zach Randolph wasn&#039;t a team killing cancer, he&#039;d HAVE a max contract. (And maybe a shot at a title, as he might still be on the Blazers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Zach Randolph wasn&#8217;t a team killing cancer, he&#8217;d HAVE a max contract. (And maybe a shot at a title, as he might still be on the Blazers.)</p>
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		<title>By: mo</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31696</link>
		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and by the way ,
in the 2006-2007 season zach randolph averaged 23.6 and 10.1,
similar stats to chris bosh ,
yeah i know hes pretty dumb and doesn&#039;t have a great attitude,
but even if he wasn&#039;t like that
do you think he deserved a max contract? (which he didn&#039;t get)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and by the way ,<br />
in the 2006-2007 season zach randolph averaged 23.6 and 10.1,<br />
similar stats to chris bosh ,<br />
yeah i know hes pretty dumb and doesn&#8217;t have a great attitude,<br />
but even if he wasn&#8217;t like that<br />
do you think he deserved a max contract? (which he didn&#8217;t get)</p>
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		<title>By: mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed</p>
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		<title>By: Seeten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what Chris brings to the table on the offensive end at Center.

I dislike Chris as a defender at C. He has significant trouble keeping people off the block, allows deep post position, and generally gets abused.

David Lee is best running the baseline, or rolling on the PnR. He isn&#039;t going to be the 1 2 or 3 option on the PnR in TO, we have significantly better players to run the PnR with, and Calderon isn&#039;t very good at throwing a lob to people running the baseline, so I think getting Lee means getting a great rebounding garbage man. Now. There is something to like about that, for example, I liked Pops in that role, but I sure don&#039;t want to pay someone $12,000,000 a season to do it, and again, he&#039;s not great defensively. He&#039;s not even good. He&#039;s average at best defensively. His lateral quicks are not good, his anticipation isn&#039;t great, about the only plus is his willingness to try really hard.

I love players who play at 120% and at 120 mph, but I don&#039;t want to pay $12 million for Rebounders. I&#039;ll grant you rebounding is necessary, but I&#039;d rather pay Pops. Some things to think about:

SPLIT G   MIN  STL BLK  TO  PF  OFF DEF TOT  AST PTS 
Total 22 12.9 1.70 0.85 3.2 7.3 9.3 9.8 19.2 1.0 18.8

So Pops averaged 18.8 pts and 19.2 boards per 48.

SPLIT G  MIN    STL BLK  TO  PF  OFF DEF TOT AST PTS 
Total 81 34.9  1.36 0.37 2.5 4.4 4.4 11.8 16.2 3.0 22.0 
 
So David Lee is getting 22.0 and 16.2 per 48.

David Lee played a lot more, and so he isn&#039;t as prone to number inflation as Pops, but really, I don&#039;t want to pay $12 million a season for someone I can approximate for $1.3 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what Chris brings to the table on the offensive end at Center.</p>
<p>I dislike Chris as a defender at C. He has significant trouble keeping people off the block, allows deep post position, and generally gets abused.</p>
<p>David Lee is best running the baseline, or rolling on the PnR. He isn&#8217;t going to be the 1 2 or 3 option on the PnR in TO, we have significantly better players to run the PnR with, and Calderon isn&#8217;t very good at throwing a lob to people running the baseline, so I think getting Lee means getting a great rebounding garbage man. Now. There is something to like about that, for example, I liked Pops in that role, but I sure don&#8217;t want to pay someone $12,000,000 a season to do it, and again, he&#8217;s not great defensively. He&#8217;s not even good. He&#8217;s average at best defensively. His lateral quicks are not good, his anticipation isn&#8217;t great, about the only plus is his willingness to try really hard.</p>
<p>I love players who play at 120% and at 120 mph, but I don&#8217;t want to pay $12 million for Rebounders. I&#8217;ll grant you rebounding is necessary, but I&#8217;d rather pay Pops. Some things to think about:</p>
<p>SPLIT G   MIN  STL BLK  TO  PF  OFF DEF TOT  AST PTS<br />
Total 22 12.9 1.70 0.85 3.2 7.3 9.3 9.8 19.2 1.0 18.8</p>
<p>So Pops averaged 18.8 pts and 19.2 boards per 48.</p>
<p>SPLIT G  MIN    STL BLK  TO  PF  OFF DEF TOT AST PTS<br />
Total 81 34.9  1.36 0.37 2.5 4.4 4.4 11.8 16.2 3.0 22.0 </p>
<p>So David Lee is getting 22.0 and 16.2 per 48.</p>
<p>David Lee played a lot more, and so he isn&#8217;t as prone to number inflation as Pops, but really, I don&#8217;t want to pay $12 million a season for someone I can approximate for $1.3 million.</p>
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		<title>By: mo</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31685</link>
		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its very possible to make a championship roster while paying a player the max,
if the player being payed is kobe bryant .

this is chris bosh were talking about ... 23ppg
hes obviously a great player, but he doesn&#039;t deserve the same money as kobe, lebron, and wade who all deserve max contracts .

bosh can win a title for sure,
but he can&#039;t lead a team to a title ,
if hes the secondary option on a team then that team would most likely win the title</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its very possible to make a championship roster while paying a player the max,<br />
if the player being payed is kobe bryant .</p>
<p>this is chris bosh were talking about &#8230; 23ppg<br />
hes obviously a great player, but he doesn&#8217;t deserve the same money as kobe, lebron, and wade who all deserve max contracts .</p>
<p>bosh can win a title for sure,<br />
but he can&#8217;t lead a team to a title ,<br />
if hes the secondary option on a team then that team would most likely win the title</p>
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		<title>By: it is what it is</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31684</link>
		<dc:creator>it is what it is</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khandor I have no problem answering that question.

I think Bosh can play effective as a center in small spurts and has proven to do so.

I think Bosh has proven he is one of the best power forwards in the game.

I believe Bosh is best suited for to play the majority of time on the basketball court at the power forward postion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khandor I have no problem answering that question.</p>
<p>I think Bosh can play effective as a center in small spurts and has proven to do so.</p>
<p>I think Bosh has proven he is one of the best power forwards in the game.</p>
<p>I believe Bosh is best suited for to play the majority of time on the basketball court at the power forward postion.</p>
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		<title>By: RYE</title>
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		<dc:creator>RYE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly...pretty much every team has a bad contract or two on it...even the Lakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly&#8230;pretty much every team has a bad contract or two on it&#8230;even the Lakers.</p>
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		<title>By: RYE</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31682</link>
		<dc:creator>RYE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Bosh ain&#039;t Kobe, but I do totally agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Bosh ain&#8217;t Kobe, but I do totally agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: a1029384756z</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31681</link>
		<dc:creator>a1029384756z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea well suck his spaghetti dick then</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea well suck his spaghetti dick then</p>
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		<title>By: RYE</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31680</link>
		<dc:creator>RYE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carter was the steal of the decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carter was the steal of the decade.</p>
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		<title>By: RYE</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31679</link>
		<dc:creator>RYE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amazing how many peo0ple have trouble just keeping their man in front of them.  My bball team has the same problem...annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amazing how many peo0ple have trouble just keeping their man in front of them.  My bball team has the same problem&#8230;annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: RYE</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31678</link>
		<dc:creator>RYE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do work for a shitty boss....for now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do work for a shitty boss&#8230;.for now</p>
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		<title>By: Seeten</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31676</link>
		<dc:creator>Seeten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s on his rookie contract, he was 3rd overall pick, so his contract is for ridiculous $$</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s on his rookie contract, he was 3rd overall pick, so his contract is for ridiculous $$</p>
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		<title>By: JayElZee</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/07/08/salary-cap-announced-bargnani-extended-pick-barter/#comment-31675</link>
		<dc:creator>JayElZee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the...?!? Morrison makes $5M??? Now there is a Banks-like contract if I&#039;ve ever seen one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the&#8230;?!? Morrison makes $5M??? Now there is a Banks-like contract if I&#8217;ve ever seen one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Season is Lost</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Season is Lost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot two important pieces: Ariza and Odom! Or Artest now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot two important pieces: Ariza and Odom! Or Artest now</p>
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		<title>By: Seeten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also of comical note: They are even paying someone worse than Marcus Banks more money than Marcus Banks himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also of comical note: They are even paying someone worse than Marcus Banks more money than Marcus Banks himself.</p>
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