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	<title>Comments on: Bye K-Fraud, Bosh trade speculation, Workouts</title>
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		<title>By: Raptor Fan Always</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/06/10/goodbye-k-fraud-bosh-trade-speculation/#comment-29286</link>
		<dc:creator>Raptor Fan Always</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this idea guys and gals...? 

Bosh and BC&#039;s real master plan is have BC trade him to any team willing to offer Toronto some high quality pieces then he resigns with Toronto after next season with max money. Dynasties are built from within. Can it still happen with today&#039;s me first mentality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this idea guys and gals&#8230;? </p>
<p>Bosh and BC&#8217;s real master plan is have BC trade him to any team willing to offer Toronto some high quality pieces then he resigns with Toronto after next season with max money. Dynasties are built from within. Can it still happen with today&#8217;s me first mentality?</p>
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		<title>By: ScottBaird</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScottBaird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bosh is the only guy on the Raps last season who could guarantee offensive productivity, and who was able to carry the offense when the team was shooting bricks.

We NEED someone who can do that and MORE in the upcoming trade.  And I don&#039;t think that player has been mentioned yet.
Scott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bosh is the only guy on the Raps last season who could guarantee offensive productivity, and who was able to carry the offense when the team was shooting bricks.</p>
<p>We NEED someone who can do that and MORE in the upcoming trade.  And I don&#8217;t think that player has been mentioned yet.<br />
Scott.</p>
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		<title>By: James Ballswin (Realizar)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Ballswin (Realizar)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO, Monta &amp; Biedrins is fair value for Bosh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO, Monta &amp; Biedrins is fair value for Bosh.</p>
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		<title>By: spirow</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/06/10/goodbye-k-fraud-bosh-trade-speculation/#comment-29065</link>
		<dc:creator>spirow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaine. . . Their good wingers in detroit but not the type that will make you into a championship team. . . The best player they had was bullips. . . We we loose bosh we loose inside toughness. . . And number two we can only trade him for pieces from GS and i would say randolf, ellis and their first overall pick. . . And number two we can trade for blake griffen or even greg oden who i think will step up soon enough</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaine. . . Their good wingers in detroit but not the type that will make you into a championship team. . . The best player they had was bullips. . . We we loose bosh we loose inside toughness. . . And number two we can only trade him for pieces from GS and i would say randolf, ellis and their first overall pick. . . And number two we can trade for blake griffen or even greg oden who i think will step up soon enough</p>
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		<title>By: kaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think that the target must be detroit: they have the best team veterans, people that knows how to win and how to play with your partners.

plus, dumars is dumb enough (billups...curry...) and willing to show detroit&#039;s fans that he is going somewhere in destroying their previously winning team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think that the target must be detroit: they have the best team veterans, people that knows how to win and how to play with your partners.</p>
<p>plus, dumars is dumb enough (billups&#8230;curry&#8230;) and willing to show detroit&#8217;s fans that he is going somewhere in destroying their previously winning team</p>
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		<title>By: Babyface Killah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babyface Killah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are going make a trade with G-state I would rather have Randolph than Biedrins. Randolph is the most intresting player in the nba and could be future all-star if developed well. IMO ppl on RR overrates Biedrins way too much he serviceble center but not a center piece in a trade for a mutiple time All-star (Bosh).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are going make a trade with G-state I would rather have Randolph than Biedrins. Randolph is the most intresting player in the nba and could be future all-star if developed well. IMO ppl on RR overrates Biedrins way too much he serviceble center but not a center piece in a trade for a mutiple time All-star (Bosh).</p>
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		<title>By: shats</title>
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		<dc:creator>shats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should it scare you? Bosh does not lack athletcism and it does not hold him back at all. Besides, Hansborough&#039;s athleticism is offset by his lack of height and short arms. Bosh is a good 6&#039;10, 6&#039;11 and has very long arms, making up for his supposed lack of athleticism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should it scare you? Bosh does not lack athletcism and it does not hold him back at all. Besides, Hansborough&#8217;s athleticism is offset by his lack of height and short arms. Bosh is a good 6&#8242;10, 6&#8242;11 and has very long arms, making up for his supposed lack of athleticism</p>
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		<title>By: shats</title>
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		<dc:creator>shats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trouble only seems to start when Khandor is one of the first commentors, it gives people too much time to think of ingenious insults (such as &quot;you are gay&quot; or &quot;you are a F***ing retard&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trouble only seems to start when Khandor is one of the first commentors, it gives people too much time to think of ingenious insults (such as &#8220;you are gay&#8221; or &#8220;you are a F***ing retard&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Rye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if he doesn’t play his balls off, Reggie Evans will take care of that for us.&quot;.....comedy GOLD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if he doesn’t play his balls off, Reggie Evans will take care of that for us.&#8221;&#8230;..comedy GOLD!</p>
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		<title>By: Brain Colangelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brain Colangelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how much do combine scores matter?  per m. grange, not much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how much do combine scores matter?  per m. grange, not much.</p>
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		<title>By: spirow</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And number two why don&#039;t the raps just trade bosh for beasley that would clearly be better then what detroit can offer us or even chicago. . . We need a superstar or someone whose better then bosh. . . We&#039;re selling ourselves short, if he was in States ppl would praise him more then Garnett. . . I think we should straight out target Griffin. . .How do we do that? Trade bosh to memphis for their 2nd overall pick and may be take a guy like darko. . . Trade our second overall pick to the clippers for their first overall pick and may be take baron davis off their hands! it gives them more flexibility, and gives us Griffen! Im sure raps can take a right step in the right direction after we got screwed over by vinces immaturity. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And number two why don&#8217;t the raps just trade bosh for beasley that would clearly be better then what detroit can offer us or even chicago. . . We need a superstar or someone whose better then bosh. . . We&#8217;re selling ourselves short, if he was in States ppl would praise him more then Garnett. . . I think we should straight out target Griffin. . .How do we do that? Trade bosh to memphis for their 2nd overall pick and may be take a guy like darko. . . Trade our second overall pick to the clippers for their first overall pick and may be take baron davis off their hands! it gives them more flexibility, and gives us Griffen! Im sure raps can take a right step in the right direction after we got screwed over by vinces immaturity. . .</p>
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		<title>By: spirow</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2009/06/10/goodbye-k-fraud-bosh-trade-speculation/#comment-29057</link>
		<dc:creator>spirow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay im sorry but this article dosn&#039;t make sense in terms of the trading partners raptors might have. . . Why would we take anything from the hornets? unless they give us chris paul. . . Yeah id much rather be happy with that cuz tysun chandler is injury prone. . . David west he&#039;s good but not an all star in my eyes. . . He&#039;s over rated for me. . . If you have two superstars on a team then that teams should put up a challenge in the playoffs and hornets got blown away into the garbage type teams. . . Thanks but no thanks i&#039;ll pass. . . As for Goldenstate if they want bosh then they gotta throw in randolf, ellis, and their first overall pick for bosh! Yes you herd me right, your dumb article is missevaluating the value of bosh by giving us nothing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay im sorry but this article dosn&#8217;t make sense in terms of the trading partners raptors might have. . . Why would we take anything from the hornets? unless they give us chris paul. . . Yeah id much rather be happy with that cuz tysun chandler is injury prone. . . David west he&#8217;s good but not an all star in my eyes. . . He&#8217;s over rated for me. . . If you have two superstars on a team then that teams should put up a challenge in the playoffs and hornets got blown away into the garbage type teams. . . Thanks but no thanks i&#8217;ll pass. . . As for Goldenstate if they want bosh then they gotta throw in randolf, ellis, and their first overall pick for bosh! Yes you herd me right, your dumb article is missevaluating the value of bosh by giving us nothing!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo.  

I expect the best season of his career next season no matter where he is playing.  Why not have it be in Toronto?

And if it ain&#039;t the best season of his career, might as well get rid of the bum at the trade deadline anyway.

If he really wants his max contract (and he does) he&#039;s going to play his balls off next season.  No more ill-advised three-pointers.

And if he doesn&#039;t play his balls off, Reggie Evans will take care of that for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo.  </p>
<p>I expect the best season of his career next season no matter where he is playing.  Why not have it be in Toronto?</p>
<p>And if it ain&#8217;t the best season of his career, might as well get rid of the bum at the trade deadline anyway.</p>
<p>If he really wants his max contract (and he does) he&#8217;s going to play his balls off next season.  No more ill-advised three-pointers.</p>
<p>And if he doesn&#8217;t play his balls off, Reggie Evans will take care of that for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Elliot Ness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliot Ness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Arsenalist and Info - Golden State has the most wealth to cough up and are one of the top teams in terms of interest for Bosh.

This trade makes sense, in terms of cash, but I could also see them including Crawford in one way or another, which I would have NO qualms about whatsoever. 

Bosh – 14,400,000

FOR

Biedrins - 9,000,000
Randolph – 1,700,000 
CJ Watson – 700,000
Belinelli – 1,500,000
1st rounder

The keys to this for me are Randolph and the 1st rounder, but I like Watson as a servicable back-up.  Randolph is still maturing, but he&#039;s a freak who just needs polish, and he would likely thrive under Triano after having to deal with the head-case that is Nelson.  This kid&#039;s already good - he could be great.

I also like the idea of shifting Bargnani to PF and Biedrins into the starting C spot.  

Yes, it&#039;s a youth movement, but all of these players saw a fair amount of the floor last year due to the Nelson Revolving Door.

The flashes of potential I&#039;ve seen from Belinelli justify a mention too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Arsenalist and Info &#8211; Golden State has the most wealth to cough up and are one of the top teams in terms of interest for Bosh.</p>
<p>This trade makes sense, in terms of cash, but I could also see them including Crawford in one way or another, which I would have NO qualms about whatsoever. </p>
<p>Bosh – 14,400,000</p>
<p>FOR</p>
<p>Biedrins &#8211; 9,000,000<br />
Randolph – 1,700,000<br />
CJ Watson – 700,000<br />
Belinelli – 1,500,000<br />
1st rounder</p>
<p>The keys to this for me are Randolph and the 1st rounder, but I like Watson as a servicable back-up.  Randolph is still maturing, but he&#8217;s a freak who just needs polish, and he would likely thrive under Triano after having to deal with the head-case that is Nelson.  This kid&#8217;s already good &#8211; he could be great.</p>
<p>I also like the idea of shifting Bargnani to PF and Biedrins into the starting C spot.  </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a youth movement, but all of these players saw a fair amount of the floor last year due to the Nelson Revolving Door.</p>
<p>The flashes of potential I&#8217;ve seen from Belinelli justify a mention too.</p>
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		<title>By: shats</title>
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		<dc:creator>shats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Arsenalist, you could have just finished the article after the first two words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Arsenalist, you could have just finished the article after the first two words.</p>
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		<title>By: Stince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Tyler Hansbrough had better results in the vertical jump and lateral quickness drills/tests than Bosh. I&#039;m not sure if that&#039;s versus Bosh&#039;s scores at his combine when he was a rookie or what they&#039;re listed at now, but either way that scares me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Tyler Hansbrough had better results in the vertical jump and lateral quickness drills/tests than Bosh. I&#8217;m not sure if that&#8217;s versus Bosh&#8217;s scores at his combine when he was a rookie or what they&#8217;re listed at now, but either way that scares me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dino Gunners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dino Gunners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what does it say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what does it say?</p>
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		<title>By: JesusHChrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>JesusHChrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We call Kapono &#039;Winebago&#039;, cuz he be a &#039;Travellin Man&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We call Kapono &#8216;Winebago&#8217;, cuz he be a &#8216;Travellin Man&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Stince</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stince</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ew.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&amp;page=DraftWatch-090604&amp;addata=2009_insdr_mod_nba_xxx_xxx

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ew.</p>
<p><a href="http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&amp;page=DraftWatch-090604&amp;addata=2009_insdr_mod_nba_xxx_xxx" rel="nofollow">http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2009/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&amp;page=DraftWatch-090604&amp;addata=2009_insdr_mod_nba_xxx_xxx</a></p>
<p>I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edgar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha I dunno about &quot;damaged goods&quot; - the guy just broke his leg.  Its common and has no long-term effects whatsoever...

Listening to BC&#039;s post-trade press conference he listed off all his bigs (except Pops) and then said &quot;and then you have to consider the option of Pop&#039;s contract situation..... he has by no means earned himself a roster spot&quot; etc.

Sounds like BC likes Hump over Pops, which makes sense considering their contract situations and Hump has more potential, is much more physical (would be used defending bruising centers), etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha I dunno about &#8220;damaged goods&#8221; &#8211; the guy just broke his leg.  Its common and has no long-term effects whatsoever&#8230;</p>
<p>Listening to BC&#8217;s post-trade press conference he listed off all his bigs (except Pops) and then said &#8220;and then you have to consider the option of Pop&#8217;s contract situation&#8230;.. he has by no means earned himself a roster spot&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>Sounds like BC likes Hump over Pops, which makes sense considering their contract situations and Hump has more potential, is much more physical (would be used defending bruising centers), etc</p>
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