03 Jun 2009

Hi Alvin

Hey Alvin,

It’s nice to see you back with the Raptors. I’m glad Colangelo’s rewarding you with an assistant coach’s position for the service you’ve rendered this organization. You were always one of my favorite players, not because you were anything all-star but because you played hard. Still remember that game-icing Game 5 jumper in New York, to date the highlight of this sad franchise. So what you been up to? I read you were helping out kids at Villanova do their thing but other than that what’s up? You been keeping in touch with the L or are we going to have to get you ESPN classic?

I just hope you can get these guys to play hard because if there’s one thing we’ll expect from you as an assistant coach, its that you motivate these young ‘uns to play with the effort you played with. I’m guessing that’s the reason Colangelo got you back in town, when he said “toughness” I never thought he was talking about the assistant coaches, but hey, I’ll take any toughness anywhere. Let me ask you this, Jay’s a rookie coach, you’re a rookie assistant and Iavaroni’s a defensive-minded dude, which means there’s one spot on the bench left for that ultra-super-duper-experienced-white-haired coach to get the technical X’s and O’s up to speed. Who’s it going to be? I mean, I’m thinking we need a crazy old Tex Winter type guy who analyzes the playbook in the can and comes up with derivatives of the UCLA cut while he’s cuddling with his wife. Let me know who you think Triano’s got in mind for that “old head” he talked about.

Other than that, nothing much has changed. The team hasn’t done anything since you left, Vince turned out to be a bit of a pussy, Bosh plays harder but he’s not as talented as VC but you knew that already. Jose’s alright (we think) but you could do him a solid if you teach him that crossover + pull-up jumper that you had going when you were at your best. A thing about defense would be nice too, maybe you can convince him not to clap his hands, it looks silly and more importantly, it never works. Good luck with Roko too, he reminds me of a poor man’s version of you. Don’t take offense, you were far better, it’s probably just the size thing and the defense he plays that draws the similarity, not much more really.

You’ll probably meet this guy called Marcus in practice. He doesn’t really play for us, he just counts against our cap, don’t waste your time on him. If he ever strikes up a conversation with you just tell him you’re only supposed to speak with Raptors players, staff and media and that he’s none of the above. Looking forward to seeing what you can do for us, hopefully you’ll be the guy they talk to at those halftime interviews where the assistant coach just reads the stats and answers leading questions to tell us what we already know.

Try to stick with the Raptors for a few years and don’t be all surprised when you’re the head coach under a new GM, you know, kinda what happened to Triano. Fingers crossed. Also, are you going to be the assistant coach that holds back Jay when he starts snapping clipboards or are you going to be the fiery assistant who picks up technicals much to the amusement of everyone. I hope it’s the latter because I think Iavaroni’s eying that first duty.

Anyways man, that’s all I wanted to say. Keep in touch.

Peace.

89 Raps

  1. eastcoast says:

    You’re writing letters now?….oh the dog days. Yesk, Hi Alvin. If you have a minute, Arse would like to eat the peanuts from your stool. Just kidding, man. I like Boogie too, here’s hoping a deal gets done and a better team takes the court this fall.

  2. Alex Hopper says:

    This man is by far my favorite raptor ever glad to have him back.

  3. South cakalakie says:

    love it! Alvin Williams is the bomb. Speaking of C.Oakley…we need him to come in and teach Bargnani/Bosh to trash talk and get into peoples faces (and maybe throw a few elbows) and wipe off that “soft” title that all our big men have (with exception to Voskhul – lol!)

    • Cosa Nostra says:

      I agree Bud.

      I still remember when That Raptors were down large and Pops Bowel (whatever his name is) had to re-energize the crowd by himself and willed the team to a victory with is effort and rebounding. Bosh was on the bench sulking. Pops gets a standing ovation at the end.

      • shats says:

        Dude, the post doesn’t have anything to do with Bosh, stop saying how shit he is. Also, when was that game, who was it against?

        • Cosa Nostra says:

          lol Just saying bro I have never seen Bosh get a standing ovation for anything like that before. It’s not the losing that bothers me it’s the fact that he barely gives effort, ever. lackadiasical attiude, always, every game. Not trying to be an ass but I’m stating the truth.

          • Bosh could go for 101 points on 100% shooting and it wouldn’t be good enough for a standing ovation. That’s called “being a star player in Toronto.” Doesn’t matter what he does…he should’ve done better. Ask Mats Sundin or Vernon Wells how many standing Os they’ve gotten.

            On the other hand, Toronto loves its scrappy underdogs. That’s why Pops can get a standing O for drawing a charge or putting back an offensive rebound. It’s also why Darcy Tucker was able to hoodwink a city full of hockey fans into thinking he possessed any semblance of actual skill.

            • Cosa Nostra says:

              True. One of the reasons why Tie Domi was the biggest star on the Maple Leafs and had all kinds of endorsements. Charisma and likeability was something he had in spades.

            • yertu damkule says:

              i’ll cheer wells once he wakes from his coma, let alone do anything productive on the field.

              • drizz says:

                I would call his defensive play productive.
                Hitting, yeah he’s pretty dry right now.

            • shats says:

              Everybody in the entire world loves an underdog, especially if that underdog has an awesome name. Why do you think the crowd at roland garros was going nuts when Soderling beat nadal

      • yertu damkule says:

        well, i think your anecdotal recollection of an event that may or may not have transpired pretty much exactly unlike you’ve described is more than enough proof to conclude that bosh is a total loser.

        • shats says:

          Of course, its all so obvious now, this *event* is just the evidence needed. In fact, if it wasn’t for Pops numerous three pointers and overall solid and mistake-free play, we may have lost the game in question.

  4. Cosa Nostra says:

    So we have Triano as headcoach, Marc Ivoroni as lead assistant and we have Alvin Williams as another assistant.

    Me thinks Alvin’s hiring had more to do with Jump starting ticket sales for MLSE. He was injured most of his career and what exactly is he going to teach Calderon? Why not grab a tactician instead. I don’t know bro time will tell what happens with this bunch.

    • yertu damkule says:

      yeah, ’cause nothing creates a rush to the box office than the hiring of an assistant coach. people will be TOTALLY JACKED for the chance to watch him sit on the bench.

      • Raps Fan says:

        LMAO +1

      • Cosa Nostra says:

        It’s why Triano was hired. he’s a Canadian boy. You don’t think his presence affects ticket sales? Same with Williams he’s an ex Rap. You don’t think he’ll out a few asses in the seats?

        • yertu damkule says:

          well, given the level of idiocy among raptor fans…i guess that’s possible.

          • Cosa Nostra says:

            So you think triano was hired because he’s a star himself? LOL . No. He was hired because he was a canadian citizien. Idiot.

            • My account rep at MLSE just told me season ticket sales haven’t spiked-up since the Triano announcement.

              If you think BC and Triano are counting on Williams to increase tickets sales since Triano couldn’t, than you’re…

              • Cosa Nostra says:

                I don’t care what your account rep said that probably makes 10$ /h selling popcorn.

                I would take the advice of an actual member of the board of directors. Triano was hired to boost ticket sales. Unless BC is stupid enough to think that he can win with us

  5. Cosa Nostra says:

    You’ll probably meet this guy called Marcus in practice. He doesn’t really play for us, he just counts against our cap, don’t waste your time on him. If he ever strikes up a conversation with you just tell him you’re only supposed to speak with Raptors players, staff and media and that he’s none of the above.

    —————————————–

    LOL That’s awesome!! Same could be said for Graham, Kapono, Vaskuhl, Hump, Ukic, Parker, O’bryant. Oh God we have so much trash on the payroll.

  6. Dino Gunners says:

    Alvin Williams was one of my favourite players too. I loved the swagger he played with. That line-up of:

    pg: williams
    sg: carter
    sf: mo pete
    pf: oakley / clark
    c: davis

    was a joy to watch and such a tough outfit

    • Cosa Nostra says:

      Agreed.

    • Marc says:

      Notice that: Besides Carter (and he was too busy scoring points) they were all great defenders.

      We need some more of that on next year’s roster.

      • khandor says:

        Actually …

        What the Raptors need more of is a player with the skill set and physical properties of a “Vincent Lamar Carter” [OG] … to go with a “Doug Christie” [SF], an “Antonio Davis” [PF], and the Jose Calderon [PG], plus Chris Bosh [C], who they already have.

        That’s the type of 5-Man Unit which could be competitive with the Magic, Celtics, Cavaliers and Pistons, today.

        • Paps says:

          Clearly

        • Marc says:

          D starts at the point. Calderon is a great offensive player but a mediocre defensive player. I don’t care if he has Yao Ming or Dwight Howard to back him up, that will always be a problem as long as he is here.

          With Calderon, the only reasonable option is to outscore your opponent, not outdefend.

  7. eyebleaf says:

    Best move the Raps have made in a long while. Giggity. Welcome back, Alvin.

  8. CaldeROSEN says:

    Hilarious post, Arsenalist!!

    I love the reference to hiring a super duper white haired coach who analyzes the playbook in the can. I’m just just picturing Nellie turning red in the face as squeezes out a Solomon, while drawing up a play.

  9. Iavaroni’s supposed to be a defensive minded dude?

    He was the lead assistant in Phoenix, where they didn’t play defense, and then he presided over one of the worst defensive teams in the league in Memphis in 07/08.

    This does not fill me with confidence…

    At least Alvin can give the boys some tips on recovering from surgery.

    • Cosa Nostra says:

      My thoughts exactly. 2 assistant coaches who haven’t proved anything in there careers thus far. Now you bring them together and they will be an overnight success?

    • Arsenalist says:

      Believe it or not, Iavaroni is a defensive-minded guy. He just wasn’t a very good head-coach and when he was in Memphis he was forced to move away form his strength of defensive coaching and come up with plays etc which he sucked at.

      I’m not making this up, I think we talked about this on the site with references to some Memphis blogs a couple months back.

      • I didn’t mean that to come across as doubting your statement, I just honestly had no idea that was supposed to be his strength. He just hasn’t exactly been involved with a lot of high intensity defensive teams lately.

        However, given the last two situations he has been placed in, I’m more than willing to give him a pass on his recent defensive record. Phoenix under D’antoni wasn’t exactly a place where defensive minded coaching or play could flourish, and Memphis was very young. Not to mention that for guys like Mayo and Gay defense is a secondary concern.

        If that is the case though, then you’re dead on about getting a Tex Winter type that could help architect that offense and make some solid in-game offensive adjustments.

    • yertu damkule says:

      uh, let’s not buy into the easy rhetoric that the suns ‘didn’t play defense.’ they did. just not overly well. was that a coaching issue, or a personnel issue? think about the suns’ rosters over that period of time – aside from raja & marion, name me another guy who would have been considered a ‘good’ defensive player (i.e. noticeably above-average).

      you also have to take into consideration that the suns played at a much faster pace than most teams, meaning more possessions, more scoring opportunities for both clubs, etc. their pace-adjusted defensive stats bear out that they weren’t nearly as bad as has been portrayed.

      and please, spare me the argument about how they ‘never won anything.’ i love hearing that, but not as much as i love hearing those same people, 5 minutes later, make that argument about how the league screwed them one season, and how they had another post-season end in part due to an injury to a key guy (JJ), and another season w/o amare. i love it when guys argue both sides (they lost because they ‘didn’t play any D,’ & that they lost due to misfortune/bad luck, etc.).

      • Brasky says:

        sorry, you beat me to it.

      • I didn’t mean to imply that when the other team got the ball Phoenix simply walked off the court and waited for them to give it back. I meant they didn’t play defense well.

        Sure, it was a personnel issue and a style of play issue. Doesn’t change the fact that it was bad, bad defense. And yes, Stoudemire and Nash are way below average pick and roll defenders, but at the same time Marion and Bell were better than most teams top two defenders.

        And I’ll gladly toss out the argument that “they never won anything”, although that really has nothing to do with what we’re talking about here. I’m not sure what your motivation was for going on at length about people who argue both sides, but I’ll argue that they never won anything because they were a great offensive team that lacked rebounding and defense, which was exposed year after year by San Antonio. Nothing to do with misfortune or bad luck. They were the worse basketball team in every series they lost.

        Regardles, your point is well taken. I was just pointing out that Iavaroni’s past coaching jobs haven’t exactly lent themselves to developing a top-tier defensive team. Regardless of whether or not you feel Phoenix’s defense was underrated, the fact remains that offense was the clear focus of that team.

        • yertu damkule says:

          yeah, sorry, got off on a tangent there re. the suns. my beef is the talking heads who seem to take great joy in pointing out that the suns ‘never played no D,’ & who then turn around & talk about how the suns would’ve won in year X, or year Y, or year Z, ‘if only’ such & such an event hadn’t happened.

          the problem is, both are actually true, but only to a degree. had the suns comitted more to D, they perhaps would have been able to go all the way.

          and if joe johnson doesn’t break his face, if amare doesn’t miss a year, and if amare/diaw don’t get suspended, it’s possible they could have gone all the way all three of those years.

          you’re right though, they did lose to a superior team in each case, twice to eventual champ spurs.

    • Brasky says:

      Phoenix actually wasn’t THAT bad, once you adjusted for their ridiculous pace. Plus any team with nash and stoudemire as your two main pick and roll defenders is at a disadvantage already.

      • Arsenalist says:

        Very good point. In the half-court set their main weakness is Nash, I even remember AP torching him for 30. Rondo killed him, even Duhon had his way with him. Once you got that kind of a weakness, doesn’t matter who the coach is, your defensive rotations need to be ultra-quick to make up for it. We saw that with Calderon last year.

        • Brasky says:

          Indeed. I don’t care what Khandor says, but the fact most opposing point guards can seemingly choose to blow by Calderon at will without help from the pick and roll (where him and bargnani are trash) is a serious detriment to the raptor’s team defense.

          • Swirskys Soldier says:

            Please remember when you make comments like this you also include this happened WHILE HE WAS INJURED. There was a day and night difference in Jose’s defense between the start/end of the season, and during mid season while he was injured.

          • yertu damkule says:

            as with all raptor weaknesses, we all know jose’s D can be pinned squarely on bargnani.

            i had a toothache last month…BARGNANI!!!!!

            • shats says:

              Actually your toothache was caused by your continuous grinding of your teeth when Bosh took an easy jumpshot that he usually makes, but didn’t drive the ball to the basket

        • j says:

          very true. because nash is a point guard very much suited for the run and gun style.he is really good if the team pushes. he isnt quick for the half-court style, he isnt young anymore to compete with the likes of cp3, rondo, he doesnt have the killer crossover (i believe) like tony parker.

          bosh is a better defender than amare. amare is lazy. even in his pre-surgery days, amare is just a tyrus thomas with a much better offensive awareness.

      • Swirskys Soldier says:

        I totally agree… once you adjust for pace Suns D turns out round average. By forcing teams into a fast paced game, its one of the rare times in the NBA where a good offense is the best defense.

  10. Cosa Nostra says:

    Survey:

    If BC was running the Bulls right now do you think he would trade Derrick Rose for Steve Nash?

    • yertu damkule says:

      who wouldn’t? i mean, to get a super-duper, multiple MVP like nash for guy who’s probably not going to amount to much, what’s the downside?

      • Cosa Nostra says:

        You dont understand sarcasm do you? Your so stupid honestly.

        • yertu damkule says:

          yes, i am stupid. what’s ’sarcasm?’ i’ve been told by others that sarcasm is some kind of failed attempt at humour, but as i’m stupid, i tend to forget things easily.

          here’s a thought, hawking: when pretty much each sentence you type contains numerous spelling or gramatical errors, calling others ’stupid’ loses a bit of significance. how bad am i supposed to feel about you calling me stupid, when the one line in which that thought was conveyed contained no less than 4 mistakes. there were only 10 words in your ‘thought’ – that’s an error-to-word ratio of 1:2.5! impressive.

          • Cosa Nostra says:

            Then why are you on this site for? All negativity from you with every post. Talk about basketball and don’t try and be a hero. I remember Alt raps and Arsenalist calling you out time and time again. You and Khandor are one of the annoying people on here. Stick to talking about ball.

            • yertu damkule says:

              well, i know when i’ve been beat…

              • Cosa Nostra says:

                Well how do you think khandor and Rapsfan feel? They have been beat all their lives I’m assuming so now they come here and insult people all day long for an ego boost. Don’t be like them bro. Don’t bro

              • Raps Fan says:

                Only pick on you cosa ;)

            • shats says:

              Of course Cosa Nostra, I’ve never heard you be negative or fail to talk about basketball competantly. Oh, and by insulting Khandor and Rapsfan, you’ve kind of insinuated the fact that you are the same. FYI, Read Khandor’s and Rapsfan posts, and tel me when they insult someone for no reason

          • FLUXLAND says:

            LMAO @ ratio.

      • Rapsfan9769 says:

        Downside??? you serious?? Nash has only 2-3 more years at a high-level. He’s already got all his back problems…its just gonna get worse. Youre giving away the #1 pick in a draft for an injury-waiting-to-happen. Not taking anything away from Nash, hes always been great, but it would just be a ridiculous move.

  11. Cosa Nostra says:

    But then again everyone here thinks Bosh can lead a team to a championship. First hope he leads to to an 8th spot and get into the playoffs. It might require we beat a 500 team here and there and it is a tough task.

  12. South cakalakie says:

    Three words…Junk Yard Dog.

  13. Rapsfan9769 says:

    BC should take one of the guards from golden state…crawford perhaps? Wed finally get a guy who can create his own shots…and make them.

    • Cosa Nostra says:

      No No No.

      Corey Magette is our answer. He puts up 20/10 every game. His teams always finished last for some reason in the West too but I thinks it’s because of his teammates not Corey. Lets give him 133 million over 6 years. He can be our Franchise player.

    • Crawford averaged 15 FGA last year and had a FG% of 40%.

      Crawford has averaged 15 FGA per game and is a career 40% shooter.

      He’s a streaky shooter who can get redhot and can create his own shot, but… he’s only ever been on a winning team once.

      In any event, whenever a GM speaks to GS, Crawford’s name always get brought up by GS.

  14. adenoids says:

    welcome back, alvin
    your dreams were your ticket out

  15. khandor says:

    re: the Suns ability to defend working under D’Antoni & Iavaroni

    It was the case that Phoenix was horrid defensively. It was the case, however, that the Suns did not defend well enough to win the western Conference during the SSOL era. Defense and Rebounding were simply not points of emphasis with those teams, that won a lot of regular season games but came up short in the playoffs … not from a case of bad luck, but … because they weren’t good enough.

    ———-

    re: Calderon’s ability to defend vs his individual check when he isn’t being picked by a Big

    You can count on two hands the number of times a healthy Jose Calderon actually gets beaten off the bounce by an opponent’s PG over the course of an 82 game season, and in the playoffs, in this specific situation.

    At his size, with his “adequate” quickness & strength, and given his ability to “gap” his check … this simply is not a weakness which Calderon has, in relation to the other No. 1 Point Guards in the league, many of whom are also less-than stellar in this aspect of the game.

    When Jose Calderon gets beaten by his individual check an inordinate number of times in a game … because every PG in the NBA gets beat off the bounce, once in a while, by opponents who are just THAT good, at this level of competition … it’s primarily because of two things:

    I. The Opposition is choosing to attack the Raptors Defense with a series of Pick & Roll/Pops to take best advantage of the poor defensive skills of the Raptors’ Bigs [most notably, Andrea Bargnani]; or,

    II. He is playing with an injury.

    • Edgar says:

      Defensively speaking how far of a gap is there between the current Orlando lineup and the old Pheonix one? Pace is different but defensively they all funnel to a great shotblocker in Dwight or Amare. They both play a 4 wing players + PG + Center approach.

      • yertu damkule says:

        ‘amare’ & ‘great shotblocker’ don’t tend to go together overly well…

      • khandor says:

        Edgar,

        IMO, the gap is a large one. This season, Orlando finished:

        - 6th in Points Allowed
        - 4th in Points Differential
        - 9th in Rebounding Differential

        performances levels never approached by those Phoenix teams.

        Dwight Howard is a superior shot blocker and defender to Amare Stoudemire.

        In general, SVG has an attention to detail at the defensive end of the floor that dwarfs anything put forth from Mike D’Antoni & Co.

    • Marc says:

      If Jose couldn’t play at 100%, he shouldn’t have been out there anyway.

      An injury is never an excuse for anything except for not playing.

      II is moot.

      • khandor says:

        I agree … there were several games this past season when Jose Calderon SHOULD NOT have been playing because he was far from being close to 100% healthy.

        For this, Bryan Colangelo [as the team's GM], and then Jay Triano [as the team's head coach], need to be held accountable.

  16. adenoids says:

    yeah, calderon’s “virtually” “bursting” with “adequatulence” on “d”

  17. mrmvilla says:

    *** Off Topic ***

    Have you guys seen the Raps Homepage? Just goes to show you that the Raps Mascot isn’t the only CLOWN in a Raps Jersey…

    What a Joke.

    • Edgar says:

      The R&R should send in a submission for a gangsta rap track pointing out the rediculousness of the project.

  18. COLANGELOS MASTER PLAN says:

    If Raptors Republics rap of the day is a moron challenging certain people to an unfair wager then:

    The person who chooses that as the rap of the day should be slapped seriously who picks this shit….

    What kind of rap was that.

    You guys are better then that. We deserve better than that.

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