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1. Los Angeles Clippers
Griffin is a no-brainer as the #1 overall pick. Every GM, every blog, every website has Griffin ranked as the top player in this draft. The bigger question here is how do the Clippers find touches or even minutes for all their big men (Kaman, Randolph, Camby, Thornton and Griffin)? |
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2. Memphis Grizzlies
Lots of talk about Memphis drafting Thabeet (and that may be true) but Memphis would be crazy to take him that high with so many teams as potential trading partners because of the interest in Rubio. Memphis may not draft Rubio but whoever they trade this pick to, will. |
3. OKC Thunder
Most see OKC looking to go big or draft a PG, but why wouldn’t they take Harden? He is NBA-ready and at the SG would allow them to play Green or Sefolosha at the SF which would move Durant to the 4 where he belongs. It would also give them a starting 5 of Westbrook, Harden, Sefolosha or Green, Durant and Kristic. |
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4. Sacramento Kings
Again, lots of PG talk but this is a team that needs a serious upgrade at the PF position and is passable everywhere else. Hill would be a beastly addition to a good young core that already boasts Udrih, Garcia, Martin and Hawes at the other spots. Jordan Hill can be afforded heavy minutes and get his NBA learning out of the way early. |
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5. Washington Wizards
For a team that, if healthy, should compete for the Eastern Conference title, the opportunity to add a multi-tool player like Holiday to the back court with other combo-style guards like Arenas and James would be a nice addition. Holiday has All-Star potential, he is a big guard who can defend both backcourt positions and score in bunches. Agent 0, meet your new best friend. |
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6. Minnesota Timberwolves
Even Minny cant screw this one up right? Al Jefferson and Kevin Love are good but neither has any real height or defensive prowess. The chance to add a defensive-minded shot blocking presence in the form of a 7-footer Thabeet would be the karma that Minny deserves for releasing Garnett and returning the Celtics to glory. |
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7. Golden State Warriors
Why not? Nellie loves guys who can jack up shots from anywhere but here’s the difference: Curry can actually hit them! Put him next to slashers like Ellis, Crawford, and Maggette and you have an excellent addition to the back court since he can play both guard positions on the “O”. He’d be an excellent solider on a team not known for “team-first players”. If you thought the run ‘n gun loving D’Antoni would like to get his hands on Curry, why wouldn’t Nelson? |
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8. New York Knicks
Even though most people feel that the Knicks would do back-flips to get their hands on Curry, Jennings may be the real steal of the draft. After a disappointing year in Italy, coach D’Antoni is precisely the remedy Jennings needs. After all, this guy should have been a lock for a top five pick if he had gone to college. Either way, in D’Antoni’s system Jennings has “all-star” written all over him. |
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9. Toronto Raptors
Someone posted last week that DeRozan is like Joey Graham with skill. Talk about an understatement. That’s like saying mini-wheats are like shredded wheat with sugar. Shredded wheat will always suck, while mini-wheats have the potential to rival top cereals everywhere. DeRozan may end up being a Gerald Green as one prominent draft prognosticator wrote last week but is much more likely to be a Vince Carter type player, especially on the Raptors where he’ll get to start, run, play with guys who make open shots (Calderon, Bargnani) and who command a double team (Bosh) |
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10. Milwaukee Bucks
Flynn has become a hot name over the last two months and Milwaukee need a point guard. His shooting is streaky and he is not the tallest guard in the draft, but he is a leader. The Bucks have lots of guys with talent but are in desperate need of a floor leader. Ramon Sessions has taken them as far as he can, it’s time for new blood at the 1 in Milwaukee. |
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11. New Jersey Nets
Rod Thorn always takes the best player available. If Evans is on the board at 11, Thorn will take him. It also gives NJ a nice insurance policy for Vince Carter, who lots of contending teams still have interest in every year at the deadline. |
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12. Charlotte Bobcats
Larry Brown insists that his players play “the right way”. The jury’s out on Henderson when it comes to his actual talent and ability and he’s still a bit of an enigma, some nights he drops 25 and others he is invisible but no matter what, he always hustles, plays defense and always plays “the right way.” He is the prototypical Coach K prodigy. |
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13. Indiana Pacers
The Pacers need size. They have a stud in Granger and when Dunleavy comes back they appear to be set in the wings. Troy Murphy can go off for 20 rebounds, but then goes a week where he is non-existent. Johnson won’t be flashy at the the 4 but will provide a solid consistent presence. This might be a bit of a stretch for a lottery pick, especially with both Louisville boys on the board, but Larry Bird has made it a point that character is a priority for players in Indy from now on. |
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14. Phoenix Suns
If Phoenix wants to run, let Amare go nuts, and find a real replacement for Marion, then Clark is the answer. He is unpolished and needs some refinement, but when you’re playing on a team with Nash, Amare, Hill, and Shaq you can afford your mistakes. He gives Phoenix the “guy who can score without his own shot” that they so desperately missed last season. |
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15. Detroit Pistons
He can score, he has a high basketball IQ and on the right team he can come in and help right away. Plus, with both Rip and Prince on the trading block, Daye provides some insurance and if Boozer or Bosh do end up in Detroit, then Daye can take some time to develop as a sixth man on a good team. It also gives Joe Dumars a young core of Stuckey, Daye, Prince, Maxiel, and Johnson (and a ton of cap space) to move forward and rebuild. |
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16. Chicago Bulls
Cant see the Bulls keeping this pick, but if they do, Blair would be the obvious choice since the Bulls still lack a low-post player. Most draft boards have Blair as a lottery pick but his lack of height (even though he got a 7′4 wingspan) and his weight (even though he looked fit ‘n trim at the combine) have raised Tractor-trailer or Big Baby comparisons and that might be enough to see him slip on draft night. |
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17. Philadelphia 76ers
Andre Miller could be heading out of town and while Lou Williams is nice, the Sixers need help at PG. Teague is NBA-ready and could step in next season as the starter on a good young team and that would free up 10 million in cap space for them to spend in the off-season. |
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18. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Miami)
Having already secured Thabeet in the top 5, Minny now turns to getting a PG. While Teague or Maynor may be a “safer” pick, Minnesota lacks winners and Lawson is a winner. His draft stock has surprisingly taken a hit in the two months since winning the NCAA title with North Carolina, but at 18 he would be a steal and his pedigree would help a Minnesota team with an identity complex. The North Carolina system has known to cast a shadow on a player’s true talent. |
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19. Atlanta Hawks
How many times can one team pass up drafting a point guard? Maynor is a solid guard who is ready to start in the NBA and along with Acie Law should be able to fill the void if Bibby leaves this summer. Even if he doesn’t, he could take over in a year or two when Bibby is finally shown the exit. The Hawks need insurance at PG and they won’t be screwing this one up again. |
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20. Utah Jazz
Tall, white, awkward, has potential….send him to Utah! But seriously, Okur and Boozer will soon depart (either this year or next) and a guy like Mullens would fit nicely next to the smaller but equally beastly Millsap for the next decade. Had Mullens even played decent this season he would have landed top 10 in this draft. He still may rise (7 footers have a history of going higher on draft night then predicted) but if around at 20, I think he is the best fit for Utah, especially considering the Utah staples of Williams, Miles, Brewer and Millsap. |
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21. New Orleans Hornets
The Hornets too often fell victim to long periods of drought – no baskets, bone-head plays, and no-one other than CP3 to turn to. Hansbrough would be a great fit in New Orleans, his motor never stops and the guy is a worker. As the first guy off the bench he would be a great compliment to the West-CP3 combo by adding serious hustle and garbage points night-in and night-out. What’s even better is that the cash strapped Hornets could deal West to a team like the Pistons (who are looking for an All-Star PF for a real wing player like Prince and then start Tylerhans at the 4. He won’t dominate the NBA like he did college, and many people feel he is nothing more than a Christian Laetner type of player, but, Hansbrough has talent and will make a team compete. |
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| 22. Dallas Mavericks Look for Dallas to draft the most talented player on the board as they are a team with a lot of holes. However, with Josh Howard on the block (and maybe the easiest way to fill all those holes) – Williams would be a nice replacement.
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23. Sacramento Kings (via Houston)
Best point guard that nobody knows about (outside of Internet basketball geeks like myself) would be a great addition to the Kings and would eventually replace Udrih as the point guard of the future in Sactown. This of course if they don’t manage to swing a deal with Memphis for Rubio. |
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24. Portland Trailblazers
Portland needs a guy to pair with Roy in the back court. But not just any player, they need a mature guard who is not flashy, does not demand the ball, does not seek out his own shot, and can distribute the rock. For the last two years Collison has queitly gone about his business at UCLA while letting high profile prospects Westbrook and Holiday take all the prestige. He is a solid guard and would be a nice addition to Portland. Plus, he is tough as nails and McMillan would love this guy. |
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25. OKC Thunder (via San Antonio)
Think of Ronaldo Balkman on speed. Think of JYD with talent. Think of a guy who will run the court for 48 minutes, who has size, speed, and is a beast on the boards. If Carroll were to go back to Missou he’s looking at the lottery for sure in 2010. Instead, he may parlay his excellent tournament into a first round pick as OKC, after shoring up their back court with Harden, will look for a 6th man to back up Durant. |
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26. Chicago Bulls (via Denver)
At 26 you take whatever you can get. Buddinger is the best talent still on the board and the Bulls who once had too many wing men to think about, could find themselves needing depth at the 2-3. They dealt both Sefolosha and Noccioni at the deadline, could loose Gordon as an FA, and Deng is apparently on the block. Buddinger would be a nice back up to Salmons and let both Rose and Hinrich play together in the backcourt. |
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27. Memphis Grizzlies (via Orlando)
The Grizzlies need size in the front court to pair with the excellent backcourt of Conley Jr, Gay, and Mayo. While I imagine any deal that includes the #2 overall pick would address this issue, a guy like Lawal would be a nice pick-up at 27. At 19 he has huge upside but is not close to being NBA-ready and while he probably should return to GT, if he sticks in the draft he would be a steal at 27 since after two more seasons at GT he would be in the lottery and probably even in the top ten. |
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28. Minnesota Timberwolves (via Boston)
If Minnesota could walk away from this draft with Thabeet, Lawson, and Ellington what a night it would be in State of Lakes! Ellington brings all the same intangibles as Lawson in addition to great defense and a scorers touch. I see a lot of Grant Hill in him. Think of a starting five of Thabeet, Jefferson, Love, Ellington, Lawson and a bench that includes Miller, Foye and Brewer. That’s more talent than the Raptors. |
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29. Los Angeles Lakers
He is the perfect guard for the triangle: big, good court vision, and can stick his shot when needed. Even though he is heading to Greece, LA would be smart to own his rights for 3 reasons:
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30. Cleveland Cavaliers
Best player available, most boards have Young as a first round pick. He is very strong and an excellent rebounder that, when paired next to Lebron at the 2, opposing wing players would hate to play due to the physical beating they would endure. |
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phdsteve or Arsenalist,
I will make you this standing offer, in effect until 12 noon, June 26, 2009.
I will wager that the Oklahoma Thunder neither drafts nor trades for James Hardin in the upcoming NBA Draft.
If I’m right, you owe me $100 [or a nominal amount of your own choosing].
If I’m wrong, I owe you the same $100, instead.
[If I'm wrong, I will pay you via Paypal. Likewise, if you're wrong, you will pay me the same way.]
Deal, or No Deal?
[Personally, I think that Arsenalist will decline my offer; but, phdsteve, I'm not quite so sure about you.]
Hey *********** (khandor)….get back to me on the 25th around 9 pm and i will take this bet…
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As per the fallout yesterday, I will be editing comments when they are useless and attack another commenter. Although funny/entertaining, we want to play nice.
Raps Fan.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
:)
Why would you do that, Raps Fan, you are such an idiot and a bad writer :). Oh look, time to bow down and give thanks to the deity that is Cosa Nostra
Attack me all you want, cause I revel in it. But I’m not bowing down to anyone. Just trying to avoid this joint becoming a real gm forum of swill.
Hey mate, completely joking. It’s hard to type sarcasm, but I thought you would have recognized it from the Cosa Nostra comment
dude i totally got it :) just saying.
bloody terrorists.
Hell no! 1:1 odds for them picking one player versus 30 others? I’d be damn stupid to touch that bet. Besides, I disagreed with phdsteve about that pick anyway.
Arsenalist,
ROTD?
As I said … expected that you would pass this by, and thought that phdsteve would probably do likewise. There’s a “sucker” born every minute of the day and neither of you fit into that category, IMO.
Others with an interest in “cashing in” … feel free to step up to the plate. [Big Smile, on face.]
Caveat Emptor
Am I the only one who noticed that he was willing to bet you right up until the day after the draft??? Am I wrong here? the draft is the 25th….
For conversation sake, who do you think OKC “will” and/or “should” draft?
Since they have Jeff Green playing power foward, I would say they need size quite badly, so I’ll go with Thabeet, although there is massive bust potential. Harden would also fill a gap at Shooting guard, but how much scoring do you need from the perimeter (I wish I could say that about the raptors)
Thabeet makes sense here, but I’m just not sold on him. Arsenalist has a better offensive game then he does.
They don’t need the offence. The other kids can score in bunches. Their D sucks. Thabeet takes care of that in part.
Khandor would never make such a prediction. He likes to say just enough to leave himself in a position of advantage, but he’ll never go beyond that point where someone else can later say, ‘man, you were dead wrong on that one’.
Well, he did predict Detroit vs. LA at the beginning of the year for the Finals… He go half of it, so that’s worth something, right?
James,
IMO, the Thunder will take a player who is perceived to be more “athletic” than James Hardin. Hardin is a lot of good things, as a basketball player, but “dynamic” is not one of them, at his size and with his specific skill set.
It looks as though Sam Presti has a specific blue-print in mind for the future development of his team and, IMO, Hardin does not fit according to that vision.
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Q1. Who might I think the Thunder will take with their pick?
A1. IMO, it’s a waste of time to “speculate” about this. There are too many possiblities, at this point, and not much in the way of accuracy involved with such talk.
“IMO, it’s a waste of time to “speculate” about this. There are too many possiblities, at this point, and not much in the way of accuracy involved with such talk.”
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except, thats the point of a mock draft- and some of us are not afforded that luxury.
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$100 says I get at least 1 right!
phdsteve,
Just because that’s the reason I don’t engage in such activity … in response to the question which James asked of me … doesn’t mean that I expect you [and others] to do likewise. If mock drafts are what you choose to do that’s quite alright with me. It’s your time and energy.
1 out of 30 would seem to be about right, percentage wise.
re. sacto – no mention of thompson? and udrih is a ‘good’ player? PG not their greatest weakness? PF is? pick jordan hill? wtf?
re. OKC – i think they’re pretty happy w/ green at the 4. and durant at the 3…though in the end, it probably doesn’t matter much.
can’t see either derozan or evans being available at the 9. harden seems to be a guy who will slip.
no way earl clark is 6′10″. i’m thinking sam young will go earlier.
I agree. Your Sacramento reasoning is all bogus. It’s a consensus that they need a PG.
I’ve got a feeling that Jennings is going to fall outside the top-10.
1 – Griffin
2 – Rubio
3 – Thabeet (they need a D-minded centre more than a 2 guard. The guys they have can handle the scoring but their D sucks)
4 – Jennings (need a PG more than PF although I agree with you about Mills and would love the Raps to buy a late pick to get him)
5 – Jordan Hill
6 – Harden
7 – Curry (They need a PG that can run and hit….Curry will do)
8 – Flynn (Jonny gets his dream job in NYC and LEADS a Knicks team in a style he’ll flourish in….damn I’d love him in a Raps uni).
9 – DeRozan (I agree with all you said, although I would be happy with Evans as well)
10 – Who cares what happens in Milwakee….
****I’m hoping the Raps get a 2nd pick in the 20’s to get one of Mills/Budinger/T Williams/S Young
“Someone posted last week that DeRozan is like Joey Graham with skill. Talk about an understatement. That’s like saying mini-wheats are like shredded wheat with sugar. Shredded wheat will always suck, while mini-wheats have the potential to rival top cereals everywhere.” that’s freakin hilarious.
Interesting Mock draft, I highly doubt Evans and Derozan will both be available to the raptors. Which do you reckon the raps would take given the choice?
If both available I’d go with DeRozan slightly ahead of Evans. Evans is a 1-2 and DeRozan is a 2-3. Both would be nice. I think DeRozan has more upside so he gets a slight edge. But it’s a crap-shoot anyway.
+1
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Personally, I’d like the guy I draft to have, you know…some actual skill.
DeRozan might be what we thought Joey could have been, but he’ll never be what we need I don’t think. None of our current wings can get to the rim on their own.
Evans gives us the dynamic creating wing that we haven’t had since Wince. And the fact that if we play him next to Jose and Shawn, he and Shawn could take the toughest two defensive matchups and give Jose what’s left makes him very hard to pass up.
The dude can play spot point, and we all know that it never hurts to have a better ball-handling backcourt. If we’re talking in terms of actual skill, DeRozan has NOTHING on Evans besides a Jamario Moon level J.
I’d bank more on Evans getting a jumper than I would on DeRozan learning to drive and create.
And while I still don’t understand this internet-wide infatuation with DeRozan, I hope it continues and he’s taken before the Knicks at 8. That would leave us a pretty decent shot at Evans.
All true points about Evans for sure. But I still say Derozan has more skill/upside….slightly.
Sessions didn’t even get a full year to start for the Bucks. I don’t know why, but for more than half the season Ridnour started ahead of him.
Also, Troy Murphy was surprisingly consistent last year.
Spudz
http://www.altraps.com/forum
I could see Memphis trading down to Sacramento. The Kings take Rubio at #2 and then The Grizz take Jordan Hill at #4.
Anybody that drafts Rubio will wait 2 years to get him, as he has a buy out of 5 mil Euros each of the next 2 years in Europe, that he must pay.
That’s a lot of money, could drop him a few slots.
i’d heard it wasn’t that much (5M (euros) x2 seems REAALLY high). i thought they’d negotiated a lower buyout, since rubio, from what i understood, was definitely coming over for ‘09/’10.
Raptors @ 9 will have the choice of upgrading the SG position, scoring with Evans and DeRozan, if available and of defending, with Williams and Henderson, all of whom will be able to be rotaion players in ‘09/10.
About Tyler Hansbourough…if he was in NOH, this white dude can surely replace the waste of space players such as Useless Bowen and Sean Marks because he can actually play basketball!
has anyone seen who espn has the raps taking in mock draft 3.0 (for what it’s worth..)
Dunno….I hate that espn has that stupid insider that you have to pay for.
It’s actually worth the money if you want breaking stuff. I had it for a couple years, loved it.
NO….not an insider, who they got?
not sure..not an insider either…usually the list filters out somewhere…just haven’t seen it yet
They have them taking Derozan
same as the free post you are reading here.
“He is NBA-ready and at the SG would allow them to play Green or Sefolosha at the SF which would move Durant to the 4 where he belongs”
Durant is a great 3…….Green is an undersized 4 and he’s 30 pounds heavier. If Kevin Durant played the 4, he would be injured 60 games a Year.
The Raps need Tyreke Evans, I always thought he was a point/tweener, but with the recent measurements (He’s bigger than wade), he would be an amazing 2 guard.
Get er Done BC.
sure, why not. ‘cept that he’s a point, always was before last year, when he was moved to the 2 ’cause it made more sense for memphis, and he moved back to the point later in the year. oh, and the fact that the ’shooting’ part of ’shooting guard’ is somewhat important, i’m a little sketchy with the notion of him at the 2, even if he can physically handle it. now, as an athletic point, and occasional 2…well, that’s something else. until he proves he can be a consistent outside threat, that excellent driving ability will be somewhat negated, as defenses simply slough off & give him the jumper.
Obviously any rookie we draft isn’t going to be starter out of the gate.
With Evans, he would be the ideal athletic back-up PG. At worst, he fights Roko for minutes.
And we should still retain Parker as a veteran able to handle 25+min per game at either guard position – especially if Jose misses a stretch of games. The last thing we need is a rookie and 2nd year PG tandem.
As far as Evans “developing” into a “shooting guard”, I would expect/hope that he’ll be able to improve his shooting year-after-year to effectively play the position.
I wonder if it’s embarrassing having an older brother in the league who’s most (in)famous moment was when he grabbed another dude’s balls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcinlrgojk
Simon: Gold.
Thanks.
Whoops, apparently they aren’t related, different Reggie Evans.
Still. Any reason to post that video was worth it.
Based on this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/sports/ncaabasketball/21preps.html?_r=1
I question whether Colangelo would have concerns over Tyreke’s character. Even though it was his cousin, being the driver of a car during a shooting might set off alarm bells. I know the Raps need to get tougher, but I don’t think you can bring a gun onto the court.
CaldeROSEN,
Tyreke Evans is going to be a very good NBA player, and the tale of his involvement in that particular incident should have little bearing on which team drafts this month.
If the Raptors were in a slightly different situation than what they find themselves today, I might even say that he’s THE player they should be looking to acquire from this draft.
If Bryan Colangelo let’s him pass by, at No. 9, it should be for different reasons involving the other good players who will still be available later in this draft.
In the Raptors current situation … they need to come away from this draft with MORE than just 1 good additional player, and the way to do that is not by taking Tyreke Evans with that pick.
I saw Evans compared to Wade on some mock drafts and number 2 Tyrke evans had the biggest wingspan i believe for a SG, he beat wade by just a bit. . . So Tyreke evans game is more fitting for the NBA. . . If a guy can break guys down im sure he’s gonna read the criticisms and improve his jump shot. . . But i love him cuz he’s a slasher!!! The raptors should be a mid first round pick and then trade up through cash or even one or two prospects . . . Imagine if we can get another lottery pick? Evans and Derozan would be solving a lot of problems. . . Plus we sign marion and parker. . . Kapono can be used as a chip to move up. . . Joey Gram as well . . .
you must have been drunk when you posted this;
there is no way that any team in the lottery is going to give up their pick for Kapono.
that is all.
oh yeah…alvin williams joining the team as an assistant. something about it just warms my heart, and puts a smile on my face. i honestly have no idea how he’ll be as a coach, but he was probably, all things considered, my favourite raptor (or at least top-3), so to see him back in the fold makes me happy.
if he brings to his new role what he brought as a player, he should do just fine…and the raps should be better for it.
Every coaching staff needs someone who’s recently retired from the league who can understand and relate to the players. Alvin fits the bill.
And they need a guy like Iavaroni who can say, “back when I won a ring with Dr. J. . . . now get your sorry asses back out there and play better”
Duncan i didn’t say trade kapono for a draft pick but im sure you can use him as a chip in some way to buy a pick! wouldn’t a team like cleveland be interested, they’ll have a sniper that lebron can feed! doin a trade wally for kaponno might be not a bad idea. . . wally would be cheaper and plus he’s more tradable
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