The “payback’s a bitch” edition
Banks – dead weight.
Bargnani – faker.
Bosh – absolute bonehead play late fourth in not hustling to the ball and letting Dixon blow by you, steal it, and score what could have been the dagger. To make up for it, he did what franchise players do: win the game. Hit a wide open 3, sending the paying customers home disgruntled and making that flight to Chicago all that more enjoyable. 25/15, a smile, and a whole bunch of glaring into the eyes of the doubters.
Calderon – in a just world, he would have put up another double double today. I actually found myself pulling for the matador, thinking it would be a great way for him to close out a dismal year for him. He fell well short, but did show that his greatest value to us is a distributor and only when he takes the time to look for the best possible option as opposed to just one guy continually throughout the game.
Douby – wow…lets hope this game isn’t indicative of a guy who signs a deal and decides to rest on his (small) laurels. Zero points and only 2 assists in 9 minutes? Pathetic.
Graham – nice night. Took some smart shots, no posing for the camera, and looked like he was actually a focal point in some plays run by Triano. Has to be a nice confidence boost at the end of the season.
Humphries – 
Kapono – his season kind of reminds me of that high school kid that is just barely cool enough to sit at your table in the cafeteria. One day he comes in and wows you with some Playboys, the next day he brings in tuna. Today, JKap decided to bring in tuna AND asparagus.
Marion – if you translated his first quarter into female form, you’d have pregnancy-era Halle Berry from the chest up. Nearly achieving a double double in the first frame, he was playing out of his mind. Peppered throughout the rest of the game was some pretty good defense. Don’t know if he was pulling it out of his ass to try and burn away the memories of the last few games, but add in a 25/15 and I’d say he did done good.
Mensah-Bonsu – surprisingly no blocks, but some nice board clean-up. Still a horrible shooting performance and as Jack pointed out, he is very easily stripped as he drives to the hoop. Maybe he’s a Bosh fan.
O’Bryant – still a fan, but his fouling is driving me bananas and no way a guy of his length plays 20 minutes and gets only one board. I’ll give him a nicely timed block, but if I had arms like a tarantula, I would be Inspector Gadgeting every ball that was even close to me.
Parker – not much to say here. His game is like getting socks at Christmas. Nice and can be put to good use, but you’d rather have NBA 2k9.
Ukic – as bad as Douby was, Roko was worse. Don’t worry little piggies, daddy is coming home soon. If he enters camp next year with little improvement, he needs to be cut. Think about it: he has had a year of on the job training and if you heard his name in the starting lineup, you’d probably get out of your seat and walk out.
Voskuhl – at least he got on the floor. 4 minutes, 2 turnovers, 1 foul. Last seen heading to the White House to see if Obama can give him a pardon for his sins.
Driving The Bus: Chris Bosh
Under The Bus: Jason Kapono
Game Theme:
83 Raps
I think Bosh could be clutch if he isn’t forced create his own shot. And the Kapono line was gold!!!!
The mere fact that your superhero Christine takes any threes is a joke and shows how big a loser he is and how much he thinks of himself which speaks to get his almost Marbury like self loving ass out of town quick.
Then calling Bargnani a faker because the coach sits him to not further an Achilles injury to the only star player the Raps have left with upside potential shows just how bad your roll calls have become. Sorry but you should give it up.
Relax he hit a game winning 3pointer! plus he had 15 rebounds…bosh played amazing, are you stupid?
No I’m not stupid and I did not watch last nights game so whether he made it or not my point is he’s brain dead for trying threes at all other than if absolutely necessary, but looking at the box score and seeing he took two, makes me think he didn’t have to on both so as I said before Bo9sh is braindead ( shoots the three at just over 200%….worse than Moon) and I hope I never see him in a Raptor uniform again after the next game.
You kidding me? Roll calls are lol calls and if you can’t take it that way, you must be a tad sorer in the bum than the rest of us are about this season.
Amen
haha tuna!! i hate that kid!!!
well, i would have been disappointed with Bosh’s 3, if it weren’t a completely open shot to end the game. He didn’t create it, but it was open for him to take.
Much like Duncan’s three in the playoffs, this was just an incident of an unlikely suspect getting the ball in a good spot, even for someone who does not normally hit 3s, who is otherwise covered.
Bosh is the clutchest player in the league as long as he’s playing in Game 81 and his team is touching 20 games under .500. What a playa!! Hand him the max! Now!
no joke…id give him the max…hes not in his prime yet, id stay with the guy.
Staying with a guy and giving him 130M/6yr are two different things. You might be comfortable paying Bosh 21M+ per year but I’m not. Truth is that only a handful of players command that money and Bosh is not one of them. He’ll make 16M next year and 17M the year after, that’s already going past his worth.
What other 4/5 (not named Nowitzki) is asked to face his man up and score 1-on-1 to win games? The fact that the Raps have no wings that can break their man down can’t be blamed on Bosh; he’s asked to things at the end of games that nobody else is expected to do. This man is 2 seasons removed from 2nd team All-NBA and 7th place MVP vote, and 8 months removed from playing a key role on a team loaded with the best players in the NBA.
Remember home game #1 against GS? Remember Bosh winning that game for the Raps with his play in OT? Nobody here can suggest that game was meaningless.
I wish I were surprised to hear criticisms following a game-winning 3 with nice rim protection on the ensuing possession…
Like I said b4 bosh could be a clutch player if the whole game was depended on him (like getting a clutch putback, block, and etc.). I agree with arse that Bosh is not worth max. Hes at best a second bananna on a championship team.
*If the whole game wasn’t depended on him
I think Arse’s point is that Bosh is super-clutch as long as the game isn’t super-meaningful. And not meaningful in the sense of him really really wanting to win it and the other team equally wanting to win it. But meaningful in the sense that it’s a step toward a championship. And I agree with him. Bosh is a nice player and a decent human being, but at best he’s a 1A, and more likely a 2 on a championship team. So if you give him the max, you’re pretty much screwed in terms of championship aspirations.
Bosh already makes more than he’s worth at $14.5 million. Most he’s worth is $10 to $12 so like I’ve said before trade him quick. Any attempt to give him more than that will cripple this team with a huge contract on a very good ( slow, predictable, methodical) player that will never be clutch, and never take them anywhere.
The only scenario in which paying Bosh the full-max involves MLSE paying the luxury tax to bring back Marion and acquire a top-tier SG who can create his own shot.
KG, Dirk, Amare are all as good as Bosh. But their teams all pay the luxury tax to surround them with equally talented players.
I never thought of that because the idea that MLSE would knowingly go over the cap into luxury tax territory never crossed my mind…it’s pretty much hard to believe. If money was not the issue then of course I would keep Bosh, and add the right players to the mix but that’s not likely so we need to see what they’ll do within the cap.
I wish they’d change the name from Luxury Tax to something like Championship Ante. Then teams would be more interested in paying it.
don’t forget that we also must be playing against the worst team!
comparing kapono with tuna and asparagus is unfair to flaky fish in a can and pickled green vegetables everywhere
tuna is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
better than Kapono.
see bosh screaming after he hit that fluke 3…..like he won something.oh yeah he did.less ping pong balls…..thx u fucking cunt.
Are you serious?
Have you ever competed competitively in any sport?
To bitch at a guy for hitting a game winning shot and celebrating is saying that the sport is 0% about playing the sport to compete and to have fun. Not true. And definitely not the kind of attitude I would want to have in our best player, “franchise” or not.
Amen to that.
the leader and example setter for our homos has followers.aint it grand?
I think it’s that the team has fans. What a concept.
sticking the dagger to any team is fun, regardless of how significant it is (or isn’t)
Were you this hard on Jose Calderon in his rookie year?
Fairly hard. Difference here though is that, as I stated in an earlier post, Roko’s issues are some that should have been worked on prior to his arrival here. You don’t have to be in the NBA to be a good passer or make smart in-the-crunch decisions. Roko suffers from both of those issues and to a great extent.
Jose had issues shooting the ball, but his court vision and ability to run an offense were evident from day one. It was up to him to improve his long range shooting and he did. Roko has a task ahead of him this summer and next year. For our sake, I’m hoping he takes the challenge and runs with it. However, the fact we just signed Quincy makes me wonder if management is starting to get a bit concerned as well.
That video freaked me out…
Bosh is a max player you guys are nuts. It’s time Toronto stopped chasing it’s stars out of town and gave them the keys to city in every sense.
Giving Bosh the max is like sitting at home telling yourself every year that the Leafs are a great playoff team, because you love all the loser players and are ok with waiting 100 years for a real team. Bosh is no more a max player than the majority of the guys on the first three all start team picks yesterday, of which Bosh rightfully was missing.
If BC gives him max money I will not renew my season tickets which I’ve had since day one.
I think that there are scenarios that exist where a team could win with bosh on a max contract.(If for instance he was traded near the end of the contract to a semi-contender) I don’t think the raptors are in the right position to offer him max $ and win.
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If BC gives him max money I will not renew my season tickets which I’ve had since day one. – by Pizzaman
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If only this was a promise you would actually keep. : )
I will and I will also keep my tickets because I know BC has enough brains to trade him this summer.
Bosh is worth at least 15. Look at the market for big men. Okafor, bogut and Biedrins both pull in 10-12 and they arent at the same level.
I respect your opinion, but would argue that in my opinion at least Biedrins is definitely in the same leauge and I think can be a better, more serviceable team player than Bosh. I’m hoping we trade Bosh for Biedrins and maybe another player ( Belinelli?), plus maybe a draft pick or Biedrins plus their number one pick.
Biedrins is two years younger than Bosh, and only plays 30 minutes per game to Bosh’s 38. He gets over 11 boards to Bosh’s 8.5 and would translate to almost 15 boards over the same minutes. He scores 12 points a game in 30 minutes or 16 in the 38 minutes Bosh gets with far more efficient shooting at .575% to Bosh’s .490% and does not attempt any threes like Bosh. He also averages twice as many blocks at 1.5 per 30 minutes versus Bosh at 1 per 38 minutes. Biedrins is also a way better defender than Bosh, and a better passer. He also has a huge plus that Bosh doesn’t have…he doesn’t think he’s MVP and worth max money. Biedrins would be a way better fit on the Raptors for less money leaving more available for a real shooting guard which this teams desperately needs to win, especially if we keep Marion at the small forward.
Ridiculous.
This year, Bosh is getting nearly 10 boards per game, not 8.5, which is very respectable. Lately he’s been on a rebounding tear, with Bargnani seemingly picking up some of the offense.
Biedrins is a very proficient full time garbage man. Bosh is more or less a 25 year old bean pole responsible for carrying his entire team’s offensive, defensive, and until recently – with the arrival of marion and pops – rebounding load. He’s shown he can’t do absolutely everything by himself consistently .. he’s not a lebron, or a wade, or a duncan/garnett. He’ll never be a perennial MVP candidate. Not many are.
But make no mistake, he is still a top 10 player trying to carry a shit team all by himself. Get this man a legitimate wing, for god’s sake. Management has had countless opportunities to get him a great running mate, and have blown it every time. If Bosh focused all his energy on being strictly a hustle garbage player, he would do it very well. Even then, he’d still have many times the offensive impact as Andries Biedrins.
Sorry screwed up on the boards and he is almost 10 per..The rest I cannot agree with other than Bosh is a great basketball player but nowhere near the MVP list, and nowhere near worth max money or even what he’ll earn next year on the Raps. At best he’s in the top twenty or thirty players in the league and he’s not a game changer. Also he’s way too predictable and his game has not changed in two years. He’s easy for a real PF to defend ( Garnett,Duncan, etc..) and Bosh has never ever produced against a real defender. At best he’s a team’s 2nd or third option on offence, and is too slow to play uptempo ball.
I see what you’re sayin, he tends to fade under extremely tough matchups and powerhouse teams. If he had a real wing like ginobli or a pierce to kick it out to and ease some of the triple teams he gets hammered with, he wouldn’t look so overwhelmed.
Maybe you’re right because I have not seen him play with a sf or sg that actually has the talent to draw a defender and create his own shot. Bosh may indeed be a way better player with a great wingman, but he would have to give up the idea that he is the saviour and everything goes through him to actually win. If they had a true sg and or sf, and they really distributed the ball like a team then yes Bosh, Bargs,Marion, a great SG, and maybe Jose could be a very good team. Also Jose would need a slap in the head to make him pass the ball quickly to the open man as he would become the weakest link on the above team.
and what is your reasoning behind Bosh being selected to the ultimate all star team: the US Olympic team?
Just wondering.
STATS plain and simple versus anything else, plus the fact that Bosh would be used as a piece of the puzzle versus the star. When you pick an Olympic team you are picking a team for the way they mesh not just for individual skills. They knew that Bosh would work hard, and play team ball as he would know that from a talent perspective he was not even close to first option offensively on this team, but more of a role player ( which by the way is why I believe he played great). I did not ever say Bosh is no good, jut that he’s not the MVP stud he says he is. Also that I believe the Raps have gone too far already in making Bosh believe he’s the man and this is his team etc.., for him to really change and play like he’s an important piece of a good team but not the only great piece. We need to reinvent the team concept on the Raps and I don’t believe we can do it with Bosh here.
I can see what you see in Biedrins. I would be happy to have him on the raps. But there is a reason why you need to toss someone in with Biedrins for Bosh. Its because hes better. Biedrins isn’t the scorer and is spending much less effort on the offensive side of the ball than bosh is. He doesn’t have teams drafting their defensive schemes specifically for him. The demands on bosh and the demands on biedrins are completely different. Hes playing in a system that plays at one of the fastest paces in the league meaning more oppotunity for rebounds and points within the same amount of games played. Same as the SSOL bumps up the suns numbers, the same can be said for GS. Lastly. you forgot his most glaring flaw. He cant be in the game at the end of the game. His free throw shooting is terrible. Bosh is one of the best shooting big men in the league.
Sanders,
Your observations are on the $$$.
Sorry Sanders I just got the most glowing confirmation that what I’m saying may be in fact true because the Great Khan just said you are on the money, therefore by definition only you must be wrong since IMO Khan is a complete retard.
sorry same amount of minutes played.
I left out free throw numbers on purpose because you’re right but teams have won championships with bad free throw shooters ( Shaq), and Howard sucks at FT’s too but I’m sure you would take him. Biedrins would fit the Raps better and allow for more ball distribution than we currently have leading to more good looks versus the Jose / Bosh love affair we have now with the slow down pump, fake, pump, fake maybe shoot, maybe try for a foul, etc…
I do believe Bosh is a great player but that’s where it stops. We will not win with him, and the reason you would get more than Biedrins back is because we’ve made Bosh the big star and he has the stats that Biedrin’s does not because Bosh is a player that wants to win but thinks he can do so padding his own stats instead of making the team better.
What about Bosh and Jose for Biedrins and Ellis?
In a minute without thinking about it if GS was crazy enough to make that deal.
The combo of Ellis & Biedrins is so far behind Calderon & Bosh it’s beyond comical.
Monta Ellis is an under-sized OG who is learning how to function as a PG in the NBA and almost had the lack of sense to nullify his multi-million dollar contract extension by lying about his moped accident last summer. He is a terrific scorer; that’s all.
Andre Biedrins is a solid young defensive-minded, rebounding Center, who is athletic enough and capable enough to block his fair of shots and finish open layups close to the basket. He is an effective role player but does not display the type of leadership traits it takes to become a dominant performer in the NBA, at the Center position.
When healthy, Jose Calderon is a high end Point Guard. Period.
When healthy, Chris Bosh is a high end Center. Period.
+1
The Raptors’ chances for victory in yesterday’s game were actually improved when Andrea Bargnani was not in the line-up at all.
When …
* Chris Bosh gets the chance to play Center for the Raptors, on a full-time basis, and
* Jose Calderon is healthy, and
* Roko Ukic only gets to play 5 minutes overall, and
* Shawn Marion gets to play more minutes at the #4/PF spot
the Dinos are a much better team.
Coupled with the absence of Arenas, and the 4th quarter injury to Antawn Jamison, with the Wiz up @ 10, and Ed Tapscott’s decision to go with Juan Dixon at the PG spot, coming down the stretch, instead of Javaris Crittenton … the Raptors found themselves in a highly winnable situation late in yesterday’s game. It was nice to see Bosh come through and finally hit a game-winning shot.
IMO, those who think that this young man’s “upside” no longer exists … simply do not know how to assess NBA talent accurately.
“those who think that this young man’s “upside” no longer exists … simply do not know how to assess NBA talent accurately.”
You’re a very knowledgable guy, but it’s statements like this that make you come off as a huge douche. And this one wasn’t even really as condescending as what you normally spit out.
Every year he’s played in the NBA, thus far, Chris Bosh has gotten better as a basketball player. He’s a multiple-time All-Star. He finished the 2008 Olympic Games as the Starting Center for the USA’s National Team that captured the Gold Medal. He played ahead of a young stud like Dwight Howard [C} and a veteran presence like Carlos Boozer [PF/C]. A certain segment of Raptors fans and specific members of the team’s media team are simply displaying their lack of NBA sophistication and acumen when they parrot the theme that goes:
“Chris Bosh has maxed out as an NBA player, at the age of 25, and doesn’t deserve a maximum contract because he is a similar player to the likes of Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Dwyane Wade and Tim Duncan.”
Given what he’s actually achieved to-date, in this early stage in his pro career, in the environment he’s been in with the Raptors, Raptors fans would simply be laughed at, IMO, if/when attempting to convey THAT opinion to any of the 30 head coaches, or 30 GM’s, or 450 players working in the NBA today. And, I mean simply laughed at.
IMO, Jeff Van Gundy said it best on Sunday, when he mused along the following lines:
For the most part, the fans and broadcasts and media members who watch the games played in this League have no clue whatsoever which players can really play the game at a high level and which ones cannot. It’s the players and the coaches and the GM’s … as a collective group … who are best qualified to name the MVP of the league [and make judgments of that type], because they have specific training and a wealth of personal experience which allows them to understand what’s really going on out on the floor during a NBA game, not the fans, not the broadcasters, and not members of the media. – JVG
As I’ve said before, on more than one occasion, me and my illegitimate half-brother, “The Undertaker” [aka, JVG], have a lot in common and just happen to share many similar impressions about the game of basketball, including THAT specific perception. : )
If those words sound khandescending to you, then, I’m afraid that’s simply too bad.
Funny that you of all people post this comment from JVG. You have suggested in the past that you know better than Bryan Colangelo and most NBA GM’s. Do you think you would make a better GM than Colangelo? Do you have more NBA acumen than he does? Seriously, I’d be interested to know (which means you won’t answer).
…and why the big secret about your “past” experience that apparently makes you this basketball wunderkind that you pimp yourself as when most of what you write suggests otherwise? You’ve told some people then deleted the comments from your blog. Why hide it?
Raptoronto,
Truth be told …
YOU have no interest in MY opinion, whatsoever. LOL, : )
I’ve told certain others “what” exactly? [according to YOU]
And, then deleted “what” exactly from my blog? [according to YOU]
LOL. : )
You don’t actually visit my blog, now … do you? : )
[that simply can't be ... cause no one ever really goes there, right?]
ROTFLOLWKAS, : )
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Flux,
Hopefully you’re tuned in to all of this hilarity?
Haven’t missed a line, Sir. : )
Collecting data for the “Fluxland’s Top 10 Ridiculous Raptor Fan comments” to be assessed at a later date. Marc and CaldeROSEN are making the top of the list right now. That way we can asses their self proclaimed high basketball acumen.. which of course will be written off by them, at that time, as “being a real fan, supporting the team and being optimistic” (copyright Andiamo).
And in spirit of Andiamo : “We will be a million times better under Triano. We will make the playoffs.”
Don’t let me forget RaptorsFreak and Raptoronto, the official BC groupies and Presidantes of the “BC will lead us to the Promised Land/He is our Saviour/We are lucky to have him/He turned around the culture and gave us respect in the L/We love BC KoolAid and are not worthy of him” club.
I’d love to see what I said.
Awesome Khandor…I was wondering how long it would take for you to throw up another completely useless assesment IMO of course. The Raps chances of victory improved because Bargs was sitting giving Bosh the chance to play center, and marion the 4!!! Wow you have no real clue about anything. Also don’t get too excited because they beat the worst team in the league by one point on a lucky three pointer by a .230 shooter.
Exactly what upside does Bosh still have other than to be a real MVP’s ( LeBron, Wade, Kobe) decoy as a second option on a winning team??
Which parts of his game have improved…his shooting, passing, blocks, rebounds, turn overs, three point shots, basketball IQ, his play against stellar teams and defenders, ??? Please tell
Pizzaman,
Give me a single reason I should take the time to respond to any question YOU might ask of me?
LOL, : )
Khandor,
How about because you never really answer any questions, but rather go on some long diatribe of meaningless information, stats, and line-ups that no one really cares about to mask the fact you have no answer.
Is there a problem with just the simple questions and answers for you, or are you hell bent on boring the crap out of everyone with pages of nonsense? Blogs are a forum where individuals can post opinions, discuss the team, make comments, disagree, agree, etc…but basically share some basketball and specifically Raptor talk. We are not clones and not all agree on everything but have our opinions and most are really raptor fans in their own way. I love the team and quite frankly am not happy with them becoming the second Leafs. I want more!
Here’s a prime example of a MAJOR problem with someone like you.
Read carefully what you just wrote in the comment below, highlighted in bold:
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Khandor,
How about because you never really answer any questions, but rather go on some long diatribe of meaningless information, stats, and line-ups that no one really cares about to mask the fact you have no answer.
Is there a problem with just the simple questions and answers for you, or are you hell bent on boring the crap out of everyone with pages of nonsense? Blogs are a forum where individuals can post opinions, discuss the team, make comments, disagree, agree, etc…but basically share some basketball and specifically Raptor talk. We are not clones and not all agree on everything but have our opinions and most are really raptor fans in their own way. I love the team and quite frankly am not happy with them becoming the second Leafs. I want more! – by Pizzaman
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Now read carefully the simple question which Marc asked, in the comment below, highlighted in bold:
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Okay wise guy, since you appear to believe that the Raps are better off without Andrea Bargnani, why don’t you man up and suggest a good trade involving AB that would improve this team.
Anyone can point out what is wrong with a team, the hard part is finding a viable solution to those problems. – by Marc
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Now read VERY CAREFULLY the simple answer which I provided for Marc, in the comment below, highted in bold:
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Marc,
Are you sure that you’re really paying close attention to what I write on RR [or my own blog for that matter]?
Click here, for a basic trade which was proposed a while back, in response to someone else’s request, that the Grizzlies should be eager to make, considering that they’re getting the 2006 No. 1 [overall] Draft Pick in return, who is destined for superstardom in the NBA, as the second coming of Dirk Nowitzki. Right? : )
[PS. After July 1, 2009, if the Grizz didn't want to take on added salary they could even through in a player like Chris Mihm/C to boot.] – by khandor
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The simple fact is that … the observations which YOU make on the RR, which pertain to me, are all too often NOT accurate.
ROTFLOLWKAS, : )
Gotta say you’re definitely the best cut and paste guy I’ve ever seen. Could use you to do a few of my presentations since most of the idiots I work with are the same as you and drool on about crap forever and never really accomplish anything. Perhaps you’re a cross functional specialist since you have much to say, and pretty much always the same thing and never accomplish anything.
Now that should the rap of the day!!!!!!!
babyface,
Thanks. : )
Remember, however … you might not want to be seen as supporting my viewpoints too much – in the eyes of some around here, e.g. pizzaman, reality check, raptoronto & sam – for fear of being cast in a negative light, as a mere khan-man. : )
[eyebleaf ... Are YOU paying close attention?]
I said pizza mans comment was the rap of the day. I posted b4 you did thats why you get messed up.
Okay wise guy, since you appear to believe that the Raps are better off without Andrea Bargnani, why don’t you man up and suggest a good trade involving AB that would improve this team.
Anyone can point out what is wrong with a team, the hard part is finding a viable solution to those problems.
Marc,
Are you sure that you’re really paying close attention to what I write on RR [or my own blog for that matter]?
Click here, for a basic trade which was proposed a while back, in response to someone else’s request, that the Grizzlies should be eager to make, considering that they’re getting the 2006 No. 1 [overall] Draft Pick in return, who is destined for superstardom in the NBA, as the second coming of Dirk Nowitzki. Right? : )
[PS. After July 1, 2009, if the Grizz didn't want to take on added salary they could even through in a player like Chris Mihm/C to boot.]
sorry … please replace “through” with throw. : )
When did I say I was playing close attention to you? You need to pay more attention.
While an interesting trade, I highly doubt that the Grizz would swap a sure thing in Rudy Gay for a work-in-progress like Andrea Bargnani. Perhaps, if he continues his solid play of the last 4-5 months next season, they would consider it. But if he does continue to play well, I think the Raptors should keep him anyway.
Rudy Gay is better right now, but Bargs has more potential in the long run.
I never suggested that AB is going to become the 2nd coming of Dirk Nowitzki. There are some things that Bargs does better than Dirk (shot blocking), and some things that he does not do as well (drawing fouls, driving, handling). They have similar skills as far as shooting is concerned but I think that Bargnani has more potential as a C and Dirk has more as a PF.
Marc,
LOL.
1. I never said that YOU said you were EVER paying close attention, especially to anything which I happen to write. That’s the point, my friend.
2. Did you get an answer to the simple question you asked? [Yes or No]
3. Whether you happen to agree or disagree with that simple answer is your business, not mine … as I don’t think YOU asked to be provided with a Bargnani trade scenario that YOU would happen to LIKE, or think likely to occur.
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Btw, neither did I say that YOU said Bargnani was the 2nd coming of Dirk Nowitzki.
Bargnani and Nowitzki do NOT have similar skills, as far as shooting is concerned. Perhpas to the untrained eye they do; but, not to someone who has been trained specifically to tell the difference between a Grade I Stakes thoroughbred and a $50,000 claimer. : )
In the NBA, Bargnani’s best position is Center, as he is not a very good/effective Power Forward.
Part of what has fuelled the Mavericks resurgence in the 2nd half of this season is the fact that Rick Carlisle has frequently gone to a small line-up at key stages in their games which looks like this:
PG – Jason Kidd
OG – Jason Terry
SF – Josh Howard [or Antoine Wright or James Singleton]
PF – Brandon Bass
C – Dirk Nowitzki
As far as Dirk is concerned it’s a giant question mark which one position on the floor is actually his single best, i.e. Power Forward [where most think he belongs] or Center [where he has always been a very difficult individual match-up for an all-time great Center like Tim Duncan, as well as plenty of others].
Oh, I didn’t realize you were a trained professional. What’s your Alma Mater?
maybe i dont know how the trade machine works, but if both teams are gonna lose more games with your suggested trade than without, wouldnt that make it a BAD trade for both teams??? thus…khandie…you still havent answered his question
The projected games Won-Lost with proposed trades on the ESPN Trade Machine are just that … future projections. Take them with a grain of salt, if you wish.
Pompous ass
Completely off-topic, but Chad Ford said today that John Wall might be elligible for the draft this year (he is a fifth year HS senior). While high school pg to the pros is a huge leap it would certainly make the draft a little more interesting…
I’m pretty sure every draft eligible player has to have at least 1 year in the NCAA or an international pro league.
I think it’s that they must be out of high school for 1 year. Not sure where ‘gradutating’ high school factors in.
Here is the rule:
The player (A) is or will be at least 19 years of age during the calendar year in which the Draft is held, and (B) with respect to a player who is not an international player (defined below), at least one (1) NBA Season has elapsed since the player’s graduation from high school (or, if the player did not graduate from high school, since the graduation of the class with which the player would have graduated had he graduated from high school);
Looks like a tough sell from his point. He is turning 19 this calendar year but would have to argue (if he dropped out before the end of the year) that the year he “would have graduated had he graduated from high school” was last year…sounds like a losing argument to me (and if he dropped out and lost the argument he would have to go oversees b/c he obviously wouldn’t be elligible for the NCAA).
Still, would have been interesting…not that he would have been available at 9 anyways…
sorry … that should read as:
” .. because he isn’t a similar player to … ” : )
No worries, then … as, You have nothing to fear but fear itself. : )