12 Mar 2009

Raps Fan’s 3 Point Shot – March 12/09

  1. Is it me, or does Bosh seem more excited to give a weather report then win games? #boshsucks if you are on twitter (we have to call him out, can’t let him get off scott-free!)
  2. If Smitch was still the coach, would the Raptors be in the playoff hunt? (do we even care?)
  3. Is it time to shut Calderon down for the rest of the year and forbid him from playing with the Spanish team? (also if someone could tell me whats wrong with him, back, hammy, foot?)

50 Raps

  1. Jord says:

    1. don’t care.
    2. don’t care.
    3. don’t care.

  2. Arsenalist says:

    1. don’t care.
    2. don’t care.
    3. yes, yes and nothing.

  3. AltRaps says:

    1> Bosh is a product of his environment. Why should he care if his home fans show they don’t by booing the team when they are down 4pts or if they don’t get free pizza?

    2> No, the problem is the players, not the coach. I do think, though, the team would have been playing a tougher brand of basketball and I would actually still watch the postgame pressers. I could care less what Jay-lame has to say. If you think Jay is a good coach, you don’t know basketball.

    3> He should be shut down and immediately placed on a rehab assignment that takes him through the summer. He should also grow a set of balls. What ails him? I could Care less, Foot or hammy.

    • Raps Fan says:

      post-game has gotten way more dull, that’s for damn sure. i still remember the first couple of press-conferences mitchell game, they were pure gold. if anyone has links to them, send em our way.

    • Arsenalist says:

      1. Please, that is such bullshit man. Do you even listen to yourself? You’re bringing the home fans into this? Product of his own environment? Take it to the rim, play defense, box out, communicate on the screens, step-up to challenges and earn your fucking money. Then let’s see if the fans boo.

      • AltRaps says:

        Toronto fans are idiots. Full stop.

        • Sam says:

          We love you too Alt. Just wish we could be as sufistikated as youse is

          • _cp_ says:

            bosh either doesnt understand basketball (catch, pump fake, pump fake, d adjusts, pump fake, jumpshot/weak drive/flailing lay up attempt into a double team/turn over ie 65-75% of his offensive possessions as opposed to shooting in rhythm or driving off the pass against an adjusting d) or he doesn’t have any personal pride/heart (vince jr?)

            personally IF i consider myself an “elite” player, having games like this (and the other, how many losses are we at now?) hung on my head, it wouldn’t sit very well and i would go out every game and if nothing else at least try and look like i belong with those “elite” players and by doing so give my team a chance to win.

            and if bosh is that tempermental that fed up booing fans cause him to quit i think we should really be looking for a different “cornerstone” player to build around.

        • ebrian says:

          No question the fans are stupid with the pizza chants, but I don’t know if fans can affect how poorly Bosh has been playing lately.

          Leafs fans have been called idiots for the opposite reasons; blindly cheering for a team that hasn’t amounted much. Yet the Leafs themselves appear to be unaffected by this “environment”. They have sucked for years and continue to do so.

      • Earn Your Money.

        (I’d accept him mailing-in 1 game a month if we were in the playoff race.)

  4. khandor says:

    AltRaps,

    ————————————–
    re: 3> He should be shut down and immediately placed on a rehab assignment that takes him through the summer. He should also grow a set of balls. What ails him? I could Care less, Foot or hammy.
    ————————————–

    LMAOROTGKAS … : )

    [twice in one day, on account of you and RF]

  5. pakmacman says:

    1. We know this season is over… pretty sure Bosh knows also…

    2. Firing Smitch was the turning point this season. We were 1 game under .500. Really dumb move to do it at that point in the season, unless you’re going to bring in some fresh blood.

    3. Free Ukic

    • Raps Fan says:

      knowing the season is over, and showing excitement/intensity are two different things, no?

      • verbatim says:

        probably not. Excitement and intensity are related to winning. It has been a thoroughly deflating season. Plus, why risk injury at this point? I say shut’er down, Wade-style from last year.

        I see what you are saying, I just don’t know if it is realistic to expect that – especially when Bosh has a huge brace on his knee, and his patented blow-by move can’t even propel him past lead-footed Dalembert.

      • verbatim says:

        You know who will show excitement and intensity? Players like Roko, Mensah-Bonsu, Graham.

        You need to have a reason to bring the excitement, a sense of purpose. To those guys, they are either trying to prove themselves in this league, or are fighting for contracts. These are the types of guys that can bring it night in and night out when the team obviously won’t make the playoffs. For Bosh? He has nothing to light his fire. Other teams will want regardless of how poorly the Raps do.

        • Raps Fan says:

          you make good points, just that it has been a very long time since bosh has displayed it consistently (december). the season was not a forgone conclusion at that point for most.

  6. ChrisR says:

    1. Bosh is sounding very Vince like lately.

    2. not unless they gave him a uniform. He was the only guy with any balls on the bench.

    3. yes, yes, dreaming of pig races in the summer

  7. verbatim says:

    1)
    I am more excited about him giving the weather. At least Bosh has a decent personality. This team sucks. As I have said time and time again, shut ‘er down for real. Don’t come out and half-play. Just stop playing. FREE ROKO/BANKS/O’BRYANT/!!!

    2)
    We might be in the 8-spot. Not because I think Smitch was a good coach, but leaving him wouldn’t have rocked the boat leaving Triano to try to keep her afloat.
    And I would care, because I love playoff basketball, and you gotta support your team if they make it.

    3)
    SHUT’ER DOWN! I think Calderon has fatigue related injuries, such as sore knees or hamstrings. As much as I don’t want to give excuses, Calderon can’t hit an open jumper. If there was one thing we could count on, through all the bad decisions and failures to take it hard to the hoop, it was him hitting open shots.

  8. d279 says:

    #3…fuck you to Spain….ain’t happening,
    …..ditto Bargs/Italia

    • Marc says:

      I don’t mind Bargs playing over the summer. There’s always the risk of injury, but you could also injure yourself riding a moped, just ask Monta Ellis. I think it’ll help his game and he’s young enough and sturdy enough to take it.

  9. halas says:

    Regarding Calderon…Does anyone realize that he was in a CONTRACT YEAR last year? That maybe he just played out of his mind and isn’t that good in first place.

    I mean Erick Dampier averaged some crazy stats in his contract year and once he got paid he played like crap.

    Everytime I hear someone compare Jose to Steve Nash or say that he’s a great PG in general I just cringe. No wonder Raptor fans have a bad rap about them. Raptor Truthers.

  10. bearvon says:

    1. he’s a little sketchy…but im sure he has to do a bunch of promotional shit…ill bet he could care less about doing the weather too.

    2. i hated sam mitchell…i dont think anything would have changed…they MIGHT have won 5 more games.

    3. i need my spanish ham to be of major quality for my time off from basketball…therefore he needs to get a jump on it now.

    • tonious35 says:

      1. Things would be better if Bosh was winning, and I would not give a crap what he does on his free time. With what’s happening right now it looks ridiculous, but he does give back to our community.

      2. Sam looked rather out of it after the Vince-dunks-to-win game. +5 wins probably as what “beavron” said and terrible substitutions in a different pattern, but same losing result and fan dismay.

      3. Just shut him down, and let him think about this season and what he really has to work on or again back on whatever he lost. UKIC time! Remember how our team did when Jose just sat his ass down? We flippin’ beat the 95% healthy Spurs!!!!!

  11. jay says:

    Calderon needs to make 8 more free throws to qualify for the free-throw shooting record. Him breaking that record and watching pops grab a rebound every two minutes are the only bright spots left on this season

  12. Debate: FREE ROKO vs FREE UKIC

    Let’s settle this here.

  13. Adam says:

    1. I don’t follow Bosh’s off court antics.

    2. Yes, we would be in the conversation.

    3. If it means I don’t have to hear the phrase “not 100%” for the rest of the year then by all means. I think the whole team needs to be better conditioned next year.

    • bearvon says:

      yes…the team does need to be in much better condition next year…

      but that would require a whole new team of ATHLETES.

  14. Andiamo says:

    http://www.justin.tv/nomadxxxx/popout

    okla st vs okla…..great game.

  15. Rapspoint says:

    i know this isnt the right place to post this but i had to share it..

    one of the links on the side bar was this link:http://hoopheadsnorth.com/2009-articles/march-2009/philly-115-raps-106.html

    seriously take a look at it. I still cant tell if it was a joke or if that guy was that stupid. Im pretty sure he didnt mean it to sound the way it came out. BUT ahah saying we are on our losing streak because of sending jawai down to the D-league. HAHA had to share it. maybe i am missing something though

  16. Sam says:

    Just listened to the Triano Fan 590 interview. I predict Jose and Bosh are out for the year within the next 3 games. Roko Ukic will be freed.

    And I can’t see Triano coming back as coach, unless BC trades away half the roster. He’s a nice Canadian boy but he basically said the team sucks and didn’t try too hard to convince Jack and the other guy that hte problem wasn’t talent. I don’t think you say that if you figure you’re coaching the same guys next year. Bring on Messina.

    DRAFT RUBIO. Trade Bosh. Sign Ariza. Free Banks

  17. Andiamo says:

    1.bosh went from fiery introvert to flaming poseur.
    2.fuck smitch that cunt.he set this team back eons with bad habits ingrained,sam took team ball to an exclusive jose n bosh show.
    3.ive come to hate jose’s fucking guts.ever since bc got rid of sam.jose and bosh have sucked cock while pouting over not dominating the game/possession with constant pick n rolls.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3hC33cI1OE&feature=channel_page

    ….check the first seconds of this video.jose screams at a wide open bargs to pass the rock off to bosh then throws his hands in the air while bargs drains a wide open 3….i guess we now know why bargs gets frozen out the rest of the way…..4th qtr = boshball and bargs aint allowed to play.

  18. khandor says:

    —————————————
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3hC33cI1OE&feature=channel_page

    ….check the first seconds of this video.jose screams at a wide open bargs to pass the rock off to bosh then throws his hands in the air while bargs drains a wide open 3….i guess we now know why bargs gets frozen out the rest of the way…..4th qtr = boshball and bargs aint allowed to play. – by Andiamo
    —————————————

    There is no evidence in that clip of any such claim. Period.

    • Andiamo says:

      lol.and thats why 90% of the people here see you as a blind spamming self serving douchebag.the other 10% consist of those who are indifferent towards you and those who feel sorry for you.
      the instant the clip starts you dont hear jose holler and point to bosh the very moment he passed off the rock then throw his arms up and quickly drop them as the ball went swish?.bargs get less and less touches until its zero 4th qtr touches and full steam ahead chris botch time……wow,u really are mentally challenged khandor.congrats on learning the interweb.

  19. khandor says:

    * Calderon starts to use Bosh’s Pick.
    * Bosh Slips early to the basket.
    * Bosh’s defender stays with Calderon.
    * Calderon reads the play correctly and passes to Bargnani at the TOTK.
    * As the ball is in the air, Calderon yells to get Bargnani’s attention, expecting Dalembert [AB's original check] to close out on Bargnani, and letting AB know that CB4 should be open on the 2nd pass.
    * Dalembert, instead, rotates back to Bosh, leaving AB wide open for the uncontested 3.
    * As Calderon sees Bargnani “catch & look” inside for Bosh first, as he should, Jose then starts to raise his two hands, making the jesture for a 3-PT Shot, when he sees that AB is about to launch a 3, instead of passing inside to Bosh, because CB4 is covered on the play by Dalembert.
    * As Bargnani takes the 3, Calderon drops his hands and resumes play.

    Calderon does not yell at Bargnani because he is angry at him in this sequence.

    Eyes Wide Shut, Exhibit A

  20. Andiamo says:

    …figured youd say that.

  21. Andiamo says:

    lol

  22. Andiamo says:

    right…so bargs doesnt get looked off and when bargs was in the paint with lou fucking williams on him 4th qtr pleading for the ball only to have jose drive and get stripped while tryin to get his own shot off didnt happen…..so according to 82games.com the figures dont show bargs fga drop from 1st qtr to 4th by a ridiculous level and while it took a horrid 16 shots to get bosh 17 points the ball wouldnt have been better served to a high percentage shooting bargs……once this team stops force feeding botch or botch decides to denouce his ru-ness and make bargs a team mate and give him the fucking rock out of a double in crunchtime…we’ll start to win some game…..but i dont think thats the plan anymore this season.

  23. kaine says:

    mitchell is just a bad-mediocre coach.

    -not able to teach basket
    -not able to teach some offense. I fucking can’t believe this…I started to follow the raptors since the bargnani drafting…3 years and still this team doesn’t have a minimal playbook.

    the infamous new jersey series highlighted the real value: mitch was able to do..nothing. bosh was shutted down by perennial all-star… miky moore.

    with mitch and his ingrained bad habits the team would still sucks, also, we wouldn’t have had the development of AB and graham.

    His Coy winning was the worst thing that could happened to the franchise.

    (colangelo didn’t help with the kapono and O’neal trade either…)

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