What-choo-talkin-about?The Raptors need to take this one as they head into a tough stretch of games where they play 7 teams who are .500 or better. Without getting too far ahead of ourselves, there is a game against the Wolves. Don’t get too excited, but it could mean two wins in a row for the Raps. It should mean two wins in a row. Actually, if they don’t win against the Wolves, Bosh might start Twittering haiku’s to the masses.
A sexy G*d fearing dame.After going 10-4 in January, and leading the league in wins, the Wolves have gone 2-8 so far in February with one of those losses coming against the Raptors. In fact, the Raptors haven’t lost to the Wolves in 5 years, a span of 9 games. I don’t think any other team in the league has that distinction. They played the Lakers on Sunday and took a 5 point lead into the 4th, ultimately losing 111-108. Say what you will about them, but they have a few nice young players who play some exciting basketball, too bad Jefferson is down for the count. I’ll take it.
The Raptors on the other hand aren’t much better, going 3-7 in their last win, and 1-2 since the Marion hit the scene. Over the weekend, they split a pair of games with the Knicks, getting blown out of the water on the first one in Mecca, then winning by (not blowing them out mind you) 11 two days later.
Chrissa checks in as my favourite Timberwolves cheerleader, which isn’t saying much. Gotta say, most of these girls are pretty lame, Church going folk. Not that there is anything wrong with Church, we here at RR support religion (well I do anyways), but when this Telemarketer Market Researcher’s goal is to live a Christian life in everything she does…kills the buzz a bit. I was gonna go with Ashley K, but I fell asleep reading her profile. You can Fan Chrissa on Facebook if you so choose.
Injury Report
Raptors
Kris Humphries
Timberwolves
Corey Brewer
Al Jefferson
Match-ups
Calderon vs Telfair
The Edge: Calderon - Calderon won the match-up last time around as Telfair didn’t bother to pass the ball to anyone. I don’t expect much more out of Marbury’s cousin, was never a big fan of him. Ultimately doesn’t matter, Jefferson is injured.
Parker vs Foye
The Edge: Foye - Randy “McHale traded Roy to get” Foye dropped 33pts 8rebs on us the last time around while Parker was nowhere to be found. Since Parker had the solid game against the Knicks on Sunday, I don’t expect him to make out to this one. Ultimately doesn’t matter, Jefferson is injured.
Marion vs Miller
The Edge: Marion - 16pts 15rebs 5st Sunday against the Knicks. If he can do that for a couple more years, I’d give him a 3/$24 in the summer. Joey Graham kept Miller in check last time around, Marion should do the same. Ultimately doesn’t matter, Jefferson is injured.
Bosh vs Gomes
The Edge: Bosh - CB4 anchored the defense since it is his new focus at the moment. I have to admit I don’t disagree with him going that route. He was a beast at the Olympics and frankly, whatever keeps the guy happy keeps me happy. Gomes dropped 17 last time around, but Bosh should keep him in check. Ultimately doesn’t matter, Jefferson is injured.
Bargnani vs Love
The Edge: Love - Love dropped 15pts 11rebs last time around, and has been having a pretty solid rookie season. I just have a feeling that Bargnani will have a pretty solid offensive game, but fail to keep Love off the boards or off the score sheet, which will ultimately swing this match-up in Kevin’s advantage. Ultimately doesn’t matter, Jefferson is injured.
The Line
VegasInsider.com has the Raptors at 6.5, and Basketball-Reference.com says the Raptors have a 64% chance of winning. Ultimately doesn’t matter, Jefferson is injured.
The Prediction
Jefferson is injured, Raptors win by 12
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Free Ukic.
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I HERE ALL THIS DRAFT TALK AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT JODIE MEEKS CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY????????????HE AND CURRY ARE THE NEXT RAY ALLEN AND REGGIE MILLER AND WILL BE TWO OF THE BEST 5 PLAYERS IN THERE DRAFT CLASS AND ONE OR BOTH MAY STILL BE THERE WHEN WE DRAFT SOME FAG FROM EUROPE!!!!
HERE ARE HIS STATS LETS PICK HIM OR CURRY!!!!
Kentucky Wildcats
Wildcats
Jodie Meeks #23 G
2008-09 STATS
PPG APG 3P% RPG BPG SPG
25.4 1.6 .424 3.6 0.1 1.4
Birth Place Norcross, GA
Height 6-4
Weight 208 lbs.
Position G
Experience 3 years
Class Junior
OH AND BY THE WAY THIS SHIT ARTICLE ABOVE MY POST IS MEANINGLESS RAPS NEEDED TO HANDLE BUSINESS ALONG TIME AGO THIS GAME IS ABOUT ONE THING PING PONG BALLS AND EVEN THATS A STRETCH….
dude…settle down a bit. meeks is, indeed, an excellent player, and he may well become a difference-maker in the NBA. ditto for curry (who, IMO, has more potential – i’ve been impressed with his transition to PG…a marbury without the psychosis?).
but one of the first thing scouts/GMs look at is what position they’ll play. they’re both under-sized as 2’s, and meeks doesn’t really have the make-up of a 1…classic tweener, no? but boy, can they gun.
something to keep in mind is that there are all kinds of players who dominate in college, and don’t necessarily turn out to be anything special as pros. meeks’ game seems ideally suited to college ball…whether that translates to the NBA is the issue. i can’t disagree with your general notion, however; GMs/scouts become enamoured with ‘length’ & ‘upside potential,’ and often overlook actual current ability. it’s the adam morrisons/sean mays/shelden williams of the college world that put scares into GMs…guys who were dominant in college, but who are now essentially busts, and all were taken in the top-10. there’s a tendency for GMs to reach for potential, with the hope that the guy(s) they pick will pan out & that they (the GMs) will be lauded as prophets.
6-4 TOO SMALL FOR A 2GUARD IN THE NBA? DEBATEABLE……
THANKS FOR THE LESSON…REALLY EVERY 24+ PLUS SCORED DOES NOT TURN OUT TO BE A SUPERSTAR…LOL… I NEVER SAID THAT…I JUST SAID I THINK THESE TWO HAVE STAR OR SUPERSTAR POTENTIAL WHICH WE COULD USE AT THE WING LAST TIME I CHECKED….
MAYBE WE SHOULD TRADE KAPONO AND CALDERON FOR B DIDDY AND THERE FIRST PICK (THEY MAY DO IT JUST TO GET OUT OF THAT DEAL THEN WE COULD TAKE A SMALLER TWO (AKA CURRY AND HE GUARD ONES WITH B DIDDY GUARDING TWOS)
THEN SHIP BOSH AND BANKS TO INDIANA FOR DUNLEVY JACK AND THERE FIRST PICK
DAVIS/JACK/UKIC
JACK/CURRY/MEEKS
DUNLEVY/GRAHAM
MARION/HUMP
ANDREA/RASHO
AND STILL HAVE AROUND 10 MIL IN CAP SPACE
SOMEONE FIRE BC AND HIRE ME..
Sir/Madam,
Please refrain from the all-caps comments.
Thank you.
i didn’t say 6′4″ was too small for a 2 in the NBA, i said that in the eyes of scouts/GMs, it’s a question mark. and you’re right, in the right situation, you can mitigate a 2’s lack of size somewhat with the players around him. i’m not trying to debate his relative worth or potential, i was merely commenting on your comment, which was ‘why isn’t anyone talking about meeks/curry as bona fide potential stars.’ they very well could be…and they could be like hundreds of guys who were stars in college who didn’t do jack in the L.
caps lock, dude. caps lock.
oh yeah…re. meeks being 6′4″ – i have no way to contradict this, but it’s not uncommon in college for players to have their heights somewhat exagerated, especially for guards/swing players. not saying meeks isn’t a legit 6′4″, but i also wouldn’t be surprised if he was closer to 6′2.5″.
Say what you will about the Euros but atleast FIBA has strict height measurements (without shoes). Thats why people comment on guys like Pau, Dirk, Bargs, Big Z etc looking like giants among american players…
P.S. – Bargs is the perfect defender for a guy like Kevin Love because he plays uber-conservative and almost never leaves his feet (for better or worse)
I only have a few comments on Meeks. I have not seen many of his games but the highlights clearly show that he is nothing but a jump shooter.
Pop Quiz? Strangely reminds me of a player that plays for the Magic and has had the most aggravating bench splinters. Answer: J.J. Redick. We could also site Adam Morrison for that matter.
I am not convinced he will strive in the NBA. Bad pick up if you want my opinion for what it is worth.
nonsense. Dunleavy? hehe
…Jodie?
Yes Jodie…… a girls name (spelling is wrong I am sure) and he will be a good to great NBA pleayer for many years despite the lack of faith…For every Trajon Langdon there is a Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Micheal Redd….
actually, it’s more accurate to note that for every reggie miller, there are thousands of trajan langdons.
1000-1 are you sure about that???
great odds I lll take that bet…
And I am the idiot Cunt…..Look in the mirror cocksucker….
1000-1 lmfao
And by the way Nunya…. in the offseason…. if the Raps were to make that particular trade,,,,,Bosh would only have 1 year left on his contract therefore reducing his value drastically.
i wonder if other teams ever went, “doesn’t matter, bosh is injured…”
i’m sure a few did, i know i did, lol
It’s probably more like “doesn’t matter, its the raptors”.
Key differences from last game at Minnesota:
FOR TORONTO
* Marion [good] & Banks [bad] are in the line-up
* Parker no longer getting run at the Back-up PG position
* O’Neal & Moon are with the Miami Heat
FOR Minny
* Craig Smith is back in their line-up
Minny +6.5 is a solid call.
I dont get the hate on Banks… he was a bust – we get it. So was Hump but he bounced back to be an effective role-player instead of crying about it and this is the time in Bank’s career that he either does that or gets waived. Seems like he’s got his head out of his ass (based on interviews/play i’ve seen) and there is promise for him at the end of the rotation. Dont bandwagon hate.
uh, how does someone get ‘waived’ in the NBA? contracts are guaranteed, if they want to rid themselves of banks, they’d have to buy out the rest of his deal. and if you think he’s going to give up any $$ in that, you’re nuts…he knows he’s pretty much out of the league at this point, the rest of his deal is what he’ll need to live on the rest of his life. it ain’t a situation where he’d be sought after & be able to revive his career & then sign another big contract.
Bargnani vs Love
I have to disagree on that, simply because last time, JO was mostly in charge of Love as CB4 was out. So, comparison in defense isn’t possible.
I tend to agree that Love is the typical center that Andrea can past through easily.
Also, as usual against Timberwolves, Kapono will play a significant role.
Hey, you forgot to put “Ultimately doesn’t matter, Jefferson is injured.”, in the Bargnani vs Love section. C’mon man, where’s the consistency?
thanks ebrian, fixed :)
if love is on bargs, wouldn’t the gameplan to be to have bargs camp out on the perimeter & force love to come out to defend him there? takes love away from the boards, takes away some of their help options, etc.
saying and doing are distinct things yertu, but you are right, it should work out that way.
Solid piece man.
Only one disagreement from this corner – Love has the advantage over Andrea? Dude’s a fouling machine, and lately, Andrea’s been boxing people out into the parking lot. Andrea may not get a lot of rebounds, but I think the team as a whole will limit any offensive rebounding from the other team.
Oh, and not to mention, Andrea’s coming off a game where he scored 28. Yes it was the Knicks, but I think he’ll crack 20 tonight.
Ultimately doesn’t matter, Jefferson is injured.
Meeks is not as good as JJ Reddick was.
jj might be a player yet. he’s clearly been working out, not sure if it’s helped his game any, he couldn’t hit anything v. the heat the other day, and his mechanics seemed off. his shot seems to have changed a bit, perhaps due to the increased bulk he’s added…seemed stiff & forced.
That is why I am saying that Meeks would be an overrated pick. His game only has one facet.
Yup. Kinda like Shawn Respert too. I loved that guy, but it didn’t translate to the pro game.
no way, guys who put up big numbers in college always translate to NBA success.
seriously though, what i do like is that he plays for a big-time program, against top-notch opponents. he’s the guy other teams have to focus on defensively, and he’s still capable of putting up points. true, he is a jump-shooter, but the NBA’s a jump-shooting league. i see him as a ben gordon-type. if that’s what you’re looking for, and are picking in the appropriate place (mid-late first round sounds about right), and you don’t have any other pressing needs, then you may take a flier on a guy like meeks.
for the raps, it depends on what they do with marion, and where they end up picking. i’d rather have a 2-3 (a guy who can split between both) as opposed to a tweener guard like curry or meeks. but again, it depends on where they pick & who’s on the roster at the time.
bobby hurley? pre-accident he wasn’t enjoying much success…
If the Raps lay an egg in this game, I am DONE with the team this season.
it’s taken you THIS long to come to that?
lol, we’ve all been done, but like a crack whore, we keep coming back. with marion, i expect things will get somewhat better. should have had him from the begining of the season tho….
What? THIS game is the one that your season is hinging on? For me it was the home game against Milwaukee. That told me this team is going nowhere fast. If you get out-everythinged by a team you’re trying to catch at home, you got issues.
…out-everythinged by a team who is missing michael redd…you got issues. for me the season was lost when we traded for HO
lol
Have faith guys!
we’ll make the playoffs remember the year we had keon clark and we won like 12 straight w/out VC. It all depends how hungry they are to gain some pride and confidence back.
that was a better team vicdurr, it was the same team (minus vc) that went to game 7 against the 76ers int he 2nd round. they had loads more toughness and played with a ton more grit then this incarnation.
Man Keon must have been high as shit to go on that kind of spree
it was actually antonio davis who put the team on his back and averaged something like 27pts and 12rebs to will this team into the playoffs. grunwald didn’t give a 6/$60mill contract for nothing.
Childs, Boogie, Del Curry, JYD, Keon, MoP, Oakley were all on the 2001-02 team that whent 12-2 to end the season and sweek into the playoffs – in the last year of the first round best-of-5 series rule.
great year, i miss those teams now.
Just a nitpick, Oakley was not on the 2001-2002 team, he was playing in Chicago that year. In his place we had hakeem olajuwon.
But that team had character. Compare that team to this current one, and the difference is uncomparable.
I looked at the poll, and MAN there are some people who want us in the playoffs? Why? So we can get beat down in 4 straight, get a shit lottery pick that will go to Miami and continue on to treadmill land while Bosh and Marion ditch in the offseason? Us tanking and rebuilding with some lucky picks is the only way out in a relatively short amount of time (2-3 years…)
Whoops the Miami pick isn’t this year, but it’s not something to look forward to.
can’t make the playoffs & be in the lottery.
bosh can’t leave this offseason, he’s signed thru ‘10.
marion may not have as many options as some would think. i’ve seen some speculate that he may not get more than the MLE (which i think is a little optimistic). when the trade went down, i was hoping they’d let him walk, but looking the FA’s this off-season, if they can get him for just over the MLE on, say, a 3-yr deal for less than $8M per, it may be worthwhile. they’d still need a legit starting 2. there’s not much out there. i can’t imagine they’d be interested in bringing AP back if it means losing out on signing delfino, who i’d hope would be willing to sign a reasonable deal.
the merits of tanking are debatable, even when the draft is loaded. this is a weak draft.
Good points all around yertu. I agree that we at least have some money to spend and aren’t neccessarily going to penny pinch like many other teams.
Marion may want to leave, but as you say, there may not be that many options for him and given that we will be 10 million under the SALARY CAP (as per Colangelo), we should have lots of financial flexibility.
Teams don’t care about being over the salary cap, it’s the luxury tax that is important. So being 10 million under the salary cap don’t neccessarily mean that we only have 10 million to spend.
Nothing gets fixed with this franchise – absolutely nothing – until the assumption that Bosh is the key piece gets revisited. He is a key second star on a team, but not the lead dog. Building around him as if he were Kobe or Lebron will continue to compound the errors, regardless of who we bring in.
So there are what 3 franchise guys in the NBA? (assuming Wade is one of them) Whatever shall the other 27 teams do? Kobe barely made the playoffs on a bad team. I think that arguement is as black and white as you state. A collection of talent with chemistry and balance is how teams win.
*isn’t
The other 27 teams (I say 23 – Duncan, Pierce, Paul and Howard are top shelf, but that’s beside the point) will continue on as they always have, trying to build around the Richard Jefferson’s, Antoine Jameson’s and Baron Davis’ of the world. They’ll probably throw long-term, max money contracts at them, maybe even pay them 30 million more than the next highest bidder, just so they can say they signed their “franchise guy”. Then, three years into the deal, they will realize that they can’t take it anymore, but they’ve got four more years to go. That’s when your screwed, and you’ve got to trade your max money “star,” (who has never got you to the third round of the playoffs) for fifty cents on the dollar. Hello J.O. Hello Jalen Rose. Hello Shawn Marion. Hello CB4.
Hooray!! We’ll be just like the other 27 teams – out of the mix. We’ll even have our own version of what upper management claims is a “superstar”. Only one team wins the title, though. You don’t do it by overpaying guys who aren’t superstars (Arenas, Redd, V.C). You wait until a real franchise player arrives and then build around him. Or maybe you win a free agency bidding war for that guy. You don’t put yourself in a position where you can never make a run at those players by paying guys like Bosh and J.O. a combined 40 million per season.
Pierce doesnt belong in that category. Afterall, he couldnt win 20 games in Boston before KG and Allen got there.
gotta agree with steve, pierce is a step down from elite in my books too.
I agree that Bosh is not a franchise player. There are a handful of players that I would deem franchise worthy (Lebron, Kobe come to mind) Once Bosh understands he can be part of an equation of players (by that I mean getting less touches and a mid to high range salary), he will become more effective. I think he is starting to realize it due to the presence of Marion. We are discovering that Bosh is not a fast-break player. It will be up to him to adapt. If not, I say we trade him.
I put this forward yesterday, but I would like some other opinions.
Trade Bosh for Rip Hamilton and Jason Maxiell and a pick
AP becomes expandable and will get good value on the market. Rip becomes the legit two.
P.S. I am actually BC and I am trying to get some feedback :) haha
I would modify that trade so it includes stuckley and not rip. I think maxiell + amir + stuckey for bosh would be a sweet deal for both teams. (and whatever else matches salaries).I would play alot of calderon/stuckey.
I think the pf of the next decade is going to be of the paul millsap type; hard workers that can grab a rebound and are rounding their offensive game. Perimeter based big men will start to disappear because guards are so much more effective out there. If we can get those three and maybe a player like harden (reaching) or teague/curry
Raps:
pg:stuckey/calderon/ukic/banks
sg:teague/stuckey/parker
sf:graham/free agency signing
pf:marion/hump
c:bargs/jawaii
sorry, i completely forgot about the trade
pg:stuckey/calderon/ukic/banks
sg:teague/stuckey/parker
sf:marion/ graham/free agency signing
pf:maxiell/hump/marion (playing small with marion)
c:bargs/amir/jawaii
Let’s keep it realistic guys…there is NO WAY that Dumars trades his entire backcourt for Bosh. He traded Chauncy away precisely because he sees Stuckey as his PG of the future. Stuckey is one of the players they are building around.
Before we got Marion I wanted Rip and Tayshaun for Bosh, but even that was a bit of a pipe dream.
I think Rip and one of their bigs is realistic, but NO WAY Stuckey gets traded. That would be counterintuitive to trading Chauncy, and only BC makes moves that follow no logical plan of action. Give Dumars the credit he deserves.
Once again, I’m Carlos Delfino, I’ve got me feet planted in Russia, and I’m takin a charge!!! (And I aint got no PHD)
would Atlanta trade Al Horford & Joe Johnson for Chris Bosh & Jose Calderon?
FOR ATLANTA:
- Bibby is a free agent at the end of this season, is much older than Calderon and makes a lot more money; a healthy Calderon is an upgrade for years to come
- Chris Bosh is a significant upgrade at the PF/C position, statistically anyway; his franchise player star power could potentially sell more tickets
- a front-court of Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, and Chris Bosh is pretty sick
FOR TORONTO:
- Joe Johnson gives the Raptors an all-star SG, a significant upgrade over whoever has been playing in that slot this season
- Al Horford may not be as talented or ever put up numbers close to Bosh’s, but he’d look good in a Raptors uniform next to Bargnani and Marion, he’s tough defensively, and he plays hard all the time
- Roko Ukic, Joe Johnson, Shawn Marion, Al Horford, and Andrea Bargnani would be a nice starting lineup
i could be on crack..
no they wouldn’t.
yes, you are.
that would obviously rule…but atlanta wouldnt trade the core of their #4 seed for the second worst team in the east.
The other 27 teams (I say 23 – Duncan, Pierce, Paul and Howard are top shelf, but that’s beside the point) will continue on as they always have, trying to build around the Richard Jefferson’s, Antoine Jameson’s and Baron Davis’ of the world. They’ll probably throw long-term, max money contracts at them, maybe even pay them 30 million more than the next highest bidder, just so they can say they signed their “franchise guy”. Then, three years into the deal, they will realize that they can’t take it anymore, but they’ve got four more years to go. That’s when your screwed, and you’ve got to trade your max money “star,” (who has never got you to the third round of the playoffs) for fifty cents on the dollar. Hello J.O. Hello Jalen Rose. Hello Shawn Marion. Hello CB4.
Hooray!! We’ll be just like the other 27 teams – out of the mix. We’ll even have our own version of what upper management claims is a “superstar”. Only one team wins the title, though. You don’t do it by overpaying guys who aren’t superstars (Arenas, Redd, V.C). You wait until a real franchise player arrives and then build around him. Or maybe you win a free agency bidding war for that guy. You don’t put yourself in a position where you can never make a run at those players by paying guys like Bosh and J.O. a combined 40 million per season.
No time to argue but the fact is teams win ‘chips not players (franchise or otherwise). And a max contract only means that someone had money to spend (see Lewis, Rashard).
I actually saw the timberwolves-heat game in miami last week. Gomes has to be one of the most underrated players in the league. I would love to see him on the raps. These guys are the worst three point shooting team in the nba, so long as telfair doesn’t heat up I expect a win.
I actually saw the timberwolves-heat game in miami last week. Gomes has to be one of the most underrated players in the league. I would love to see him on the raps. These guys are the worst three point shooting team in the nba, so long as telfair doesn’t heat up I expect a win.
Completely agree on Gomes. He is what fanboys thought Roko would be.
I’d love a bruiser like Blair from Pitt. He’s a beast.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/seth_davis/02/24/hoop.thoughts/index.html?eref=T1
I would love to see the Raps sign a key free agent like Bob Charlie or Piston Honda.
That would help.
hey ive got a question maybe someone has the answer….
can you trade contracts that expire this year as soon as its the off season?
im sorry i dont know the dates for the summer…free agency and whatnot.
like can raefs expiring still be had for like 2 days after the season or is that it?
thanks yall.
You can no longer trade expiring contracts, the trade deadline is your last chance. For example, we can no longer trade Anthony Parker and when the season ends he’s a FA.
When is the first opportunity to trade Bosh?
muchos gracias.
Arsenalist, I don’t think that is correct. Trades can be made between teams that miss the playoffs or teams once they are eliminated from the playoffs. So expiring contracts can be traded before July 1.
What do you guyes think about a scenerio like this: Sign Marion. Trade Bosh and our #1 pick to a team like Sacramento for their #1 and Kevin Martin then draft a guy like Blake Griffin or Greg Monroe to start at the 4 spot? Or Washington for Butler and their pick, etc…
In theory:
Calderon
Martin
Marion
Griffin/Monroe
Bargnani
i actually really back the butler deal…doubt sac would do the deal…
remember that our chances of trading bosh to smaller markets isnt very likely because they have to worry about him leaving just as much as we would.
Yes of course some sort of sign and trade would have to be done, which is unlikely. I’m just thinking in fantasy land.
I’d actually consider trading Bosh AND the pick for only Kevin Durant.
i’d trade bosh, the pick, and all of my unborn children for kd.
You’re crazy.. that pick could be the next KD!
you Krazy, some of your unborn children can be the next Kobe!
actually my unborn children are in a sock next to the bed.
POW!!!!!!
ewwww…but seriously.
The 8th to 12th pick in this draft ain’t gonna be the next Durant.
I was at the Knicks game on Sunday. I would not expect too much from Bosh. He is primarily around to work on his D right now, I think. He practically limps off the court, and is having lateral movement problems. He is injured right now, and the even longer than normal brace should be evidence of that.
It is my theory that he is only playing because if the Raps do not turn it around right now, he will be in such a bad psychological state about this team that he will need to be traded if they tank. And, tanking probably won’t turn the team around either.
I do wish he would rest though, and come back fully healed – I don’t want him to have to get surgery. So, look for Bosh to have a decent defensive game, but not explosive on offence. He just can’t move his legs that quickly. And, in the long run, hopefully this will make him smarter – to learn how to defend positionally, and not rely on quickness to get his game on, but to gain b-ball IQ.
I would just like to take this opportunity to say…………SPRING TRAINING IS HERE.
Yes, I’m a Jays fan. Go Jays Go.
BTW, Roy Halladay is the best athlete in Toronto.
100% agreed, best pitcher in the majors, hands down.
Yes, but see the discussion below and see if it raises any doubts.
No, global star Chris Bosh is the best. I’ll take his six jumpers from the elbow, eight free throws and a lone slam dunk anyday over Halliday. Jason Kapono is the second best.
do you think he is on the juice? I hope not 0 that would make him one of the best pitchers of this era.
I hope not as well.
You never know though.
Realistically, steroid use is likely prevalent in all sports. It’s just found the most publicity through baseball.
Nobody can seriously tell me that NFL players are all that huge and can take that sort of abuse naturally.
I hadn’t even thought of it, but him taking steroids would make sense given his career.
Halladay hasn’t suffered through fatigue-related injuries (I believe his right shoulder problem was a cyst and not fatigue related) and he burns up more innings than C.C. Sabathia, so it is possible.
Maybe he is 1 of the 104.
Again, I hope not.
he isn’t big though. you know? Like usually steroid pitchers, like Clemens get bigger – bigger arms, bigger gut. Was there a season, like A-Rod, where you saw him just get jacked? I can’t think of one. This gives me some measure of hope.
It gives me hope as well,
In interviews, he seems quite level-headed and never flies off the handle. To me that seems like a consumate professional versus a roider.
so it’s come to this. talking about the Jays to take the pain of this season away…Go Jays
p.s.
WHERE THE FUCK (heck) IS THE OPENING TIP!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????
JODIE MEEKS! RAAARRRR! MEEEEKS!!! ERRRRRR!!!! MEEKS!
joe johnson has been playing like shit of late, but i would do that trade.
O well another fantasy trade argument by fake GM’s.
The real GMs are so great!! They make sweet trades and give out good contracts to players that are well worth the dough. Fake GMs would trot out Roko Ukic and Will Solomon to solidify their backup point guard positions. Then they would sign 3 point specialists that can’t hit 3 point shots to long term deals – but only if they refuse to play defense as well!!! Maybe they can make these great moves because they trade for underpaid overachievers that resemble a corpse but are actually named Jermaine O’Neal!!! You’ve got to let go the overpaid bums like Delfino that are killing your cap and bring in the former all-stars in the last years of their deals!!! That’s being a real GM!!!
That is fantastic. Kudos.
I think the key for the raps tonight is to get behind while they are at home early…47-31-like…have Brian Cardinal going off on Olympian Chris Bosh for points in the paint. This way, the fan base doesn’t start putting too much stock in Sunday’s win and start talking playoffs again.
hey, im just wondering, where can i go to find players current contracts?
hoopshype
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
For all you wanna be GM’s
dude…you’ve gotta save the trade & then copy the link. good effort, though.
MOP girl for Flux
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9K3vjL4YL4
great game.great win.we better start losing or we wont see flux and khandor as much.those tools only emo chat spam when we lose with their “i told you so crap.”…rodney carney ftw.
LOL… Kevin Love has the edge over Bargs???
Kevin Love is no Al Jefferson, period.
Bargs scored 26 and played very well on offense. He not only hit 3’s but also drove to the basket and finished with dunks.
Trade Caldero! Cannot drive to the lane, would prefer to dish from the 3 point area which will NOT WORK against the better teams. Just a good shooter.
Bosh better play like this consistently against an opposing team’s power forwards. (Lucky him A. Jefferson is injured and has Bryan Cardinal on him). He has yet to prove himself, so far Bargs has been the Raps go to guy this year 2009.
Kudos to Shawn Marion! He may not have the big stats that he used to have in Phoenix, but he knows his role, very anti-jamario moong.
know his role? What was Jamario’s role on the Raps? He was a starting SF. Now, that is a problem of talent on the rest of the team, not Jamario. And, he is fitting quite well on Miami (+12, 5 of 7 shooting, 6 boards tonight) – why? Because he is not expected to be an integral part of the offence – he is in the role he should be in.
And for the money he makes, he is a great value player.
WOW, a Jamario Moong fan!!!
i guess you were not watching the game. like i said, marion was not about stats. he will not give you lebron stats. but he helps our team in the intangibles.
he knows his role because, he is doing what he is supposed to do. help us in rebounding, defense, and offense. he was not brought here to be our main offensive guy. we have barg, bosh as our main offensive weapons. in marion’s games with us, he grabs rebounds on both ends of the floor, he scores inside, he dishes to open teammates, and does not shoot EXCESSIVE jumpers. even jack armstrong applauded marion in tonigh’s game for dishing the ball to an open anthony parker for the 3, even if he was open because AP is a better shooter. Moong will take that shot.
as for the money value, that’s what jamario moong deserves. what a waste! good riddance! we don’t need garbage, who is a lazy defender, easily fooled by a pump fake, takes very unnecessary jump shots mostly 3’s as if he is the team’s best shooter rather than take it to the rim, and grins disgustingly when our team is losing because of him. pwe!
BC will probably try to sign him in the off season. Ha!
i do not dispute that Marion is an upgrade over Moon. To say that would be ridiculous. Moon IS a great player FOR HIS SALARY. To build as good team, you need depth – and Moon is great BENCH player, who making only 700 G’s means you can spend money elsewhere to get other good players.
We used Moon as a starter, and ridiculed him for it.
Moon was a decent bench player, not great. You’re right that he should not have been a starter and at best the 7th or 8th man off the bench but to say that the combination of his salary and skill make him a “great” roster spot on this team is wrong. If we were a deep team with a solid SF, I could tolerate Moon backing him up but the way things were with the Raptors meant he would play 25+ minutes a game which is 15 too many.
And to say that he should not be ridiculed is wrong too, he was a dumb player and dumb players need to be ridiculed. That stunt he pulled of in Atlanta was the last straw for me. Him following it up with a grin and not acknowledging that he made a mistake in the post-game interview was priceless too.
I’m going to have 10 awful games to offset my 2 good ones.
sometimes, it’s enough to question one’s faith in darwinism…
Do you play on the LPGA?
Hey idiot cocksucker…. the tradedead line past I was talking about in the offseason…. and if you think Dunlevy,(he will be healty again, injuries do heal) Jack and a high first round pick for Bosh and us ridding ourselves of Kapono’s contract is that bad of trade your crazy (maybe not the best trade but average at worst)
Go Fuck yourself and think before you type…. I am for uptempo ball and I am hoping Chris Bosh can be traded for some pieces that can help us play that way….and I was merly trying to suggest a trade that would make sense for both teams, because Jack is solid at the 1 and 2 has a big upside a top 6 -13 pick and a good player in Mike D (when healty offcourse)Bosh is injury prone as well!!! Sounds good to me…
I know he is out for the year ASSHOLE!!!!