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20 Feb 2009

Roll Call – Feb 20 vs Knicks

The “yup, no reason to be negative at all, eh buddy?” edition

Banks – missed a chippy, tossed up an airball, even committed 3 fouls in less than 10 minutes of playing time. I’ve seen more upside in the hairstyles of Kid N Play.

Bargnani – he looked as graceful as an elephant doing ballet. It’s like the stylings of Jason Kapono has started to wear off on the young guy. His line was actually pretty healthy, but ugly ugly play.

Bosh – let’s see…an inbounds pass that actually went out of bounds, had his shot blocked by Nate Robinson, looked as out of it as Paris Hilton after her birthday party, and probably ordered popcorn and got peanuts. Yeah, he has been out 16 days, but he isn’t coming off reconstructive surgery. Even if hobbled, get at your guys, get them motivated. You have the “c”….use it.

Calderon – he of the often lauded “run at your guy and clap your hands and yell yooooo” defensive school. Just missed a double double which he probably would have reached had he spent a little less time directing his guys to spots on the floor without really concentrating on getting them the actual ball or use them as a pick on a screen and roll.

Graham – led the team in points. Really.  Also led the team in thoughts of “why the hell couldn’t I have been traded off this team? Have I really pissed God off that much??”

Humphries – anybody else think he paid some kid a c-note to keep pounding him in the leg until something popped, just so he didn’t have to be seen with this motley crew?

Jawai – 4 minutes, 2 fouls, and the undying admiration of a continent that thankfully was probably asleep while this travesty was happening. The Toronto Raptors…we are the United Nations of suck.

Kapono – did I really see him blow on his fingers after he hit a 3 while down 30? I’m not sure, but if I did, Alex English should walk up to him in the locker room tonight and do this:

Actually…just do it anyway.

Marion – who is HO? Admittedly a hater of HO, but, again, not a big believer in Marion, I’m warming up to the guy. Crashed the boards, gave some good looks, hit some shots, got digits from the girl in the 14th row and is, as you read this, walking in Times Square with every intention of going to Hello Deli. 14pts, 12 rebounds, and probably 18 “WTF did I get into here”s.

O’BryantKobe hit the floor tonight for 5 minutes and quickly showed what he can bring to the Raptors…boards, blocks and assists. The joke would be that he actually blocked and then rebounded his own pass, but I digress. Did he show flashes that he is going to be a serviceable piece for this team? Only in that he took time away from Jake.

Parker – the next time you are scheduled to show up somewhere and you don’t, you will have AP’d.

Ukic – an airball three, carrying the ball, and the continuing shame of holding his hands on his hips like an anemic runway model. I say you take him to the Central Park zoo, dump him in the flamingo pit and call it a day.

Voskuhl – how sucky must it be to be on a roster that has few bigs, be in a 30pt blowout, and still not see any floor time? If he was a youngster playing t-ball on a team where everybody gets to bat, as he was stepping to the plate it would probably pour rain, the game would get called, and his parents would be happy that they were saved the shame of wee Jakey swinging and missing.

Driving The Bus:   Shawn Marion

Under The Bus:    Anthony Parker

Game Theme:    

30 Raps

  1. RapthoseLeafs says:

    This game ain’t worth discussing.
    And to think I cut short my night-out, for THIS.

    Oh well … maybe time to pay attention to the draft.

  2. FAQ says:

    Ladies and gentlemen .. I present to you the 2009 Toronto Ratpors … the pride of all of Canada …!!!!!

  3. PAPER BAG ON MY HEAD AS I WATCH says:

    SO BAD… ATLEAST WE HAVE OUR PICK THIS YEAR… ANY PREDICTIONS…

  4. dude5682 says:

    i freakin’ turned off my pc after the 1st qtr. Trade Bosh!!!!

  5. PAPER BAG ON MY HEAD AS I WATCH says:

    I AM GUESSING WE TAKE MEEKS BUT I WANT CURRY, I THINK HE WILL BE A REGGIE MILLER IN A SMALLER BODY.

  6. Bill says:

    At least if we get a lottery pick and BC plans on drafting a Euro, not even Maurizio can screw it up with Rubio on the boards…

  7. Dave says:

    The Knicks were very entertaining to watch.

  8. RobertArchibald says:

    More games on TSN2 please.

  9. Bill says:

    ebrian,

    Is that for certain? ESPN and similar sites still have him listed as part of the draft.

    • ebrian says:

      I think due to the nature of his contract in Europe his buyout is something crazy like $6M. So if he were to declare for 2009 draft, I would think his draft stock would fall because teams would be looking to save on his annual pay to offset that insane buyout price. It’s possible he could declare and then just not come to the NBA until 2010, but I think that’d be kinda pointless for teams to draft him knowing he’s not coming for another year.

  10. PAPER BAG ON MY HEAD AS I WATCH says:

    SO WHAT WOULD EVERYONE DO IF THERE WERE BC IN THE OFFSEASON:
    HERE IS A CRAZY IDEA

    I WOULD BLOW IT UP

    TRADE BOSH,KAPONO BANKS TO INDIANA FOR TJ FORD DUNLEVY, JACK AND 1ST ROUND PICK

    TRADE CALDERON AND ANDREA TO GOLDEN STATE FOR ELLIS, RANDOLPH
    RESIGN MARION FOR ABOUT 6-8 MIL, GRAHAM 2-4 AND LAND DAVID LEE 6-10 MIL
    SIGN RASHO
    DRAFT MEEKS AND CURRY

    PLAY SMALL BALL… FAST UPTEMPO FUN SHIT… YOU KNOW
    FORD/JACK/UKIC
    ELLIS/CURRY/MEEKS
    DUNLEVY/GRAHAM
    MARION/RANDOLPH
    LEE/HUMP/RASHO

    STILL HAVE 10 MILLION TO SPEND AS TEAMS WANT TO UNLOAD SALARY

    THEN YOU RUN RUN AND RUN

    WE WOULD NOT A WIN MUCH BUT IT WOULD BE FUN TO WATCH WHICH IS MORE THEN I CAN SAY ABOUT THE CURRENT SQUAD

    THOUGHTS????
    AND OTHER SILLY IDEAS WOULD BE APRECIATED

  11. FAQ says:

    Wiz beat Nets by 9 as Mike James throws up 19 points in 25 minutes..!!!

    If the Rats lose all 25 games, they will be 21-51 and batting 0.256 to hopefully beat out the Wiz, Grizz, Clipps, OKC, Sac, Minny and GSW for First Place in the draft.

    Now that’s thinking ahead …!!!!!

  12. lakeserver says:

    how about firing the canadian coach! with sam mitchell…he could have made a better run than this guy!!!! i don’t give a shit if he’s not giving bargnani and joey graham playing time…at least they’re winning against easy opponents.bosh used to be great with mitchell’s game play….im just saying….or better yet, coangelo could have fire sam mitchell during the off season ever since they have reggressed from the previous season in which they won their first atlantic division. Van Gundy or Flip Sauders would have been a great candidate from coaching this running team.

    Look at knicks today, they have mike d’antoni to coach the team and their offensive play has greatly improved…the defense is still pretty weak but they have manage to run and win most games. In my opinion, he is one of the reason of great developments of david lee, nate robinson and wilson chandler.

  13. Anon says:

    WOO-HOO!! Nathan Jawai, Patrick O’Bryant, Jake Vokshul!!! BC is a genius! Raptors gonna make a run in the playoffs! Watch out you Celtics & Cavaliers ’cause our superstar MVP Chris Bosh (who’s NEVER going to leave Toronto) is planning on taking you down! Jose Calderon! WOOOOO! You gotta love that assist to turnover ratio! He’s definitely an All-Star. If only his hammy was 100% he would’ve been a shoe in for the midseason classic! Anthony Parker! YIPIII! You gotta love the hustle and determination that the guy brings. Forget Vince Cater! BOOOOO! We’d take our good ol’ AP over him anyday. YEAHHH!

    • lakeserver says:

      are u for real…what u just said is the complete opposite of what the team is now. but i applaud u for being such an obedient supporter of the raps even they are right on the toilet

  14. Andiamo says:

    the Washington generals are more spry.we need to hire flavor flav as team hype man to get these losers a pulse.these nba impostors looked as lethargic as a drunken David Hasellhoff…can somebody please slap the shit out of these goofs?….embarrassing.

  15. Anthony Parker says:

    I’m terrible.

  16. giordino says:

    Sorry Altraps, but we were wide awake in Oz. The game started around midday, and as such, I am now temorarily blind

    • AltRaps says:

      lol…oh, I know. My brother is in Cairns and loves to ride me after a Raptor dismantling. He also likes midday naps, so……here’s hoping.

  17. Albert says:

    I think we should just close the book on the Raptors..

    Andrea Bargniani is not consistent and never will be. Why build a team around a good back up? Bosh’s new name is Posh. He is soft as a gay man on 10 hits of ecstasy. Trade Bosh to a team who wants to take there team to the finals but not win. We need to start again, meaning we need to acknowledge the man who put this team on the map; Vince Carter… Trade Bosh get Vince Carter back and have the Toronto fans apologize. Trade Jose Calderon and Parker for Nash. Trade Andrea Bargniani for a big man .. And get the future draft pick ..

    Vince Carter for Bosh
    Steve Nash for Calderon and Parker / with a deal for Grant hill
    Shawn Marion
    Andris Biedrins for Andria and Kapono
    Grant hill

    With a wise choice of draft picks!!!!!

    • Mash says:

      If the Raptors EVER trade for or sign Vincent Lamar Carter, I will relinquish my support for them.

      I can support them through shitty ass times like these…

      …but acquiring Vince (Quit)ter, I will not tolerate.

      And for the record, I like Chris Bosh, and I don’t want to say that he’s approaching VC-level apathy.

      But I’m curious as to what happened to the Chris Bosh who cried on the court when the Raptors were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs? That Chris Bosh is not the Chris Bosh we have right now.

  18. manyak says:

    “the next time you are scheduled to show up somewhere and you don’t, you will have AP’d”
    jokes!

  19. d279 says:

    Missing 16 days is no excuse for that performance…I guess the New York audition didn’t go so well !!!
    In all fairness,at this point of the season with no apparant plan on how to place the deck chairs,sit Bosh,jo8,and give the rooks some playing time.
    Hang on,did I miss something? did we say that we were going to tank the season?,because that performance sure looked like it…at least it would be a plan.
    I’m not the biggest Mattrix fan,I know he is making a shitload of money,but I actually felt for the guy last night.
    VL put up some # but he looked way out of sinc.(and yes!he has remorphed into vl)
    Kapono….again !!! stick needles in my eyes defence.
    Joey…I’m now MJ,give me the ball and fuck off !!!
    Parker…what a pussy !!!
    JT….if you are going to bitch to the refs,learn how,throw a f…chair at the ref,or your starters,dont bitch whine like Parker.
    Jose…blah,blah,blah…same old shit
    Bosh…repeat…
    Blow this mess up ?

    • JP says:

      Amen. I Never liked Parker. Very Very mentally weak. Even his interviews he’s so polite and gives off a pussy vibe.Has this guy ever got a technical foul? gave a hard foul to another player? He’s not a winner and never will be.

      I respect tough minded players with heart such as Wendal Clark, Gilmore, Tie Domi, Gary Roberts, Oakley, Jerome Williams, guys who do what they need to do to win.

  20. d279 says:

    Its all on you big guy.
    Go buy yourself a new suit for ping pong ball day !!!
    People will say,that its on the players…but I say its gotta to be the right players, the right chemistry,and this team does not have it.
    Someone has has to grab Bosh by the collar and tell him to wake the fuck up…remeber when Oak grabbed VC ?
    This team is built around Bosh,and he ain’t going anywhere…leave 30 million on the table….he bitched about having to pay a fine for slaming the ball down and receiving a tech,he aint going anywhere soon….but I have to say that if he did,I dont know if I would be upset at this point….
    If it came down to it,you can replace a president ,I’m sure you can replace a soft, fleet footed 4.
    BC’S job,and only job,should be to find out if Bosh is checking out,and to find out before the draft.
    Jack is even starting to piss me off with towing the company line.

    • FLUXLAND says:

      He is not leaving anything on the table.. not a penny. This has been discussed already.

  21. JP says:

    I think BC is the dumbest executive out there today. Why is he so fascinated with European /American jump shooting players with no other skill set to speak of? it’s mind boggling. This guy shares DNA with a basketball legend in Jerry C and still cant figure out the true formula for competing in this L. He had no success as a player in College and has not looked back. This guy is a salesman at heart and should have a job as a motivational speaker or writing for a magazine.

    #1. Drafts a power forward who plays no defense, doesn’t have a post game, is mentally weak and and is perimiter oriented for a 7 footer. This was pointed out on draft night right after he was selected. Fact.

    #2. Instead of Rebuilding, let me be an idiot and sign multiple 30 yr old players from oversees who are on there last legs. Lets use that 16 million in capspace on them and not say, buying draft picks.

    #3 Parker, Moon, Garbajosa, Will Solomon, Roko Ukic, Nathan Jawai, Carlos Delfino, Kris humphries etc were not wanted by any team in the NBA, period. This is why they couldn’t find a home until Bryan came in and started a “character guy” movement. Again, would a Pat Riley, Joe Dumars, RC Buford build a core with that kind of dog shit?

    #4. Sign and/or keep Sam Mitchell to an extension when Stan Van Gundy, JVG, Rick Adelman, Mike Dantoni were looking for work. Brilliant.

    #5. Not solving this TSN2 issue. He’s the President, you think he doesn’t have a say in this? Keep dreaming. Why not sue? You let TSN air 25 games on a network no one in the city has and let them get away with it? You do not let this type of thing from happening, ever. No NBA GM in History would tolerate this.

    #5. Atlanta screwed the Raptors twice last season and Bryan ignores it. Says nothing to the media or to the League. Doesn’t want any bad publicity or to dent is image. The Raptors are soft today because there GM is soft. Learn a few tips from Mark Cuban on how to protect your players.

    #6. This team would be more talented today if Babcock was left to continue to stock pile talent. We would be Portland or Oklahoma City of the East with a real future. Wayne Embry was a gem as well.

  22. JP says:

    Let Bosh go to a good team, they still will not win anything because Bosh is not a winner,period. Lets see him perform in a game 7 in the conference finals with the pressure on. He only excels against Memphis and Sacremento, beating up on bad teams.

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