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		<title>By: phdsteve</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/12/16/rethinking-colangelos-genius/#comment-12401</link>
		<dc:creator>phdsteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey Josh, fyi- they did start last year 1-4.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=tor&amp;year=2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Josh, fyi- they did start last year 1-4.</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=tor&amp;year=2008" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=tor&amp;year=2008</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reading is Great! Today&#8217;s NBA News, Rumors, and Startling Developments - EmptyTheBench.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reading is Great! Today&#8217;s NBA News, Rumors, and Startling Developments - EmptyTheBench.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fan as president. - A Stern Warning - First-round pick Nathan Jawai is set to join the Raptors. - Raptors Republic - Speaking of the Raps, is Bryan Colangelo still considered a genius? - SportsByBrooks - Kevin [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fan as president. &#8211; A Stern Warning &#8211; First-round pick Nathan Jawai is set to join the Raptors. &#8211; Raptors Republic &#8211; Speaking of the Raps, is Bryan Colangelo still considered a genius? &#8211; SportsByBrooks &#8211; Kevin [...]</p>
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		<title>By: phdsteve</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/12/16/rethinking-colangelos-genius/#comment-12167</link>
		<dc:creator>phdsteve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>higher and Deeper- or as my dad always said..Poppa Has Dough!

I dont want to disappoint but as much as I like play analysis (and I talk about it a lot) its hard not to get excited about rumor mongering.  After all, isn&#039;t that what the internet is all about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>higher and Deeper- or as my dad always said..Poppa Has Dough!</p>
<p>I dont want to disappoint but as much as I like play analysis (and I talk about it a lot) its hard not to get excited about rumor mongering.  After all, isn&#8217;t that what the internet is all about?</p>
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		<title>By: TauEpsilonNu</title>
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		<dc:creator>TauEpsilonNu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pile it Higher and Deeper eh Steve? Looking foreward to more play analysis and less rumor mongering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pile it Higher and Deeper eh Steve? Looking foreward to more play analysis and less rumor mongering.</p>
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		<title>By: FAQ</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would Toronto Ratpor fans say and do if BC decided the team should tank for several seasons to pick up good draft picks, since top veteran US players will not willingly play here.  Toronto Maple Laff fans seem to masochistically support their hockey team .. but what about the Ratpors..??!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would Toronto Ratpor fans say and do if BC decided the team should tank for several seasons to pick up good draft picks, since top veteran US players will not willingly play here.  Toronto Maple Laff fans seem to masochistically support their hockey team .. but what about the Ratpors..??!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bring Back Delfino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bring Back Delfino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve:

Great article here.  Welcome to RR.  I have to agree with Khandor here.  Maggette is NOT the answer to the Raptors problems this year.  Our poor wing play was exposed during our playoff series with New Jersey.  Had we had Garbo AND Parker (who was defending well back then) to keep Jefferson and Carter in check, we probably would have won.  Furthermore, that series exposed Bosh as the one dimensional offensive player that he was and still is.  He was guarded by athletic big men who crowded him, bumped him, and got help if he got by them.  I think this is the strategy that the entire league has used on Bosh since then.  Boston and Detroit consistently shut him down.  In part, this is due to the good defence by KG and Sheed, but the other part is due to the team defence that surround Bosh and prevents him from getting comfortable.  New Jersey did a great job of pressuring/doubling CB4 and he was exposed as a terrible passer/decision maker in these situations.  IMO, he has done little to improve in these important areas.  The reason that LBJ, Kobe, and DWade are so dangerous is that they are able to recognize the double teams and make the correct decision which in turn makes their teammates better.  If teams are able to defend Bosh with only one defender, the Raptors cannot utilize their complimentary players at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>Great article here.  Welcome to RR.  I have to agree with Khandor here.  Maggette is NOT the answer to the Raptors problems this year.  Our poor wing play was exposed during our playoff series with New Jersey.  Had we had Garbo AND Parker (who was defending well back then) to keep Jefferson and Carter in check, we probably would have won.  Furthermore, that series exposed Bosh as the one dimensional offensive player that he was and still is.  He was guarded by athletic big men who crowded him, bumped him, and got help if he got by them.  I think this is the strategy that the entire league has used on Bosh since then.  Boston and Detroit consistently shut him down.  In part, this is due to the good defence by KG and Sheed, but the other part is due to the team defence that surround Bosh and prevents him from getting comfortable.  New Jersey did a great job of pressuring/doubling CB4 and he was exposed as a terrible passer/decision maker in these situations.  IMO, he has done little to improve in these important areas.  The reason that LBJ, Kobe, and DWade are so dangerous is that they are able to recognize the double teams and make the correct decision which in turn makes their teammates better.  If teams are able to defend Bosh with only one defender, the Raptors cannot utilize their complimentary players at all.</p>
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		<title>By: khandor</title>
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		<dc:creator>khandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KD,

1. The Mavs&#039; decision to let Nash go, when they did ... was NOT a mistake.

Dallas improved dramatically without Nash at the helm, and Phoenix improved dramatically under the guidance of D&#039;Antoni, with Nash at the Point, in a 4 out/1 in offensive alignment, playing at 100 MPH.

It was a change in direction that benefitted both teams.

2. Dallas made a huge mistake trading Harris for J-Kidd.

Harris was NOT the problem with the Mavs&#039; team that won 67 regular season games and then lost in the 1st Round of the Playoffs to the Warriors. Nor was he THE problem when their team struggled mightily last season prior to making the deal for Kidd.

What the Mavs needed to do was improve at the Center position, not the PG spot.

Potentially &quot;correcting their mistake from Nash&quot; had nothing to do with their plight.

3. That was not the reason Ford + Nesterovic + Baston + the No. 17 [overall] 2008 Draft Pick were traded for O&#039;Neal + the No. 41 [overall] 2008 Draft Pick ... and Delfino, Garbajosa &amp; Brezec were let go.

Colangelo &amp; his basketball brain-trust:

i. Did not know how to deal effectively with a disgruntled player like TJ Ford. That&#039;s a deficiency on their part.

ii. Tried to address the Rebounding and Interior Offensive/Defensive needs of last year&#039;s team through the acquisition of O&#039;Neal. That&#039;s was a mis-calculation on their part.

iii. Discovered that Ford was perceived to be a &quot;&#039;Damaged Goods&#039; player with a possible upside&quot; that could only be moved for fair value in return, if the Raptors would take back a &quot;&#039;Damaged Goods&#039; player with a possible upside&quot; themselves.

iv. Needed to stay below the Luxury Tax Threshold given the way MLSE chooses to run its basketball franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KD,</p>
<p>1. The Mavs&#8217; decision to let Nash go, when they did &#8230; was NOT a mistake.</p>
<p>Dallas improved dramatically without Nash at the helm, and Phoenix improved dramatically under the guidance of D&#8217;Antoni, with Nash at the Point, in a 4 out/1 in offensive alignment, playing at 100 MPH.</p>
<p>It was a change in direction that benefitted both teams.</p>
<p>2. Dallas made a huge mistake trading Harris for J-Kidd.</p>
<p>Harris was NOT the problem with the Mavs&#8217; team that won 67 regular season games and then lost in the 1st Round of the Playoffs to the Warriors. Nor was he THE problem when their team struggled mightily last season prior to making the deal for Kidd.</p>
<p>What the Mavs needed to do was improve at the Center position, not the PG spot.</p>
<p>Potentially &#8220;correcting their mistake from Nash&#8221; had nothing to do with their plight.</p>
<p>3. That was not the reason Ford + Nesterovic + Baston + the No. 17 [overall] 2008 Draft Pick were traded for O&#8217;Neal + the No. 41 [overall] 2008 Draft Pick &#8230; and Delfino, Garbajosa &amp; Brezec were let go.</p>
<p>Colangelo &amp; his basketball brain-trust:</p>
<p>i. Did not know how to deal effectively with a disgruntled player like TJ Ford. That&#8217;s a deficiency on their part.</p>
<p>ii. Tried to address the Rebounding and Interior Offensive/Defensive needs of last year&#8217;s team through the acquisition of O&#8217;Neal. That&#8217;s was a mis-calculation on their part.</p>
<p>iii. Discovered that Ford was perceived to be a &#8220;&#8216;Damaged Goods&#8217; player with a possible upside&#8221; that could only be moved for fair value in return, if the Raptors would take back a &#8220;&#8216;Damaged Goods&#8217; player with a possible upside&#8221; themselves.</p>
<p>iv. Needed to stay below the Luxury Tax Threshold given the way MLSE chooses to run its basketball franchise.</p>
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		<title>By: KD</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/12/16/rethinking-colangelos-genius/#comment-12122</link>
		<dc:creator>KD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see the relevance of mentioning the Kidd/Harris trade. Dallas let Nash go because they saw potential in Harris which was a mistake since Nash went on to win to MVPs. Then they tried to correct their mistake by trading Harris&#039; potential for a hall of famer as the last piece to win NOW while they thought the window was still open to win a championship. That turned out to be another mistake. But there&#039;s no way they would have traded Harris for Ford or Calderon. I guarantee no GM has ever said &quot;I think we&#039;re just a Ford or a Calderon away from a championship&quot;.

When BC made the Oneal deal, it was similar to the Iverson trade in that there are two potentially favourable scenarios. If it works out, awesome - we have a good team. If it doesn&#039;t, you have a massive contract coming off the books at a good time. Unfortunately, the second scenario looks like more and more likely. Outside of trading Bosh, I don&#039;t know what we can do but wait. This team was always based on a bunch of &quot;ifs&quot; and none of them are panning out.

I like what I hear from Triano, but right now this team is embarrassing to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see the relevance of mentioning the Kidd/Harris trade. Dallas let Nash go because they saw potential in Harris which was a mistake since Nash went on to win to MVPs. Then they tried to correct their mistake by trading Harris&#8217; potential for a hall of famer as the last piece to win NOW while they thought the window was still open to win a championship. That turned out to be another mistake. But there&#8217;s no way they would have traded Harris for Ford or Calderon. I guarantee no GM has ever said &#8220;I think we&#8217;re just a Ford or a Calderon away from a championship&#8221;.</p>
<p>When BC made the Oneal deal, it was similar to the Iverson trade in that there are two potentially favourable scenarios. If it works out, awesome &#8211; we have a good team. If it doesn&#8217;t, you have a massive contract coming off the books at a good time. Unfortunately, the second scenario looks like more and more likely. Outside of trading Bosh, I don&#8217;t know what we can do but wait. This team was always based on a bunch of &#8220;ifs&#8221; and none of them are panning out.</p>
<p>I like what I hear from Triano, but right now this team is embarrassing to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: khandor</title>
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		<dc:creator>khandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acquiring players like Maggette &amp; Belinelli are NOT the answer to what ails this Raptors&#039; team.</description>
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		<title>By: yertu damkule</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/12/16/rethinking-colangelos-genius/#comment-12119</link>
		<dc:creator>yertu damkule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree, maggette is overrated...but i like the geniuses who don&#039;t want him &#039;cause he&#039;s never been part of a &#039;winning&#039; team.  if that&#039;s the criteria, then how can we expect any GM to want any raptor?  outside of international competition, there ain&#039;t a (moveable) guy on the roster who&#039;s done shit.

as for the trade...as proposed, it wouldn&#039;t work for $ reasons.  include joey in lieu of hump, and it would.

i don&#039;t think it makes the raps any better.  creates more competition for shots, and maggette is a scorer, but little else.  belineli has skill, but whether that ever translates into anything is yet to be determined...he could just be a smaller bargs.  plus, we&#039;d be saddled with maggette&#039;s contract, which doesn&#039;t seem overly bad now, but it will in a couple years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree, maggette is overrated&#8230;but i like the geniuses who don&#8217;t want him &#8217;cause he&#8217;s never been part of a &#8216;winning&#8217; team.  if that&#8217;s the criteria, then how can we expect any GM to want any raptor?  outside of international competition, there ain&#8217;t a (moveable) guy on the roster who&#8217;s done shit.</p>
<p>as for the trade&#8230;as proposed, it wouldn&#8217;t work for $ reasons.  include joey in lieu of hump, and it would.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t think it makes the raps any better.  creates more competition for shots, and maggette is a scorer, but little else.  belineli has skill, but whether that ever translates into anything is yet to be determined&#8230;he could just be a smaller bargs.  plus, we&#8217;d be saddled with maggette&#8217;s contract, which doesn&#8217;t seem overly bad now, but it will in a couple years.</p>
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		<title>By: Raps Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raps Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t want maggette, the guy is an injury machine who just inked a long term deal. the only good thing about this team is the salary cap situation at the end of next season. if that is compromised too with no results, i&#039;m becoming a grizzlies fan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t want maggette, the guy is an injury machine who just inked a long term deal. the only good thing about this team is the salary cap situation at the end of next season. if that is compromised too with no results, i&#8217;m becoming a grizzlies fan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Babcock didn&#039;t even hire O&#039;Neill....that was Grunwald.</description>
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		<title>By: Sorael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sorael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corey Maggette is one of the most overrated players in the league.  Trading for him would be a very bad idea.</description>
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		<title>By: ALbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And golden state warriors are not doing so good  (7-18) ... You know they want something new as well as we do.. I would wait to make this trade when Correy feels better with his hamstring injury.. (that just means pulled muscle) You know that feeling you get after a hard work out.. 

Well I think this is our answer.. If I was BC this is what I would do..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And golden state warriors are not doing so good  (7-18) &#8230; You know they want something new as well as we do.. I would wait to make this trade when Correy feels better with his hamstring injury.. (that just means pulled muscle) You know that feeling you get after a hard work out.. </p>
<p>Well I think this is our answer.. If I was BC this is what I would do..</p>
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		<title>By: ALbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>ALbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 13:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright well is If I was the GM this is what I would do!!!!!!..I will like your opinion Go check salaries and let me know.....


I would trade     Andrea Bargnani (Broken Italian record)
                  Anthony Parker  (Inconsistent)
                  Kris Humphries  (a loaf of bread)
                  


For               Correy Maggette (Consistent)
                  Marco Beilinelli(new Italian hit) 

New Line up 

       Chris Bosh
       Jermaine Oneal 
       Jose Calderon
       Correy Maggette
       Jason Kapono
       Jamario moon 
       Marco Beilinelli 
       Joey Graham
       Roko Leni Ukic
       Willie Solomon
       Hassan Adams
       Nathan Jawai
       Jake Voskuhl
       

And if Bosh wants to leave we want Kevin Durant next year... so what do you guys think???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright well is If I was the GM this is what I would do!!!!!!..I will like your opinion Go check salaries and let me know&#8230;..</p>
<p>I would trade     Andrea Bargnani (Broken Italian record)<br />
                  Anthony Parker  (Inconsistent)<br />
                  Kris Humphries  (a loaf of bread)</p>
<p>For               Correy Maggette (Consistent)<br />
                  Marco Beilinelli(new Italian hit) </p>
<p>New Line up </p>
<p>       Chris Bosh<br />
       Jermaine Oneal<br />
       Jose Calderon<br />
       Correy Maggette<br />
       Jason Kapono<br />
       Jamario moon<br />
       Marco Beilinelli<br />
       Joey Graham<br />
       Roko Leni Ukic<br />
       Willie Solomon<br />
       Hassan Adams<br />
       Nathan Jawai<br />
       Jake Voskuhl</p>
<p>And if Bosh wants to leave we want Kevin Durant next year&#8230; so what do you guys think???</p>
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		<title>By: yertu damkule</title>
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		<dc:creator>yertu damkule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 11:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FAQ - &#039;...if I were a GM of another team, I don’t think I would want any of the Raptor players in a trade...&#039;

completely agree.  i don&#039;t know how many hours i&#039;ve wasted (at work, of course...i&#039;d never waste my own time) on ESPN&#039;s trade machine, trying to see if there&#039;s a deal out there that works.  everytime i come up with something that seems to make sense, i look at the team that&#039;s getting whatever raptor players i&#039;ve included, and immediately nix it, as there&#039;s no way they&#039;d make the deal.  it&#039;s a symptom of the home-town bias towards &#039;our&#039; guys - we always overvalue &#039;our&#039; guys, and undervalue guys on other teams.  eg: most raps fans would think bosh would be worth, say, aldridge, lafrentz&#039;s expiring contract, and a pick (and most would probably think that the raps wouldn&#039;t be getting enough back) - but why on earth would pritchard make that deal?

jord - the G&amp;M article you&#039;re referencing wasn&#039;t written by grange, but by chris black http://caldeford.blogspot.com/2008/12/hollinger-and-why-jose-calderon-is.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FAQ &#8211; &#8216;&#8230;if I were a GM of another team, I don’t think I would want any of the Raptor players in a trade&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>completely agree.  i don&#8217;t know how many hours i&#8217;ve wasted (at work, of course&#8230;i&#8217;d never waste my own time) on ESPN&#8217;s trade machine, trying to see if there&#8217;s a deal out there that works.  everytime i come up with something that seems to make sense, i look at the team that&#8217;s getting whatever raptor players i&#8217;ve included, and immediately nix it, as there&#8217;s no way they&#8217;d make the deal.  it&#8217;s a symptom of the home-town bias towards &#8216;our&#8217; guys &#8211; we always overvalue &#8216;our&#8217; guys, and undervalue guys on other teams.  eg: most raps fans would think bosh would be worth, say, aldridge, lafrentz&#8217;s expiring contract, and a pick (and most would probably think that the raps wouldn&#8217;t be getting enough back) &#8211; but why on earth would pritchard make that deal?</p>
<p>jord &#8211; the G&amp;M article you&#8217;re referencing wasn&#8217;t written by grange, but by chris black <a href="http://caldeford.blogspot.com/2008/12/hollinger-and-why-jose-calderon-is.html" rel="nofollow">http://caldeford.blogspot.com/2008/12/hollinger-and-why-jose-calderon-is.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darien</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we can swing a deal for OKC&#039;s #1 pick. They&#039;re on the cusp (loss differentials are shrinking) and probably need some high quality veterans to mentor their up and coming all-stars. We could end up with Blake Griffin or some other up and coming power players.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we can swing a deal for OKC&#8217;s #1 pick. They&#8217;re on the cusp (loss differentials are shrinking) and probably need some high quality veterans to mentor their up and coming all-stars. We could end up with Blake Griffin or some other up and coming power players.</p>
<p>This post is crazy and I am sick and delirious.</p>
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		<title>By: gorapsgo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I really do not think that calderon is even close to Devon Harris at this point, top 10 player might be a bit premature, but if he keeps playing like he is, one has to consider him up near the level of Deron Williams, or Steve Nash.  Or at the very least Tony Parker.  Perhaps not Chris Paul as his play making for others is not quite at his level, but his scoring and quickenss for a point Guard are nearly unparelled.



Also among the points you mention is inserting the #1 pick into the O Neal trade, but perhaps they did that to avoid the luxury tax that would have come from signing the #q pick.  They might have needed to trade it similar to the way that Phoenix did.  This would not be BC&#039;s fault but rather MLSE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I really do not think that calderon is even close to Devon Harris at this point, top 10 player might be a bit premature, but if he keeps playing like he is, one has to consider him up near the level of Deron Williams, or Steve Nash.  Or at the very least Tony Parker.  Perhaps not Chris Paul as his play making for others is not quite at his level, but his scoring and quickenss for a point Guard are nearly unparelled.</p>
<p>Also among the points you mention is inserting the #1 pick into the O Neal trade, but perhaps they did that to avoid the luxury tax that would have come from signing the #q pick.  They might have needed to trade it similar to the way that Phoenix did.  This would not be BC&#8217;s fault but rather MLSE.</p>
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		<title>By: Jord</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally different topic.  Michael Grange writes that Devin Harris is one of the top 10 players in the league.  No way.  Let&#039;s make a list of 10 better or on-par players, trying in Alphabetical order starting from Atlanta (I&#039;m going to miss teams, but who cares cause my point will have been made).

Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Lebron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Chauncey Billups, Carmelo Anthony, etc.

And I&#039;m not even trying to make cases for defensive players or some fringe guys.  And I got up to D.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Does Harris deserve to be an all-star more than Calderon?  Probably (I haven&#039;t really compared the two much in different ways).  Still, Grange is making a stupid statement and it annoyed me enough to write this.  Ok, I&#039;ll stop sabotaging this column by phd &quot;i&#039;m so insecure that i need to make sure people know my credentials&quot; steve.  I&#039;m just kidding, man.  Nice article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally different topic.  Michael Grange writes that Devin Harris is one of the top 10 players in the league.  No way.  Let&#8217;s make a list of 10 better or on-par players, trying in Alphabetical order starting from Atlanta (I&#8217;m going to miss teams, but who cares cause my point will have been made).</p>
<p>Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Lebron James, Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Chauncey Billups, Carmelo Anthony, etc.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not even trying to make cases for defensive players or some fringe guys.  And I got up to D.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.</p>
<p>Does Harris deserve to be an all-star more than Calderon?  Probably (I haven&#8217;t really compared the two much in different ways).  Still, Grange is making a stupid statement and it annoyed me enough to write this.  Ok, I&#8217;ll stop sabotaging this column by phd &#8220;i&#8217;m so insecure that i need to make sure people know my credentials&#8221; steve.  I&#8217;m just kidding, man.  Nice article.</p>
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		<title>By: nunya</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 06:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ball-less gutless wonders.... it just has to be &quot;nice&quot;... 

The team reflects its leader... passive, weak, complacent....and that good old Toronto touch of unearned  arrogance...

... when losing isn&#039;t a big deal, you tend to lose a lot...

What will it take? Not making the playoffs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ball-less gutless wonders&#8230;. it just has to be &#8220;nice&#8221;&#8230; </p>
<p>The team reflects its leader&#8230; passive, weak, complacent&#8230;.and that good old Toronto touch of unearned  arrogance&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; when losing isn&#8217;t a big deal, you tend to lose a lot&#8230;</p>
<p>What will it take? Not making the playoffs?</p>
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