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		<title>By: Shane Kemps</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-12211</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Kemps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank god sam mitchell got fired hey. 
i think jay triano is gonna lead this team</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank god sam mitchell got fired hey.<br />
i think jay triano is gonna lead this team</p>
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		<title>By: joey</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8235</link>
		<dc:creator>joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FLUXLAND Identicon Icon FLUXLAND
Nov 10, 2008 1:14 pm &#124; Permalink

I mean, we beat the Bobcats last night. THE BOB-CATS! (barely) And people are popping bottles on their way to the Finals.



Thank You.


Bosh will go off for 50 points against Sacramento or Oklahoma. Detroit and Boston, ....where did he go?


Last year that 5 game west coast road trip he was injured supposedly. Sitting on the Bench with an armani suit or w.e.

Surprisingly he&#039;s healthy again when the trip is over and were back facing New York Knicks 2 nights later

From sources I heard he was healthy he just chose not to play because he knew we would still loose and wanted to save face I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FLUXLAND Identicon Icon FLUXLAND<br />
Nov 10, 2008 1:14 pm | Permalink</p>
<p>I mean, we beat the Bobcats last night. THE BOB-CATS! (barely) And people are popping bottles on their way to the Finals.</p>
<p>Thank You.</p>
<p>Bosh will go off for 50 points against Sacramento or Oklahoma. Detroit and Boston, &#8230;.where did he go?</p>
<p>Last year that 5 game west coast road trip he was injured supposedly. Sitting on the Bench with an armani suit or w.e.</p>
<p>Surprisingly he&#8217;s healthy again when the trip is over and were back facing New York Knicks 2 nights later</p>
<p>From sources I heard he was healthy he just chose not to play because he knew we would still loose and wanted to save face I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8231</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is kind of a tangent, but in relation to the original post: 

Why do you seem to blame BC for things like in-game entertainment, video intros and season ticket prices. 

Do you honestly think Bryan Colangelo has anything to do with the player introduction song selection? Or that it was his decision to fire MLSE employee&#039;s in charge of sales and marketing? Or that he books the half-time shows? 



...those are rhetorical questions by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is kind of a tangent, but in relation to the original post: </p>
<p>Why do you seem to blame BC for things like in-game entertainment, video intros and season ticket prices. </p>
<p>Do you honestly think Bryan Colangelo has anything to do with the player introduction song selection? Or that it was his decision to fire MLSE employee&#8217;s in charge of sales and marketing? Or that he books the half-time shows? </p>
<p>&#8230;those are rhetorical questions by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Raps Fan</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8219</link>
		<dc:creator>Raps Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they&quot;ll stay that way, that&#039;s what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they&#8221;ll stay that way, that&#8217;s what.</p>
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		<title>By: AltRaps</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8218</link>
		<dc:creator>AltRaps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fluxland:  &quot;And it took KG and Ray Allen the better part of the season to work on their “cohesiveness” last year right?&quot;

Exactly, sir. Throw in the fact that most deriders of all things Sam talk about the basic plays we run and it&#039;s not like any new additions are flipping through a 100-play document.

I still agree with the 20 game theory, but what happens if things are still disjointed at 40?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fluxland:  &#8220;And it took KG and Ray Allen the better part of the season to work on their “cohesiveness” last year right?&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly, sir. Throw in the fact that most deriders of all things Sam talk about the basic plays we run and it&#8217;s not like any new additions are flipping through a 100-play document.</p>
<p>I still agree with the 20 game theory, but what happens if things are still disjointed at 40?</p>
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		<title>By: yertu damkule</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8211</link>
		<dc:creator>yertu damkule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>glad to hear it.  i&#039;ll try to be civil, but whether you realize it or not, sometimes your responses are condascending.  i&#039;m not being uncivil when i point out that you didn&#039;t answer my question...if anything, i&#039;m merely trying to get a better grasp on your methadology.

you can claim the deal wasn&#039;t a coup, and considering what hump&#039;s produced relative to what hoffa produced, it may even be a wash.  but i fail to see how you can then contend that hump should be given a significant role in the rotation, something the guy he replaced certainly wasn&#039;t warranted to receive.  if you believe that, then doesn&#039;t it stand to reason that the deal was significantly better for the raps than the jazz?  i mean, was the few million in cap space the jazz cleared when hoffa came off the books really that valuable.

i&#039;m just trying to figure out how you can be so blah about a trade that rid the raps of hoffa &amp; netted the guy you think should be a significant player on this team.  

i agree, hump is not a star.  although i don&#039;t think of highly of him as you, i do think he&#039;s significantly more productive &amp; valuable than hoffa.  i wish that he could get on the floor more, and that when on the floor, he did the things that the team needs him to do in order for the team to be successful.  ditto for graham - i have no personal vendetta against either, if they make the team better, then so be it.  

i&#039;m sure i just don&#039;t get it.  please, feel free to not explain it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glad to hear it.  i&#8217;ll try to be civil, but whether you realize it or not, sometimes your responses are condascending.  i&#8217;m not being uncivil when i point out that you didn&#8217;t answer my question&#8230;if anything, i&#8217;m merely trying to get a better grasp on your methadology.</p>
<p>you can claim the deal wasn&#8217;t a coup, and considering what hump&#8217;s produced relative to what hoffa produced, it may even be a wash.  but i fail to see how you can then contend that hump should be given a significant role in the rotation, something the guy he replaced certainly wasn&#8217;t warranted to receive.  if you believe that, then doesn&#8217;t it stand to reason that the deal was significantly better for the raps than the jazz?  i mean, was the few million in cap space the jazz cleared when hoffa came off the books really that valuable.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m just trying to figure out how you can be so blah about a trade that rid the raps of hoffa &amp; netted the guy you think should be a significant player on this team.  </p>
<p>i agree, hump is not a star.  although i don&#8217;t think of highly of him as you, i do think he&#8217;s significantly more productive &amp; valuable than hoffa.  i wish that he could get on the floor more, and that when on the floor, he did the things that the team needs him to do in order for the team to be successful.  ditto for graham &#8211; i have no personal vendetta against either, if they make the team better, then so be it.  </p>
<p>i&#8217;m sure i just don&#8217;t get it.  please, feel free to not explain it again.</p>
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		<title>By: khandor</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8206</link>
		<dc:creator>khandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yertu damkule,

&#039;Irregardless&#039; is not a word in my vocabulary.

[FWIW ... when you act with civility, as you&#039;ve done here, you have my sincere respect]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yertu damkule,</p>
<p>&#8216;Irregardless&#8217; is not a word in my vocabulary.</p>
<p>[FWIW ... when you act with civility, as you've done here, you have my sincere respect]</p>
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		<title>By: khandor</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8204</link>
		<dc:creator>khandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raptoronto,

-----------------------------
re: &lt;i&gt;I&#039;ve miscalculated.&lt;/i&gt;
-----------------------------

Yes, indeed ... you have. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raptoronto,</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
re: <i>I&#8217;ve miscalculated.</i><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Yes, indeed &#8230; you have. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: khandor</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8203</link>
		<dc:creator>khandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yertu damkule,

When you ask me a civil question ... it makes it easier to respond in-kind. Likewise when you refrain from including either insults or sarcasm.

1. I respect your take on the game.
2. I don&#039;t respect when you lapse into non-civility and/or insults, nor when you attempt to position what I write on-line as being condescending.

There are many different interpretations of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ottawasun.com/News/ottawa150/2005/07/25/voiceoffire.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Voice of Fire&lt;/a&gt;.

Although each is different ...

It would also be fair and accurate to say that ...

Some are more sound than others ... despite what each viewer thinks, and not necessarily from a statistical basis, but ... depending on your point of view, and the width, depth and breadth of your knowledge about the specific subject involved.

Just because I know what I happen to like in &lt;b&gt;Art&lt;/b&gt; [CARNEY and RODNEY, both] ... does not mean that I have the skills and comprehensive background which others might possess, nor the eyes, the ears, the hands, etc., required to assess its authentic &#039;value&#039; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carleton.ca/jmc/cnews/22101999/c1c.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;accurately&lt;/a&gt;.

=================

* Hump is not a great player.
* Neither was Kurt Rambis.
* Getting Hump for Hoffa was not a steal for the Raptors.
* Rambis was used as a starter for some very good Lakers teams.
* Hump, too, could/should be used as a starter by the Raptors, beside CB4.
* If the Raptors had held onto Hoffa, until last season, could they have simply cut him this past off-season and used that money instead to add a player they drafted at the No. 17 [overall] spot, e.g. CDR or Roy Hibbert or Joey Dorsey, etc. [admitting that this is hindsight speculation]?
* Getting a serviceable player Hump in return for Hoffa ... who was serviceable, in his own way, given the price-tag that was associated with him, as a former Lottery Pick ... was not a coup; it was a nice fair exchange of assets.

What would have been an example of a coup, IMO?

Getting Kendrick Perkins.

- Rodney Carney :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yertu damkule,</p>
<p>When you ask me a civil question &#8230; it makes it easier to respond in-kind. Likewise when you refrain from including either insults or sarcasm.</p>
<p>1. I respect your take on the game.<br />
2. I don&#8217;t respect when you lapse into non-civility and/or insults, nor when you attempt to position what I write on-line as being condescending.</p>
<p>There are many different interpretations of <a href="http://www.ottawasun.com/News/ottawa150/2005/07/25/voiceoffire.jpg" rel="nofollow">Voice of Fire</a>.</p>
<p>Although each is different &#8230;</p>
<p>It would also be fair and accurate to say that &#8230;</p>
<p>Some are more sound than others &#8230; despite what each viewer thinks, and not necessarily from a statistical basis, but &#8230; depending on your point of view, and the width, depth and breadth of your knowledge about the specific subject involved.</p>
<p>Just because I know what I happen to like in <b>Art</b> [CARNEY and RODNEY, both] &#8230; does not mean that I have the skills and comprehensive background which others might possess, nor the eyes, the ears, the hands, etc., required to assess its authentic &#8216;value&#8217; <a href="http://www.carleton.ca/jmc/cnews/22101999/c1c.htm" rel="nofollow">accurately</a>.</p>
<p>=================</p>
<p>* Hump is not a great player.<br />
* Neither was Kurt Rambis.<br />
* Getting Hump for Hoffa was not a steal for the Raptors.<br />
* Rambis was used as a starter for some very good Lakers teams.<br />
* Hump, too, could/should be used as a starter by the Raptors, beside CB4.<br />
* If the Raptors had held onto Hoffa, until last season, could they have simply cut him this past off-season and used that money instead to add a player they drafted at the No. 17 [overall] spot, e.g. CDR or Roy Hibbert or Joey Dorsey, etc. [admitting that this is hindsight speculation]?<br />
* Getting a serviceable player Hump in return for Hoffa &#8230; who was serviceable, in his own way, given the price-tag that was associated with him, as a former Lottery Pick &#8230; was not a coup; it was a nice fair exchange of assets.</p>
<p>What would have been an example of a coup, IMO?</p>
<p>Getting Kendrick Perkins.</p>
<p>- Rodney Carney :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Raptoronto</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8197</link>
		<dc:creator>Raptoronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khandor, I&#039;ve miscalulated.  You are actually the second coming of a very &quot;significant&quot; man in our history...his name is Michel de Nostradamus.  You may have heard of him but here is a segment of his wiki entry (pure gold for you I&#039;m sure) that truly captures your blog-persona:

&quot;Most academic sources maintain that the associations made between world events and Nostradamus&#039;s quatrains are largely the result of misinterpretations or mistranslations (sometimes deliberate) or else are so tenuous as to render them useless as evidence of any genuine predictive power. Moreover, none of the sources listed offers any evidence that anyone has ever interpreted any of Nostradamus&#039;s quatrains specifically enough to allow a clear identification of any event in advance.&quot;

...did you write that wiki entry?  No seriously, did you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khandor, I&#8217;ve miscalulated.  You are actually the second coming of a very &#8220;significant&#8221; man in our history&#8230;his name is Michel de Nostradamus.  You may have heard of him but here is a segment of his wiki entry (pure gold for you I&#8217;m sure) that truly captures your blog-persona:</p>
<p>&#8220;Most academic sources maintain that the associations made between world events and Nostradamus&#8217;s quatrains are largely the result of misinterpretations or mistranslations (sometimes deliberate) or else are so tenuous as to render them useless as evidence of any genuine predictive power. Moreover, none of the sources listed offers any evidence that anyone has ever interpreted any of Nostradamus&#8217;s quatrains specifically enough to allow a clear identification of any event in advance.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;did you write that wiki entry?  No seriously, did you?</p>
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		<title>By: yertu damkule</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8195</link>
		<dc:creator>yertu damkule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at least you didn&#039;t use irregardless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at least you didn&#8217;t use irregardless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: yertu damkule</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8194</link>
		<dc:creator>yertu damkule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>khan - ignorant, obtuse, whatever.  i thought i had a legit question, the answer to which would help me understand better understand your position with respect to both hump &amp; BC, and while you provided a detailed &#039;answer,&#039; i&#039;m not sure you really answered anything.  in one breath, you&#039;re essentially stating that hoffa stunk, and the guy for whom he was traded has enough bball value that he should start &amp; be a serious offensive option on a playoff-calibre team...all while stating that the trade that netted him wasn&#039;t a steal, which apparently validates your point that BC&#039;s been average over the last few years.  i can live with one, but not both, viewpoints, and while that inability may be myopic to you, it isn&#039;t to me.

hoffa was dead weight.  personally, i&#039;m not so sure hump is any better.  i know we disagree, and there are many who feel he could be something special, a valuable rebounder, defender, finisher, etc.  i may not agree, but i&#039;ll accept that position.  what i simply don&#039;t understand is how, if you feel that highly about hump, you feel the trade that netted him was relatively unimpressive.  that BC was able to get anything for hoffa would seem a minor miracle.  i guess it&#039;s all about perspective...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>khan &#8211; ignorant, obtuse, whatever.  i thought i had a legit question, the answer to which would help me understand better understand your position with respect to both hump &amp; BC, and while you provided a detailed &#8216;answer,&#8217; i&#8217;m not sure you really answered anything.  in one breath, you&#8217;re essentially stating that hoffa stunk, and the guy for whom he was traded has enough bball value that he should start &amp; be a serious offensive option on a playoff-calibre team&#8230;all while stating that the trade that netted him wasn&#8217;t a steal, which apparently validates your point that BC&#8217;s been average over the last few years.  i can live with one, but not both, viewpoints, and while that inability may be myopic to you, it isn&#8217;t to me.</p>
<p>hoffa was dead weight.  personally, i&#8217;m not so sure hump is any better.  i know we disagree, and there are many who feel he could be something special, a valuable rebounder, defender, finisher, etc.  i may not agree, but i&#8217;ll accept that position.  what i simply don&#8217;t understand is how, if you feel that highly about hump, you feel the trade that netted him was relatively unimpressive.  that BC was able to get anything for hoffa would seem a minor miracle.  i guess it&#8217;s all about perspective&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raptoronto</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8193</link>
		<dc:creator>Raptoronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comparison, Flux.  Three veteran future hall of famers on the same team versus the Raps situation, OK, thanks for sharing.  Tells me all I need to know about your expectations.

...and when and where did I state the Raps were the &quot;greatest NBA team of all-time&quot;?  The point was that we are far better off than we were 3 years ago and certainly building up to a top ten organization in the NBA.       

When you start pulling comments completely out of context to demean other posters that brings you down to Khandors level aka Nostro(the most prolific moronic poster on Rap blogs...and I&#039;ve only been reading RR posts for the past two weeks to realize it!).  

RR is a great site but frankly some commenter’s completely kill the experience (actually Khandor alone does that and I hate to admit that I&#039;ve likely given in to his likely intentions; leave the RR comments section to him and his bethren, for which I will gladly give in).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comparison, Flux.  Three veteran future hall of famers on the same team versus the Raps situation, OK, thanks for sharing.  Tells me all I need to know about your expectations.</p>
<p>&#8230;and when and where did I state the Raps were the &#8220;greatest NBA team of all-time&#8221;?  The point was that we are far better off than we were 3 years ago and certainly building up to a top ten organization in the NBA.       </p>
<p>When you start pulling comments completely out of context to demean other posters that brings you down to Khandors level aka Nostro(the most prolific moronic poster on Rap blogs&#8230;and I&#8217;ve only been reading RR posts for the past two weeks to realize it!).  </p>
<p>RR is a great site but frankly some commenter’s completely kill the experience (actually Khandor alone does that and I hate to admit that I&#8217;ve likely given in to his likely intentions; leave the RR comments section to him and his bethren, for which I will gladly give in).</p>
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		<title>By: FLUXLAND</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8189</link>
		<dc:creator>FLUXLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure looks greener from this side of the fence.  
----
And it took KG and Ray Allen the better part of the season to work on their &quot;cohesiveness&quot; last year right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure looks greener from this side of the fence.<br />
&#8212;-<br />
And it took KG and Ray Allen the better part of the season to work on their &#8220;cohesiveness&#8221; last year right?</p>
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		<title>By: Raptoronto</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8187</link>
		<dc:creator>Raptoronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yertu - I really felt the team would struggle with cohesiveness on both ends of the floor for the first 20 games or more (while incorporating an inexperienced back-up point guard (or two) and a rusty starting center.  We really don&#039;t know what we have in front of us at this point; it&#039;s only 6 games into the season and we&#039;re struggling at 4-2!  However, I do expect this team to have a solid second half of the season so maybe it&#039;s just our immediate expectations that differ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yertu &#8211; I really felt the team would struggle with cohesiveness on both ends of the floor for the first 20 games or more (while incorporating an inexperienced back-up point guard (or two) and a rusty starting center.  We really don&#8217;t know what we have in front of us at this point; it&#8217;s only 6 games into the season and we&#8217;re struggling at 4-2!  However, I do expect this team to have a solid second half of the season so maybe it&#8217;s just our immediate expectations that differ.</p>
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		<title>By: Jord</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8186</link>
		<dc:creator>Jord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The grass is always greener with another team, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The grass is always greener with another team, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: FLUXLAND</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8184</link>
		<dc:creator>FLUXLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, we beat the Bobcats last night. THE BOB-CATS! (barely) And people are popping bottles on their way to the Finals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, we beat the Bobcats last night. THE BOB-CATS! (barely) And people are popping bottles on their way to the Finals.</p>
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		<title>By: khandor</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8182</link>
		<dc:creator>khandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said before ...

I&#039;m a fan of intelligence, regardless the source is.

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re: &lt;i&gt;is it not reasonable to assume that the raps shouldn’t be further along? i mean, on paper, they seem impressive, but in reality, they still have the same trouble with the better teams they did two years ago, their weaknesses are still weaknesses, and their outlook for end-of-season success has only marginally improved. 

maybe we get sucked in by teams that make quick turnarounds and immediately challenge for a title (or win one) in a short period of time (think miami &amp; cleve.), and we want a little taste of that…or at least the comfort that comes with knowing that the raps can compete with anyone, on any given day…as opposed to barely scraping out a road win against an inferior opponent after being outplayed for most of the game, and needing their one true superstar to have a herculian effort (against a diminished frontcourt) to pull out said victory. when games like yesterday’s become easy wins, instead of struggles, then maybe we’ll feel like the team’s on the right track.&lt;/i&gt;
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In my book, those are three [3] highly intelligent sentences. : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said before &#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a fan of intelligence, regardless the source is.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
re: <i>is it not reasonable to assume that the raps shouldn’t be further along? i mean, on paper, they seem impressive, but in reality, they still have the same trouble with the better teams they did two years ago, their weaknesses are still weaknesses, and their outlook for end-of-season success has only marginally improved. </p>
<p>maybe we get sucked in by teams that make quick turnarounds and immediately challenge for a title (or win one) in a short period of time (think miami &amp; cleve.), and we want a little taste of that…or at least the comfort that comes with knowing that the raps can compete with anyone, on any given day…as opposed to barely scraping out a road win against an inferior opponent after being outplayed for most of the game, and needing their one true superstar to have a herculian effort (against a diminished frontcourt) to pull out said victory. when games like yesterday’s become easy wins, instead of struggles, then maybe we’ll feel like the team’s on the right track.</i><br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>In my book, those are three [3] highly intelligent sentences. : )</p>
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		<title>By: FLUXLAND</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8181</link>
		<dc:creator>FLUXLAND</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khandor, I was considering those.. no doubt. I figured the ones I listed, made for a better argument. Guess I was wrong. This cat is in the &quot;Raptors are the greatest team in the history of the NBA&quot; bunch. Gimme a break! Again, all the things I listed in yesterdays post..talent evaluation, other team evaluation, etc. come into play.  Not to mention, dude says yes to half the teams on my list, and is very borderline on the other half, then proceeds to say I made his point... can I really make an argument with those other teams? Something tells me unless if I put a list with every team having Zeke, Jordan, Rodman, Laimbeer and Russell on it, he still would have said: I&#039;ll take the Raps.

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An optimist? Yeah you are. Realistic? I don&#039;t think so. But hey who knows? I may be wrong and the win it all the next 10 years straight. I&#039;m wrong about 10 times a day, on average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khandor, I was considering those.. no doubt. I figured the ones I listed, made for a better argument. Guess I was wrong. This cat is in the &#8220;Raptors are the greatest team in the history of the NBA&#8221; bunch. Gimme a break! Again, all the things I listed in yesterdays post..talent evaluation, other team evaluation, etc. come into play.  Not to mention, dude says yes to half the teams on my list, and is very borderline on the other half, then proceeds to say I made his point&#8230; can I really make an argument with those other teams? Something tells me unless if I put a list with every team having Zeke, Jordan, Rodman, Laimbeer and Russell on it, he still would have said: I&#8217;ll take the Raps.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>An optimist? Yeah you are. Realistic? I don&#8217;t think so. But hey who knows? I may be wrong and the win it all the next 10 years straight. I&#8217;m wrong about 10 times a day, on average.</p>
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		<title>By: khandor</title>
		<link>http://raptorsrepublic.com/2008/11/09/supporter-or-fan/#comment-8180</link>
		<dc:creator>khandor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* Hump is a better player than Hoffa.
* Hoffa had value as a high draft pick with an &#039;expiring&#039; contract.
* Hump is a solid small Big, in the NBA. Hump  is not an all-star.
* The best teams in the NBA do not necessarily &#039;start&#039; their 5 &#039;best&#039; players. 
* There is considerable &#039;value&#039; in having a bump on a log, who can carry &amp; use his 5 fouls in a NBA game, is 6-9 &amp; 250+, but is also obedient and a darn good teammate while sitting on the bench [e.g. Chuck Nevitt : -)].
* There is considerable &#039;value&#039; in using a small, energetic Big like Hump, in the starting line-up for a high-calibre NBA team, like the Showtime Lakers used Kurt Rambis.
* There is considerable &#039;value&#039; in having a non-myopic brain ... that can see things from different vantage points, at once, and is neither obtuse, nor ignorant.

: )

Here&#039;s a pic for you. I&#039;ve been saving it for a few days now ...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ottawasun.com/News/ottawa150/2005/07/25/voiceoffire.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Voice of Fire&lt;/a&gt;

Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Hump is a better player than Hoffa.<br />
* Hoffa had value as a high draft pick with an &#8216;expiring&#8217; contract.<br />
* Hump is a solid small Big, in the NBA. Hump  is not an all-star.<br />
* The best teams in the NBA do not necessarily &#8217;start&#8217; their 5 &#8216;best&#8217; players.<br />
* There is considerable &#8216;value&#8217; in having a bump on a log, who can carry &amp; use his 5 fouls in a NBA game, is 6-9 &amp; 250+, but is also obedient and a darn good teammate while sitting on the bench [e.g. Chuck Nevitt : -)].<br />
* There is considerable &#8216;value&#8217; in using a small, energetic Big like Hump, in the starting line-up for a high-calibre NBA team, like the Showtime Lakers used Kurt Rambis.<br />
* There is considerable &#8216;value&#8217; in having a non-myopic brain &#8230; that can see things from different vantage points, at once, and is neither obtuse, nor ignorant.</p>
<p>: )</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a pic for you. I&#8217;ve been saving it for a few days now &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ottawasun.com/News/ottawa150/2005/07/25/voiceoffire.jpg" rel="nofollow">Voice of Fire</a></p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
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