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Western Conference basketball makes me puke. I much prefer watching low-scoring, ugly, gut-it-out basketball like the type played by the Knicks and Heat of the mid-90’s or the Bad Boy Piston teams. Tonight could be a classic Eastern Conference matchup with the physicality of O’Neal and Bosh going up against the hardline Pistons defense led by Rasheed Wallace. Allen Iverson will likely make his Pistons debut at the ACC tonight and to preview the game I spoke with Vince Ellis who is a Pistons beat writer for the Detroit Free Press. Some of the talking points up for discussion were how the big trade went down, the Pistons core pieces, how they matchup against the Raptors, ex-Raptor Michael Curry’s coaching techniques, his impact on the team, getting a Detroit perspective on the Raptors off-season changes and much more. You can listen to the interview by clicking here or you can simply press the play button (lower quality on some computers). It was a little surprising to hear Ellis refer to the trade as a ’step backwards’ for the Pistons on the court. You can check out his latest work where he talks about Curry’s take on Iverson fitting in.
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The game marks the first time Sam Mitchell and Michael Curry have gone head-to-head. They’ve known each other from their high-school days and have been former negotiators for the NBA Players Association. Vince Ellis tells us a lot more about Michael Curry as a coach and you’ll notice that he’s a lot like Mitchell in many ways including his no-nonsense attitude towards everything. One of the differences is that the Detroit media loves Curry. Maybe it’s the water in Detroit that makes them appreciates a no-BS coach even though he could be a mean SOB at times. That’s a sharp contrast with how Mitchell is perceived in Toronto for having a similar act. Either way, Curry’s practice drills are impressive and one of the drills Curry runs reminded me of Sam Mitchell’s FT drill with Jermaine O’Neal.
The contrast in depth here is astounding. The Raptors have been using a 7-man rotation while in Detroit’s last game against Charlotte all 12 players got minutes and 10 of those played at least 17 minutes. The Raptors are averaging -12 in the rebounding department while Detroit’s 25 points better at +13. If we get killed on the boards again almost everything else would need to go perfect for us to win, so it follows that we can’t afford to get killed on the boards. Rebounding and fourth quarter team offense execution will decide this game. Detroit’s a team that’s made a living out of getting a stop when they’ve needed a stop and if it comes down to the last two minutes in a close game, they’ll always be favored.
Allen Iverson’s going to be playing so you might think that a victory here is a statement game but its not. He’s just joined the team and there’s no way they’re going to get him acclimated with Detroit’s structured team concept in one day and if anything, this is a game the Raptors are supposed to win. That’s not stopping Jermaine O’Neal from seeing this as a big statement game:
“I won’t lie to you and say it’s just another game. I’m very excited. Obviously, both teams understand that only one can walk out of the gym tomorrow (undefeated). It’s a true test of how we line up against one of the better teams in the NBA. I’m pretty pumped about the opportunity. You want to beat a team like that. They’re the Pistons and I obviously have a lot of familiarity with that team, with the type of the battles that we’ve had.”
Although Iverson’s impact on the game could be minimal because of his newness to the team, history says that he likes to kill us. Iverson’s averaging 30.4 points in 36 career games against us and has caused every single point guard we’ve ever had – from Alvin to Jose – nightmares. History also says that the Pistons went 3-1 against us last season with our only win coming 89-82 at home in a late meaningless game. The Pistons do nothing short of textbook execution whenever we play them, it’s with surgical precision that they beat us. Shut down our bigs, post-up our PGs, kill us on screens, pressure our guards, contest every shot, it’s a joy to watch if you’re a Pistons fan. Hopefully all that changes tonight.

Bryan Colangelo talked to the Fan 590 yesterday and he’s echoing very similar thoughts about signing Chris Bosh as were posted in yesterday’s comments section. Worth a listen to if you want to get his take on the big trade, the contract situation with Chris Bosh and how we can offer him more than any other team. The most important thing we can offer him? A longer contract.
The poll about expectations ended today and I’m surprised more people didn’t pick “2nd round win” as a measure of success. The clear winner was “1st round win and a good fight in the second round” which is something that I was hoping from the team last year. Some of you even felt that making the playoffs is good enough for this team. I hope you were being sarcastic.
Scott Foster’s talking about his relationship with Tim Donaghy. He admits that he slept with him but insists that the kid is not his son. I like Foster, we were 3-1 when he reffed games last year and 1-0 this year.
Live Blogging starts at 7PM EST and make sure to tune in tomorrow morning (or maybe even late, late tonight) when we’ll play our interview with Matt Devlin who will give us a nice post-game wrap from the ACC. Let’s go you Raps!!!

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I’ll tell you why Toronto media doesn’t get along great with Sam Mitchell. It’s because they’re too sensitive and know too little about basketball to have a conversation with Sam. Most of them are doing the work they do as if going to a regular 9-5 job. There’s no deep knowledge of the game in their minds are they’re not passionate fans like most other team reporters.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Mitchell’s not the brightest of basketball minds but I can see why he gets agitated when talking to these people.
Arse, nice interview. I’m with Ellis, I wasn’t surprised that Detroit made a move. It’s the timing that was weird. BTW, that guy was so on a cell in his car.
Endo, I agree and would also throw in that the majority of the writers when Sam first started here were part time basketball reporters, being pulled off other assignments. I’m sure that hit Sam right off the bat.
Arse, the physicality of Jermaine O’Neal? Athleticism since he can jump, maybe, but I’m not sure the p-word has ever been attached to JO without a snicker, but it certainly shouldn’t be when referencing his short Toronto career.
LOL at “whenever Michael Curry took his ugly jump shot”…
I feel depressed every time we play Detroit because they’ve always been 20x better than us. Rasheed troubles Bosh with his length and always gets his shot against him. This will be tough with or without AI but if he goes off for 40 we’ll have a chance because that means Wallace and Hamilton won’t be getting theirs and their the ones that kill us.
How is the “Answer” going to fit into the Pistons offense? He is a big time scorer, 27.7ppg career in 42mpg, esp vs Rap’s, but also 22.6FGA per game.
Billups was 17ppg with 11.2FGA, and a big 3pt shooter.
AI is a career 31% 3FG shooter. Who’s shots is AI going to take? How will he fit with Rip Hamilton who is not happy about his best friend being traded, and Stuckey? Is he going to play SG, which he is or PG, which he would definately be a score first type.
According to Smith as of this AM Billups was not in Denver, and must have his physical there before AI can play. Billups is not expected to play untill Friday.
Read a cryptic statement on Hoopshype that AI will start playing in Detroit on Friday … so is he not going to play tonight in Toronto?!
If AI doesn’t play tonight, the game will be a lot more even between the teams. Dare we hope for a win against the Pistons?
I think the media grunts like Smitch. I think they understand his personality and his sarcastic sense of humour. And, in turn, Smith understands the the job of the media grunts. Essentially, the grunts know that Smith is a straight-talker, and they appriciate that side of his personality.
Only when you watch enough long-version daily media interviews with Smitch on RapsTV, will you understand that Smitch and the grunts have a positive, respectful relationship.
Coach Mitchell is not a boring interview and frequently provides them with goods quote, along with entertaining daily conversations).
‘How is the “Answer” going to fit into the Pistons offense?’
very well. yeah, he’s a scoring PG, but over the last five years, he’s put up similar distribution #s to billups. he’s also not nearly as inefficient as you seem to suggest (nor is billups as efficient – their true shooting %’s are quite similar, and billups hasn’t shot any better than AI over the last few years, he just shoots a lot less). the knock on AI is that he dominates the ball…which, when you think about it, is perfect for the pistons. who, on the pistons, is a go-to scorer? they’re all very good complimentary scorers (i.e. they are each better when the D is focusing on someone else, and can take open jumpers / drives when the rotations are slow/late/nonexistant), and when all were playing at a high level with a high intensity, they jelled incredibly well. over the last couple years, the talent was still there, but the intensity had diminished somewhat from their championship year (though it was still higher than most)…not having ‘that guy’ who can take over games may have hurt them. now, i’m not suggesting that for the trade to work for the pistons, AI needs to dominate the ball – far from it, he’s going to have his minutes reduced, and will have to become more of a distributor. but with excellent complimentary scorers, either those guys (sheed, wallace, prince) are going to be getting easier looks, or he will. as a defense, who do you focus on among those four? that’s not even taking into consideration what maxiel, amir & stuckey can bring to the table (or mcdyess, when/if he returns).
no, i’m thinking this trade will work out for the pistons. not sure whether it makes them better than NO, boston, LA, but it keeps them in the mix of those teams.
Interesting Individual Match-ups Tonight:
JO vs. Wallace = Battle of the big-boyz
Jose & AP vs. Stucky & Iverson = Battle of the starting back-court duos
Moon vs. Prince = Battle of the skinny starting SF
Correction:
Jose/AP vs. AI/Hamilton
Jose is gonna be in for a tough test!
Latest report I’ve seen on Iverson is that the team is in limbo regarding his debut. They want to play him tonight but paperwork is being held up by medical paperwork concerning Cheikh Samb … so it’s being delayed for now. They don’t know yet if Iverson can play tonight.
Billups on the other hand will play on Friday. He was in Charlotte when traded and can’t make it out to GSW in time for the game. Billups is traveling to Denver first, and can’t make it although the way across country by game time. He’ll practice tomorrow and meet the media before they play Dallas on Friday.
Hopefully Iverson will play tonight. I’m giddy about seeing this new Pistons team.
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Those poll results are surprising to me.
43% of people think a second round win is playoff success. That’s a large chunk of people who don’t feel a first round victory isn’t good enough.
Another 46% of people feel the team should be in a tight battle in the second round. That’s 89% of people who expect a good showing in the second round.
Interesting results. Good poll.
YES WE CAN!! YES WE CAN!!
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Nope, Iverson will not play tonight. George Karl will have his new players wait until tomorrow to take their physicals. Detroit are short handed tonight.
Stuckey will likely get Iverson’s minutes. Afflalo and Bynum receiving Stuckey’s minutes.
don’t overlook stuckey…there’s a reason they were willing to trade chauncey that goes beyond getting AI back, and it’s ’cause stuckey has come along much quicker than they initially thought he would. he’s on the cusp of being a very, very good PG, and will shortly take his place among the top of the pile in the east.
The Raps are winning this one. Period. AI isnt going to play and the steller play will continue. The only question is if we get a sufficient lead (+10) to be able to play Ukic, Hump, Bargs, Joey(who will get plenty of chances to get minutes matched up against Maxiell and Amir Johnson – similar tweeners) more than minimal minutes since the lack of comfortable leads sofar have made us push the starters so much. Book it.
GET DRUNK, GET HIGH
I’M A RAPS FAN TILL I DIE!!
edgar – care to put your $ where your mouth is?
Sorry Edgar, Maxiell and Amir Johnson aren’t similar in any way to Joey and Bargs. Both Pistons have steadily improved and contributed since they entered the league, and none of those players (with the exception of Humph, perhaps) can be placed in the same category as them at this moment.
Detroit’s bench is good. Very good.
Comments like Edgar’s show why Toronto fans are so deluded.
Detroit is a seriously deep team, Maxiell and Stuckey are huge (Joey doesn’t belong in the NBA) and the Raptors will be very lucky to win this.
It would probably be easier if Iverson DID play because they would be discombobulated…
The Raptors starters are going to have to play the entire game and even then, they can be easily over-powered and out rebounded.
Let’s hope they really click..it would be a great win, but I ain’t holding my breath.
In terms of contenders, Detroit are the least reliant team on their best player(s). They’re very well balanced and deep. They rely on their role players a lot more than most squads do.
Even without Iverson it should be a very tough game.
Good chance for a prolonged look at Stuckey and whatever improvements he made this offseason.
We’ve looked allright as well. Hometown crowd, well rested, Bargnani averages 19 points @ home. Raps win easily – Detroit are still in shock.
The degree of delusion is staggering…what do you dolts actually see when you watch a basketball game???
Tinman and Edgar are the sort of dummies that probably thought Swirsky’s “ask the expert” segments were very informative….
Nunya. This is a basketball website. Lighten up you dolt.
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